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Modern Plantation for Poles in Ireland


Ireland32 2 | 172  
22 Jun 2009 /  #271
Our insane immigration policies(sic) did not cause it, but it certainly did not help.

These people were required to fill the employment requirements of our country you small minded individual.

Do you have a brain?

Did your mother drop you when you were a baby?
irishdeano 5 | 304  
22 Jun 2009 /  #272
so what about your fellow irish men claming the dole in the south and working in the north ?i asked u this but u couldnt answer it

let me hear your view
OP RevokeNice 15 | 1,859  
22 Jun 2009 /  #273
We needed Polish workers to come here and work in Polish shops?

We had 150,000 on the scracther, we should have cut their welfare and made them work. No need for eastern europeans.

IrishDeano

I oppose all fraud. But coming to another country to live off the taxpayer is taking the ****. Just out of interest, is it not true that a foreigner in Poland needs to have worked there for ten years before they can claim welfare? Fair play if true.

The Irish social welfare system was won by Irish unions, it was a safety net for Irish citizens who fell on hard times. Now it seems it is a fishing net for eastern europeans and one particular african country. Welfare will be cut in the next budget. Another consequence of mass immigration. Another loss for the Irish worker.
Ireland32 2 | 172  
22 Jun 2009 /  #274
We needed Polish workers to come here and work in Polish shops?

Sure im sure the Spanish needed Irish people to open Irish bars in their country !

You really should get out more?

Have you every considered therapy?
OP RevokeNice 15 | 1,859  
22 Jun 2009 /  #275
Ireland32

I own a bar in Malaga. I employ locals only.
irishdeano 5 | 304  
22 Jun 2009 /  #276
I own a bar in Malaga. I employ locals only

Oh you own an irish bar in malaga? Right so this goes against everything you said about polish shops, you opened an irish bar to attract irish people in spain to come into it, You are a fcking toolbag, a Grade A one
Ireland32 2 | 172  
22 Jun 2009 /  #277
I own a bar in Malaga. I employ locals only.

Exactly....you own it.

Im off to bed....this is getting boring. Id sooner spend the night inside a ping pong ball than go over the same old splatter spawning out of your hate filled mouth.

Im sure therapy would work, if not im sure there is medication available.....WEEDKILLER
OP RevokeNice 15 | 1,859  
22 Jun 2009 /  #278
irishdeano

No, four of us pooled our money together to purchase the bar at a very good price. It is more of a hobby than anything else. I only go over every second month. You are more than welcome to visit it if you are ever in Benalmadena. Two of the other owners are Spanish. It is an Irish bar in name only.
Kapusta 2 | 66  
22 Jun 2009 /  #279
I own a bar in Malaga.

Yeah I think you lost us with this.

It is an Irish bar in name only.

It's an Irish bar in Spain. You've lost even the people who slightly sympathised with you. Please do not make any more posts complaining of foreigners working abroad. Whether you employ people from Spain or not, you are making money from a business in a foreign country.

Sell it up, buy a place in Ireland an employ local Irish people if you're so worried about them.
OP RevokeNice 15 | 1,859  
22 Jun 2009 /  #280
Kapusta

As I said it is a hobby not a business investment. You would want to be mad to invest in Spain. I created jobs for locals in Spain and pay them well above other bars in the area. I am not in it for profit. Myself and my cousin went in on it with two Spanish friends who run the bar for 365 days a year.

I plough profits back into the bar as it is my pride and joy. Eventually I will buy a couple of bars in Dublin. This is a learning curve for me, my apprenticeship, if you will.

I do not know how you can compare this to Polish shops in Ireland, its absurd.
BritishEmpire - | 148  
22 Jun 2009 /  #281
Iam all for enterprise if its needed, but if you could only operate that bar because you undercut the locals then i would think your a complete a**.
ZIMMY 6 | 1,601  
22 Jun 2009 /  #282
Just another technical comment; Poles are central European, not east European although that is often mistakenly stated.

What's the name of your bar in Spain? I heard it's called "Little Polonia".
OP RevokeNice 15 | 1,859  
22 Jun 2009 /  #283
ZIMMY

Ireland for the Irish. ;)

BritishEmpire

I pay them two euro more than other bars in the area. They are allowed a few beves after work if they so wish, sweat beers. Meals are also provided for those working over four hours. They can order from the menu once they do not take the ****. Hardly exploitation is it.
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
22 Jun 2009 /  #284
RevokeNice

This whole debate is showing the difference between practicalities and a religious approach. Check out what is said at about 3 mins into this discussion, youtube.com/watch?v=HPgwkjVixvI

Practicalities, however, may call for some action to be taken. It's important to take a balanced approach and look at the bigger picture. The reality is, you have little leeway to change things, short of pulling out of the EU.

Please watch the presentation above (the Youtube one). Immigration and the economy are central topics.

Listen to it in its entirety, he'll open your eyes to many things. Sorry, immigrants are needed and it is the fault of government that they didn't impose quotas or upper limits.
daffy 23 | 1,508  
22 Jun 2009 /  #285
Ireland for the Irish. ;)

What a plonker ;)

Ireland for all!

Regarding the plantation of Ireland - It happened.
Much wrong was committed on both sides
As with alot of old history, the stronger side at the time won
Many abuses followed.
peoples divided.
only in the past 15 years have we really seen moving on from this?
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
22 Jun 2009 /  #286
The government and people have to allow for natural occurences to take place. Anyone who knew the dynamic at the time in Poland, prior to accession to the EU, could have predicted the exodus to the UK and Ireland.

There's no use in crying over spilt milk.
OP RevokeNice 15 | 1,859  
22 Jun 2009 /  #287
daffy

Ireland for all? Cop the fook on. We cannot absorb the world. We need the unemployed eastern euros to go home. One TD suggested paying them to return to their own nations. But we would they? Polands foooked too.

youtube.com/watch?v=zNC-Jj3WOjA
scarbyirp  
22 Jun 2009 /  #288
We need the unemployed eastern euros to go home.

Maybe you can head up north and join up with the loyalists (from the ulster plantation) and break some windows? You can start first with the Romanians, then work your way down the street to the Poles, don't forget the Nigerians, and then why not some Chinese (not the chip shop windows though).

One TD suggested paying them to return to their own nations.

Isn't this straight outta the BNP manifesto?
OP RevokeNice 15 | 1,859  
22 Jun 2009 /  #289
scarbyirp

Socialist Spain and Germany do the same both countries have paid foreigners to come home once they understand that they cannot come back for up to five years. You are not permanent residents in my nation, you are guest workers. No work, go home.
SeanBM 35 | 5,808  
22 Jun 2009 /  #290
Regarding the plantation of Ireland - It happened.

This looper is not talking about the plantaion, he is talking about his xenophobia, he is a nut.

No work, go home.

Reminds me of something...

no Irish need apply.
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163  
22 Jun 2009 /  #291
You are great, completely delusional but great :)

True. He's my hero. I will invite him to my plantation...

Grzegorz_
I would say there is easily 200,000 Poles here.

In Ireland there have never been more than 130-150k Poles at the same time. Now It is max 80-90k.

50,000 of which are on the dole.

Prove It.
OP RevokeNice 15 | 1,859  
22 Jun 2009 /  #292
SeanBM

What has a poster from over 100 years ago got to do with present immigration controls? Look you nut, Polish immigration into Ireland is the equivalent of 1,600,000 Irish moving into Poland over a three year period. Its pure madness. We made an error by allowing them free access to our workforce. Time to rectify that error.

Here is what I propose, revoke the free movement of labour for the accession states and issue a work permit scheme, those who are in present employement are exempt, those who are on the dole given one months welfare payments and a one way ticket home. Anybody who wishes to move to Ireland from the accession states must apply for a work permit.

If nobody in Ireland or the "old" european states(the other 14), then and only then, can an employer search for applicants in eastern europe.

Grzegorz_

I have posted links more times than I care to remember.

So, you reckon over 300,000 Poles went home? I find that very hard to believe. Theres 90,000 in Dublin easily, they are everywhere.

Time to put a stop to this free for all.
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163  
22 Jun 2009 /  #293
Theres 90,000 in Dublin easily

Prove It.

BTW I'm moving to Dublin in 3 months.
Ireland32 2 | 172  
22 Jun 2009 /  #294
Anybody who wishes to move to Ireland from the accession states must apply for a work permit.

Ah I see the therapy is working well.....NOT. Didnt you try the weedkiller yet ?

Question - What is your position on the illegal Irish in America who do not have a visa to work there? Do we take them all back? Let them join or dole queues?
OP RevokeNice 15 | 1,859  
22 Jun 2009 /  #295
Grzegorz_

The countries foooked, mate. Watch out though, a lot of shady characters around. You might recognise some of them. ;)

independent.ie/national-news/polish-man-sought-over-murder-still-in-country-1765342.html
argus.ie/breaking-news/national-news/man-held-after-murder-of-polish-national-in-co-down-1775968.html

All from this month. Also on the news now, another polish national in court over knocking down and killing some girl in his car while under the influence. Ah yes, the joys of mass immigration from Poland.
SeanBM 35 | 5,808  
22 Jun 2009 /  #296
Plantation of Ireland.

What has a poster from over 100 years ago got to do with present immigration controls?

You are the one calling it a plantation, which it is clear to everyone except you that it is not and you are shaming yourself by calling it such.

You are shaming yourself by not knowing what that poster represents.

immigration into Ireland is the equivalent of 1,600,000 Irish moving into Poland over a three year period.

There are 80 million Irish people living out of Ireland.
Talk about tipping the scales, we are possibly the biggest load of immigrants today in the world.

We made an error by allowing them free access to our workforce.

No, you needed the work force and messed up the economy and are now looking for a scapegoat with NO proof.

Here is what I propose, revoke the free movement of labour for the accession states and issue a work permit scheme, those who are in present employement are exempt, those who are on the dole given one months welfare payments and a one way ticket home. Anybody who wishes to move to Ireland from the accession states must apply for a work permit.

Here is what I propose, dig a very deep hole and climb in.

I have posted links more times than I care to remember.

Your links are full of crap.

Time to put a stop to this free for all.

No Irish need apply? you are some cowboy.

The countries foooked, mate.

And it is only yourself to blame.

You still don't get it do you RevokeNice, you are talking to a load of Paddies on here, we ALL disagree with you because you are wrong and you are showing yourself to be a right nutter and a little amusing.
OP RevokeNice 15 | 1,859  
22 Jun 2009 /  #297
SeanBM

80 million claim Irish ancestry. So what? That does not mean they are Irish. Ever hear the term Plastic Paddies? How many Irish citizens are living abroad?

There are millions of Poles abroad, much more so than Irish.

My links are from respected sources. All Irish broadsheets.

A plantation- An original settlement in a new country; a colony.

Thats what we have here, a Polish plantation in Ireland.

You are all paddies with Polish girlfriends, therefore biased , without mass immigration you lot would be still single.

Polish girls, one hand on your balls, one in your wallet.
Ireland32 2 | 172  
22 Jun 2009 /  #298
you are talking to a load of Paddies on here

Hi Paddies.....hows she cutting today? How you getting on with the planty thingy majig?

I am organising spot checks at the airports and ports of our great nation. We are stopping anyonr with a shovel, pick or spade that look as if they have the intention of planting any sort of objects on our soil.

So far we have nothing to report but its early days yet.

I see we have the same comedian on again tonight.
Nathan 18 | 1,363  
22 Jun 2009 /  #299
Polish girls, one hand on your balls, one in your wallet.

;)
SeanBM 35 | 5,808  
22 Jun 2009 /  #300
80 million claim Irish ancestry. So what? That does not mean they are Irish. Ever hear the term Plastic Paddies? How many Irish citizens are living abroad?

SeanBM
80 million can return to Ireland whenever they wish? Is David McWilliams a fool? He argues the same point. These people have Irish blood, Irish ancestry, and many of them have an interest in Irish customs and traditions, our culture and language. They view themselves as Irish.

Ha ha ha, you are changing, first they are Irish, then they are plastic paddies ha ha ha.

There are millions of Poles abroad, much more so than Irish.

Ha ha ha ha absolutely NOT.

In 1995, President Mary Robinson reached out to the "70 million people worldwide who can claim Irish descent."[53] Today the diaspora is believed to contain over 80 million people.[54]

A plantation- An original settlement in a new country; a colony.

Is not what it is, you are not all there.

Thats what we have here, a Polish plantation in Ireland.

Rubbish

In politics and in history, a colony is a territory under the immediate political control of a state.

Can you not see that noone believes a word you say, only a true nutter thinks it is everyone else NOT himself and boy do you fit the name nutter.

Hi Paddies.....hows she cutting today? How you getting on with the planty thingy majig?

I am organising spot checks at the airports and ports of our great nation. We are stopping anyonr with a shovel, pick or spade that look as if they have the intention of planting any sort of objects on our soil.

So far we have nothing to report but its early days yet.

I see we have the same comedian on again tonight.

ha ha ha ha, ah it is worth it just for the laugh that gave me :)

You are all paddies with Polish girlfriends, therefore biased

Sure you are the only paddy in the world, we don't count and neither do the 80 million others.
Wow you got some loony ego.

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