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Modern Plantation for Poles in Ireland


SeanBM 35 | 5,808  
22 Jun 2009 /  #211
care to refute any of the facts I brought to this forum

Click here

I will leave

Don't leave, you even have ShelleyS fighting you.
I want to see more ha ha ha.
OP RevokeNice 15 | 1,859  
22 Jun 2009 /  #212
Ireland32

Then why the poor perfomance in the 2007 General elections? Why the poor performance in the locals two weeks ago? Why did they lose their MEP seat? Why are they polling at 7% while all the other parties are eating into Fianna Fails percentage. Why is the party in decline.

I will tell you why as their core voters, the working class, have been sold out by Sinn Fein by their support of 3rd world and eastern european immigration.

Was it not Adams who said "They are Irish if they are here for four months or four hundred years!"

Sinn Fein is dead in the south.

SeanBM

I have explained this to you now three times. Is it that hard to understand. Here is the article,
archives.tcm.ie/businesspost/2008/06/22/story33891.asp

Once the ballot boxes were opened, the issue of migrant workers became 'the elephant in the room' that few politicians had wished to confront before the referendum.

''It was definitely there, but nobody really wanted to talk about it," conceded Fine Gael deputy Leo Varadkar. ''A lot of left-wing campaigns stirred the immigration pot, some deliberately and some unwittingly," he said

rgemonitor.com/euro-monitor/252779/why_did_ireland_vote_no_to_the_lisbon_treaty

It is also plausible that part of the No vote relates to a lack of comfort with the very high levels of immigration from the new members states over the last five years. While the immigration flows were broadly welcomed during the boom years, the current slowdown in the Irish economy means that there is greater competition for jobs and more pressure on wage rates in construction and services sectors, which may have prompted an anti-Europe vote in some quarters.
Ireland32 2 | 172  
22 Jun 2009 /  #213
Sinn Fein is dead in the south.

I will tell that to my local sinn fein councillor who was elected to the local council as a first time candidate and the first sinn fein councillor to be elected to the town council since the 1950's. Sounds like we are in decline alright.

We are the only 32 county party in Ireland, building the party in the south of the island will take time.....it was not so long ago we were a minoirty party in the north....things change.
SeanBM 35 | 5,808  
22 Jun 2009 /  #214
As Leo Varadkar(TD) of Fine Gael said, "its all about immigration, it is the elephant in the room". Even though the treaty itself has absolutely nothing to do with immigration, there is massive anger over the issue at present.

Leo Varadkar claimed "it was all about immigration, it was the elephant in the room".

I know the treay had nothing to do with immigration, but people voted against it as a protest against immigration.

Before we voted on Nice2 we where told it was xenophobic to think we would get many people immigrating here from eastern europe and Ireland was littered with poster campaigns depicting poor eastern european children as propaganda for a yes vote.

OP RevokeNice 15 | 1,859  
22 Jun 2009 /  #215
Ireland32

How many seats did you win? What was the net gain? We both know the answer to that. Sinn Fein lost more seats than they gained.
Ironside 50 | 10,935  
22 Jun 2009 /  #216
It is a poxy internet forum of Poles and Irish traitors. Unite you? And what will you achieve?

Hey I told you, go and win an election, so far your only achievement is talk, its cheap!
But now I see clearly that your brain must be affected by pox you poor sod!
You should know that when you abuse hospitality of the host, you are not longer welcome -clear out or apologize!
As for your "facts" :
Nobody know if overall effects of Polish immigration to Ireland is generally beneficial or not as there is no serious studies of the subject.
You say it isn't and I say it is - but there no evidence to back any of presented views - at last scientific evidence.
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163  
22 Jun 2009 /  #217
So they should be repatriated.

LOL ! You can only dream about It.
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
22 Jun 2009 /  #218
People believe in symbolic steps. Most couldn't tell you 5% of the Treaty's content so they do things like that. It needs to be passed so Ireland can extract great concessions and has already received a separate protocol. At last, the overpaid Irish Taioseach is beginning to earn his bread rather than just draw his salary.
OP RevokeNice 15 | 1,859  
22 Jun 2009 /  #219
Ironside

Show me how they are a net benefit on the Irish economy. My facts are all from reliable sources.
Ireland32 2 | 172  
22 Jun 2009 /  #220
RevokeNice

Please tell me you are not aligned to any political party. There cannot be more of you out there. Maybe its the Lord Loony Party.

Im off to baton down the hatches, crawl into my safe room and wait for this planty thingy to hit town.....hope it doesnt take too long though as Im running out of L&M fags and polish vodka.

Oiche mhaith mo chara. slan go foil.
OP RevokeNice 15 | 1,859  
22 Jun 2009 /  #221
Seanus

By going against the wishes of the Irish people? Thats not earning his bread, that is selling out the country. There is a word for it. ;)

Ireland32

Dream of that United Ireland, mo chara. If you Shinners get your way we will be a minority in our own country. Whats the point of a United country when the majority of people residing it will be foreigners?
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163  
22 Jun 2009 /  #222
That leaves us with 338,060 Poles issued with PPS numbers in Ireland.

You really believe that all these people are in Ireland right now ?
SeanBM 35 | 5,808  
22 Jun 2009 /  #223
He'd believe anything, sure he doesn't have a clue what he is on about.
irishdeano 5 | 304  
22 Jun 2009 /  #224
Life is short, Why so much hate? Live your life, enjoy your life. Revoke what age are you? honestly?
SeanBM 35 | 5,808  
22 Jun 2009 /  #225
what age are you? honestly?

That may be a two part question.
Mentally?
Or physically?

:)
Ireland32 2 | 172  
22 Jun 2009 /  #226
Dream of that United Ireland, mo chara

I dont dream. I get off my ass and out on the street and I work for a United Ireland. I work at the heart of the community, banging on doors and making things happen. I dont talk about change, I instigate it.
irishdeano 5 | 304  
22 Jun 2009 /  #227
You also understand revoke and im sure ireland32 will back me up here, that the poles would vote for a united ireland!
OP RevokeNice 15 | 1,859  
22 Jun 2009 /  #228
irishdeano

Poles and other foreigners will have no say in the matter. Only Irish citizens can vote in referendums.
Ireland32 2 | 172  
22 Jun 2009 /  #229
Poles and other foreigners will have no say in the matter

They will if they apply for citizenship :-)
OP RevokeNice 15 | 1,859  
22 Jun 2009 /  #230
Grzegorz_
I would say there is easily 200,000 Poles here. 50,000 of which are on the dole.
ShelleyS 14 | 2,893  
22 Jun 2009 /  #231
My quarrell is with mass immigration from Eastern Europe

I understand that, but its a bit case of the pot calling kettle black when its an Irishman talking about immigration :0)

Tell you what, when you give is Northern Ireland back we can return the people you planted here as a swap for the Irish over in the UK, many of whom who emigrated there when Ireland was still part of the UK. Only fair. You cannot colonise half the world and complain when the natives decide to move to the UK.

You can have NI back, nothing would make me happier to see Ireland unified, does that mean I can go back since my name is Irish? ;0) As for colonies, they all wanted independence and us out, so why should they have a right to come to the UK, we havent had anything to do with most of them for decades and certainly not in my life time.

Only Irish citizens can vote in referendums.

Would that be all those africans and asians that now have Irish citizenship?
irishdeano 5 | 304  
22 Jun 2009 /  #232
Only Irish citizens can vote in referendums

If they have an address in ireland they are able to vote the same as everyone else
Kapusta 2 | 66  
22 Jun 2009 /  #233
My quarrell is with mass immigration from Eastern Europe.

Yes, WE GET THE MESSAGE. Believe it or not we do understand what you are saying, why you're saying it and what you want the outcome to be. It doesn't mean with agree or disagree with you on any part of it. Although, you have said your bit a thousand times now. Perhaps it's time you took things up with your local MEP, MP, whatever. You can repeat yourself a thousand times over here but it won't change anything.

I dont dream. I get off my ass and out on the street and I work for a United Ireland. I work at the heart of the community, banging on doors and making things happen. I dont talk about change, I instigate it.

See, there you go, whether you agree or disagree with this gent, he's proactive, not reactive. Do the same RevokeNice. Stop yapping about what you want here and go off and do something about it!
SeanBM 35 | 5,808  
22 Jun 2009 /  #234
RevokeNice, to think I argued with you last night.
You are great, completely delusional but great :)

You have shown me, in other members on here, what I have not seem before, a truly great country.

You have brought out the best in all the Irish and Polish on here.

There are a few other threads I would love you to tidy up, if you are not too busy? ha ha ha ha
Ireland32 2 | 172  
22 Jun 2009 /  #235
Stop yapping about what you want here and go off and do something about it!

Yeah lets see how much support you drum up on the streets. Im sure we will see your face on a poster on a 'POLE' in Ireland any day now.
OP RevokeNice 15 | 1,859  
22 Jun 2009 /  #236
Would that be all those africans and asians that now have Irish citizenship?

Yes a couple of thousand. Hardly earth shattering is it?

Irish people who never emigrated can complain if they wish. We are a sovereign nation.

Kapusta

I give to you amhrannua.com

Unlike the Shinner, Brits Out Poles In, we never killed anyone! Pro-active indeed.
irishdeano 5 | 304  
22 Jun 2009 /  #237
Revoke what is your age?

I lived in a mixed area everyone gets along the way it should be taigs and prods living together and really nice friendly polish people

its guys like you who drag the past back,

you come on here and talk about poles u have been in this thread since 8am are u sure u have work? or are u on dole claiming everyones taxes
SeanBM 35 | 5,808  
22 Jun 2009 /  #238
a couple of thousand. Hardly earth shattering is it?

"70 million people worldwide who can claim Irish descent."[53] Today the diaspora is believed to contain over 80 million people."

you come on here and talk about poles u have been in this thread since 8am

Check random, I was argueing with him till late last night.
dtaylor5632 18 | 2,007  
22 Jun 2009 /  #239
Unlike the Shinner, Brits Out Poles In, we never killed anyone! Pro-active indeed.

What u talking about u stupid ****?
Ireland32 2 | 172  
22 Jun 2009 /  #240
we never killed anyone

well you killing us with your rib tickling jargon

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