800K of Polish immigrants in UK don't pay taxes -what do the poles think

NoImmi

-"Sure you do, eberybody on the internet has a degree."

No I am sorry; thats where your wrong, Noimmi, by your own admission you haven't got yours yet wee man.

Now get back to your books, study hard and you might just make it, only one degree behind me, hurry and you might catch up!

Does it stick in your craw that your studying at Hillhead High school (Glasgow Uni) which is only 19th in the UK for Law and not as good as Strathclyde at 16th?

Yeah thats where I got mine :)

As a scientist , I understand the requirement for an argument to be backed up with independent, impartial, peer reviewed data.

I ask you are you sure that the reading material you reference - the daily star, record, mail or the sun qualifies?

Oh no sorry, you did mention migrationwatch.co.uk the right wing think-tank which has members that include several UKIP affiliates, so everything you say must be true.

You also slag off sociology..... These are the very people that give the figure you and your beloved Red Top papers mangle twist and misquote...

If this was the 60 and 70's you'd be saying exactly the same about the influx of Indians and Pakistanis to the UK.....

If it was 2000 years ago you'd be moaning about the Romans.... I mean what did they ever do for us? :P

Noimmi, please just stop whining and move on......

I'm surprised that not a single toilet cleaning Pole washed Nonimmi's mouth with bleach yet. On the second thought, even hoards of them would not help to bleach his mouth or his brain... Arghhh.

Not another student who doesn't know the grammar basics !!

If you want to abbreviate the words "you are", you write "you're" and not "your" !!

haha, You have rumbled me there!!! :))

At 0200 on a nightshift in a chemical plant the mind can sometimes get a bit fuzzy!!

I guess I'll have to eat shoots and leaves

Neil :)

Reminds me of my first visit to a brothel.

About 60% of the UK population are of working age and 75% of those work and pay taxes. Here is my shocking headline:

HALF OF BRITS IN THE UK DON'T WORK

Maybe true, but how many of them are actually indiginous to the UK, it would seem anyone and everyone has a British passport these days.

[edit] Employment
White British have a lower self-employment rate and lower percent in managerial or professional occupations compared to all ethnic groups. White British are about 13% percent self-employed with Irish 16% percent self-employed. White British with 27% percent have a slightly lower percent of their population in managerial and professional positions compared to all ethnic groups. Among White British, Irish with about 35% have a greater percent of their population in managerial or professional positions.[4]

White people in the United Kingdom are the most employed and economically active among British. Indigenous Britons have the lowest unemployment rate among all ethnic groups in the United Kingdom. The census group White British have unemployment rates of about 4% percent with less unemployment for women. Smaller White ethnic groups who marked "Other White" have a slightly higher unemployment rate. [5] White British have the lowest rates of economic inactivity i.e. not working and/or not looking for work. White British have an economic inactiviy of 20% percent with higher rates for women. Among White British, the smaller White ethnic groups who marked "Other White" have a slightly higher economic inactiviy. [6]

Ever been to Glasgow?

I was just trying to make the point that the figures quoted in the daily star might sound shocking but its normal. At least you are thinking about it rather than blindly reading the article.

The other thing that struck me was that 800,000 Poles claim £33 million a year in child benefits. Thats 79p a week each. 7.5 million families claim child benefit in the uk. Thats 1 in 8 people. If each of these families had only one child to claim for, they would get £18 a week. Many of the families will have more than one child of course. If they did only have one child it works out to £2.25 per per capita.

The point I am making is that from the daily star article and a few quick google searches, I concluded that Poles statistically work more and claim far less benefit than the national average.

Nonimmigration can keep picking out these tabloid reports but as an (half) educated man I'd hope he'd have the sense to see that things aren't quite as bad as the Star and the Mail would have you believe. I'm sure he'll never change his mind though because people form opinions from snappy headlines and then search for evidence that they are right.

i have though it was fairly dark when i was there .... as it was after 11pm lol

No probs, you've heard of "Eat Shoots and Leaves", so you're forgiven :-)


I think half seems rather high, but I'll take you at your word, however, it's different if someone who claims benefits and has lived here all their life, as have their parents and so on.

People can't emigrate to another country and then claim benefits - not for at least five years anyway. It's a kick in the spuds to those of us who, like me, aren't entitled to so much as a free prescription, but have been paying in for a damn sight longer than your average EU economic migrant. I paid my first NI stamp with my first job nearly 20 years ago.

I'm in the half of the British population that do work, but I don't work to keep the Polish in child benefit and dole money.

Well, I'm paying insurance here and not getting anything in return. It's a swizz.

What is it you're after ?

If you're British and living/working in Poland, then you can't really expect the same as the Polish.

That's my whole point. The benefit system over here is in need of some drastic changes to make it fairer for all. I've no objection to anyone claiming money, but it should take into consideration their connection to the country. The way it works now just isn't right.

Who cares about some people opinions about immigrtion. UK/Germany/France can't expell immigrants ... because they don't have enought children. They can try to play "divide and rule". We can listen to some moaners but honestly they don't have choice. They have to learn some rules of multicultural country with bad and good sides :) The funniest thing is that they don't have a choice because of their low level of reproduction.

repressions aimed on one group of immigrants stop assimilation of other groups because it is chain.

Ironic, the polish living in britain can expect more than the british.

*yawn* more sh*t from someone who doesn't know what he's talking about *yawn*

Do you understand how the UK benefits system works for EU A8 migrants? No? Didn't think so.

well the law stinks and the reason this government is getting ousted.

A Pole lecturing the British about having to be multi cultural....stop it,my sides are splitting.....

Yeah, I'm sewing mine up now :)

Oh right so we should all pop out 11 kids....like the ***** and the africans!....man you're funny..tell me, whats the average number of children in a family in Poland these days?

I don't know where you're from ShelleyS, but in Britain the word "Pa*i" is seen as a racial insult, so stop throwing it around like that.

Your racism bores me. Doesn't it bore you too?

Na, probarly she sits on the toilet reading her daily mail paper. On days of constipation, she can be very racist.

Noimmigation why are you even on this forum ??????

You special because you are doing a Degree ?????

I lived in South Africa for 12 years during Appartied, you are obviously the sort of person who would have relished living in that era!!!!!

What about our own British Citizens that claim Benifits when they really could be working, I've not heard you complain about them yet ????

This discussion will never end, because we have noarrowminded individuals like no immi,

I am 100% scottish,
Born and bred,

Yet if it was not for polish and irish migrants, ( 1900-1910...)
I would not be here.
My point is any economic society needs imagrants to boost the countrys social life.
Where would we be without or local indian, frendch, italian, chinese, thai resteraunt, as well as our local corner shop

The poles are not the uk's problem. its the amount of people who sit on there arse getting high while you and i, and the poles, asains, indians, irish, french, and every other natonality who work here pay tax to keep them.

@Topic

Im against taxes.

What does british citizens have to do with british immigration ?

i think you will find they probably dont pay taxes.as the owner of a small construction company i have employed eight poles over the last three to four years.at first i had alot of respect for these guys as they worked hard, they were payed the same wages as my other workers, they were taking home £350 per week for 40 hrs. i bought some of them a car so they could get around, i loaned them money and done anything i could to help them out. :silly me: seven out of eight of these men have since tried to make false claims of my insurance. calling siptu making false allegations. one pole had started

and i could not get his national insurance number of him, when i asked for it the second
week he told me that he was receiving benefit and he would have to get both it and his wages, he was living with his girlfreind and child and was receiving £460 in benfits. a bit much for me to stomach as a tax payer.

in the last number of weeks i have been talking
to alot of other firms with the same problem, alot of polish are trying to make false claims of their employers its seen as easy money but employers are seeing them as liabilitys and are offloading them.

to all poles i say slan leat

noimmigration, have you ever asked a non-UK student how much they pay to study at a UK uni? I think you'll find it a little bit more than you.

Now why is that? Probably so UK uni's can make a bit of money out of them.

true and theyve turned to be the way of life


well maybe its coz they are welcomed more generously than other nationalities. the nation seems to have a polish section or translator in every sector.from transport, banks, supermarkets, schools etc. etc. seen many nationalities in uk but havent seen such hospitality offered to other nationalities. now a common uk person would wonder why the poles.

got no prob with poles b4 u ask.