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2 Polish men killed in Drimnagh, Dublin


Aniolek 2 | 22  
28 Feb 2008 /  #1
I have looked for a post about what has happened last weekend in Drimnagh

(2 men killed by teenagers-

A double murder investigation is under way following the death of a second man who was stabbed in the Dublin suburb of Drimnagh last Saturday.
29-year-old Pavel Kalite had been critically ill since the attack, which has already claimed the life of his 27-year-old friend Marius Szwajkos.

but I couldn't find any. I think it is something that should be discussed instead of ignored! It seems more important to me than some of the other crap that is being discussed ie: is my polish bf cheating on me.... etc....

I am disgusted by the what has happened and what a s---hole my city is becoming.
I know this is being reported of in Poland, so has the opinion of Polish people changed towards Ireland?
LondonChick 31 | 1,134  
28 Feb 2008 /  #2
What a terrible tragedy.

Do we know if they were attacked because they were Polish, or was it a random attack?

(and yes, I agree with you..... the Polish girls are the hottest in the world / is my bf cheating because he is Polish? type threads are getting a little tedious)
OP Aniolek 2 | 22  
28 Feb 2008 /  #3
They are reporting on the news that the attack was not because they were Polish although how are we to know if this is 100% true?

They have been saying on the radio that they were attacked by teenagers because they refused to buy alcohol for them.
db1874 7 | 227  
28 Feb 2008 /  #4
more about it here in The Times [timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article3451678.ece] Two Poles die in Irish 'screwdriver attack'] , allegedly they wouldn't buy alcohol for some teenagers and were then attacked.
irishdeano 5 | 304  
28 Feb 2008 /  #5
honestly i dont think it was cause there polish... its just the streets have many scum bags on them. its terriable its a total disgrace that someone can just do this to someone.
OP Aniolek 2 | 22  
28 Feb 2008 /  #6
I'm not saying it is because they were polish. I was looking for some polish opinion on the subject, what do they think of Dublin now?
irishdeano 5 | 304  
28 Feb 2008 /  #7
well dublin at night has always been quite a dangerous place. its better to keep on the main streets there at night. i actually feel safer when i be in the streets in poland at night.
OP Aniolek 2 | 22  
28 Feb 2008 /  #8
I live very near to Drimnagh and even though it has a bad reputation I thought that it wasn't so bad. Now I'm not so sure!
irishdeano 5 | 304  
28 Feb 2008 /  #9
its like every place now. you can never be safe anymore. you're not even safe in your own home
Grounded 4 | 99  
28 Feb 2008 /  #10
Well unfortunately these things happen on a daily basis all over the world. I dont think we should be looking at Dublin in a different way due to this incident.

A former german colleague of mine has been assaulted twice within two weeks where as nothing ever happened to me. Something could happen to me tomorrow as well whether it is in Athlone, Dublin, Warsaw or anywhere else for that matter. Unfortunately Sc*mbags are everywhere and we can only hope that those responsible will get what they deserve.

Doesnt mean that this isnt a tragedy and my condolences go to the family........
OP Aniolek 2 | 22  
28 Feb 2008 /  #11
I am shocked and disgusted by it! They were attacked by teenagers with a screwdriver!!!

Yes attacks do happen all the time, but that shouldn't mean that we all just say "oh well, more scumbags on the streets".
MareGaea 29 | 2,752  
28 Feb 2008 /  #12
I don't think it was because they were Polish. They just happened to be at the wrong place, at the wrong time. It, however, is time that the Irish government starts to realise they have a severe problem with its teenagers. Right now, the law says that even if a bunch of big, muscelbound teenagers of 16 or 17 years old, beat you up, they will just get a warning. But if you defend yourself and hit one back and you are over 21, you will get arrested and end up with a fine or in jail because you hit a minor. This happened to a friend of mine: he was attacked and beaten up by five 16 year olds. He just hit one back in the face and that kid goes to the police while the others hold my friend to the ground. Gardai come and arrest my friend and gave him a month's jail + 3000 Euro fine for hitting a child.

Dublin is not as bad as it seems, there are just some areas you don't want to go at night, just like any other cities.

M-G (my sincerest condoleances to the family of the deceased)
Frank 23 | 1,183  
28 Feb 2008 /  #13
Large cities everywhere.....dangerous.....but Dublin especially!!
Kasz 1 | 76  
28 Feb 2008 /  #14
MareGaea have 100% right, everyday ppl dying cus of they nationality,religion etc.Iknow its not normal but things happend and this is just next thingy to yell in media
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markdublin - | 1  
28 Feb 2008 /  #16
Dublin is just the same as any big cities in the UK & Ireland. There are a good few scumbgas who have no respect for human life and would think nothing of kicking someone in the head when they are on the floor. Usually these animals are high on drink and drugs.

The vast majority of Irish people and Dubliners are good people who are sickened by what has happened.

It had nothing to do with the men being Polish - it was the wrong place at the wrong time. If I had been there I don't think they would have acted any differently.

I have met some great Polish people here and they are honest hard-working people. I hope they continue to come here as they make this country a better place.
Filios1 8 | 1,336  
28 Feb 2008 /  #17
Very sad indeed.. Two Poles minding their own business and attacked by a bunch of Irish thugs. Sickening.

RIP Marius and Pawel
MareGaea 29 | 2,752  
28 Feb 2008 /  #18
I would rather say: two guys minding their own business and being at the wrong time at the wrong place. I don't think it has anything to do with them being Polish. The cr*p that attacked them would've attacked anyway - would it be Poles, Irish, Dutch, British, that doesn't matter.

M-G
jkchambers 3 | 33  
28 Feb 2008 /  #19
This terrible incident has been discussed on several radio talkshows. On each occasion the radio switchboards have been jammed with ordinary Dubliners phoning in express their horror and disgust at these terrible murders and, of course, expressing sympathy with the deceased`s families.

Unfortunately in Dublin, like most cities, we do have a young scumbag element who can go out of control at times especially if under the influence of drugs. I really dont know what the solution is.
Filios1 8 | 1,336  
28 Feb 2008 /  #20
I would rather say: two guys minding their own business and being at the wrong time at the wrong place. I don't think it has anything to do with them being Polish. The cr*p that attacked them would've attacked anyway - would it be Poles, Irish, Dutch, British, that doesn't matter.

No, I highly doubt that. Poles are very recognizable overseas, especially in the UK. The hooligans were probably drunk, and looking for something "fun" to do. They should all be sent to prison for life.
Deise 07 3 | 76  
28 Feb 2008 /  #21
poles keep wages down and force native people on benefits because they can't find proper jobs in their own country cos they will work for nothing and share with 10 people to a room or more so they can buy a place in poland whereas british people will never be able to afford a home these days for a family like most people they had this open door policy forced upon them say no to mass EU labour it's your own children and native people who will suffer big in the long run especially any decent working class british ,priority should be given to them before any pole

**** off - this thread has nothing to do with immigration to Britain or with your warped sense of reality. It is about the murder of two innocent people in Dublin. Leave now.

As a Dubliner I am ashamed of what happened and can only hope that the families of the two men will some day recover enough from this tragedy to be able to get on with the rest of their lives.

We have a big problem with this type of mindless violence in our society. It seems to have increased since Ireland has become wealthy over the past 10 years. I agree that it could have been anyone that this happened to although the fact that the two men only arrived in Ireland 9 months ago may mean that they might still not have been fully aware of the type of danger some of these street people pose.

Apparently the local people of Drimnagh will hold a prayer vigil at the place where the murders took place next Saturday. Apparently they have been calling radio programmes all day attempting to distance themselves from the actions of the lunatics who carried out this act. I am told there has been a bank Bank of Ireland account set up where people can contribute to help with the costs to repatriate the bodies to Poland.

No, I highly doubt that. Poles are very recognizable overseas, especially in the UK. The hooligans were probably drunk, and looking for something "fun" to do.

I doubt it Filios. We have a very large underclass of people who will attack anyone irregardless of their nationality. This type of thing has happened before but it normally happens to other Irish people. A kid was murdered last year for his mobile phone. Many of these people have access to guns and other weapons. Drimnagh, the place where the two Polish men were murdered has seen a big gang feud over the past few years during which a lot of people have been shot dead and many others shots and stabbed. The lateset killing in the feud actually took place in Spain a couple of weeks ago. I think many Poles who come here dont really realise that dangerous places like these exist in Ireland and dont take the threats seriously.

See the attached blog which is written by a Pole living in Ireland who calls it as he sees it with regard to crime in Ireland and the type of atmosphere which exists in some places.

drakkart.com/eire2/2007/01/21/crime-in-ireland-garda-needs-to-be-armed/
quando - | 4  
28 Feb 2008 /  #22
Second man dies after Drimnagh attack

A second man has died following last weekend's attack on two Polish immigrants by a gang of youths in Drimnagh in south Dublin. Pawel Kalite (26) died in St James's Hospital from head injuries sustained during the incident. His friend Marius Szwajkos (27) died on Monday afternoon. Both men were working on a building site locally and had been in Ireland for less than nine months. It is now also understood that the teenagers attacked the two men on Benbulben Road because they refused to buy them alcohol. It is believed that the two men were stabbed with a screwdriver, but the weapon has not yet been recovered. A 17-year-old youth is being held in custody at Crumlin Garda Station as part of the investigation; two other teenage suspects have been released.
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163  
28 Feb 2008 /  #23
Worse than animals.
Eirbiz - | 1  
29 Feb 2008 /  #24
My condolences to the families of the two victims.
I'm an Irishman living in Ireland all my life and if you read my websites you will see that it's no surprise to me that these murders occurred.

Ireland has become a nation of teenage thugs with no effort made to address the problem.
My advice to anyone visiting the country is not to go out alone and not at all at night unless you have to.
eirbiz.com
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BubbaWoo 33 | 3,510  
29 Feb 2008 /  #25
they came for a better life and it was ended far from home

RIP Marius and Pawel

RIP
jestesjedyny 5 | 125  
29 Feb 2008 /  #26
That's very sad :( *What is this world turning into.... :/
Deise 07 3 | 76  
29 Feb 2008 /  #27
they came for a better life and it was ended far from home

RIP Marius and Pawel

RIP

Well said Bubba

Ar dheis Dé go raibh a anam dílis
kazman - | 1  
18 Sep 2008 /  #28
People in england were going on about how friendly and great Dublin is, i visited it and found it the complete opposite, the people were total tossers, theres chavvy arsed kids running around, pubs and pissholes everywhere, africans immigrants drunks hookers and bums all over, oh and yeah even more pubs, yawn cosmopolitan city of culture, my arse immigrant over run pisstoss hole more like.
Franek 8 | 271  
18 Sep 2008 /  #29
This is sooo sad Regardless of what nationality they were, it makes no difference.

What are they going to do with the suspect? Will he be charged as an adult or as a juvenile?

America has big problems too.. But only in the black sections.. The white sections are safe.. Even at night.

Most of the black crime is drug related, they kill each other..

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