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Help needed - Calling all Polish persons living/working in London


carly  
12 Feb 2007 /  #1
Hi All

I'll introduce myself first - My name is Carly and I work for the Metropolitan Police. At present I am undertaking some research in order to better understand the needs and demands of the Polish Community for policing services across London.

Please with this in mind please could you offer any advice, assistance or guidance to help greatly assist in helping me to ensure that the Police service meet these needs.

Many Thanks i'll look forward to reading your replies

Carly :)
BubbaWoo 33 | 3,510  
12 Feb 2007 /  #2
I work for the Metropolitan Police

it wasnt me... i was just watching the door... honest... scarper lads....

[PS Welcome to the forum Carly... hope you make an active contribution... :)]
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163  
12 Feb 2007 /  #3
the needs and demands of the Polish Community

Cash, sex, pivo, vodka...
Zgubiony 15 | 1,554  
12 Feb 2007 /  #4
Don't worry Carly, I'm sure a serious reply will come up. I think we have a few PL living in or around London here
Wroclaw 44 | 5,387  
12 Feb 2007 /  #5
Hello and Welcome Carly.

Employ a Polish-English Liaison Officer.

Invite members of the Polish community in for a chat.

Make a Polish speaking lawyer available.

Don't put milk in the tea. [This is not a joke.]
Magdushya 3 | 104  
14 Feb 2007 /  #6
Greetings Carly,

:)

my boyfriend wants to apply (we have an application form) and working for the Metropolitan Police. It's fantastic that you protect people, and care about Poles also.
EngrFlux  
14 Feb 2007 /  #7
Hello Carly,

I would suggest a 30Minute drive to Reading. There is a large Polish community, standing by the Oxford road for 5 minutes with questioniare will yield so many responses if you have a smile on your face.

If all else fails; step into a Maplinka or any buildings with the sign Sklep.
Hope this helps!
OP carly  
15 Feb 2007 /  #8
Invite members of the Polish community in for a chat.

Many Thanks Wroclaw for your reply. I am at present organising an open evening at my work place for members of the polish community to attend - this will be advertised hopefully in the free Polish newspaper which comes out weekly but is still in draft format at present

Thankyou Magdushya for your reply - London is a very multicultural city and therefore it is essential that the police are able to cater for the different communities that reside here - without advice and assistance from the community we will never understand their needs. I wish your boyfriend every success with his application :)

step into a Maplinka or any buildings with the sign Sklep.

Thank you - I believe I have seen these signs on buildings
Sadie  
15 Feb 2007 /  #9
I'll introduce myself first - My name is Carly and I work for the Metropolitan Police. At present I am undertaking some research in order to better understand the needs and demands of the Polish Community for policing services across London.

Carly.

What about the better needs of the elderly community??? community bobbies are a thing of the past and they have very little in the way of protection in their communities.

Could you please explain to why a minority group should receive special treatment? We already spend Billions on translations and interpreters, so now the Police have to waste money and time too...

When resources are so stretched at the moment shouldn't police be policing area's that need it most instead of trying to be so P.C. and trying to cater for the needs of immigrants and that goes for all immigrants.

Special treatment is for those that are unable to look after themselves and from I can tell Polish people are getting on very nicely without community liasion officers round offering tea and sympathy!
OP carly  
15 Feb 2007 /  #10
Thank you Sadie for your response.

Consulting London on a broad range of issues, both locally and London wide, is one of the ways the Metropolitan Police service engages Londoners to ensure we understand the needs, wishes and priorities of the communities we serve.

community bobbies are a thing of the past and they have very little in the way of protection in their communities.

Safer Neighbourhoods is about local policing; police and partners working with communities, to identify and tackle issues of concern in their neighbourhood.

Safer Neighbourhoods teams are dedicated to your community and are additional to other policing teams and units in London

You can find more information on met.police.uk
Sadie  
15 Feb 2007 /  #11
Carly,

Thank you for your response, but I see that you work in PR of some sort, because my question was nicely skirted around.

Sadie
ola123  
15 Feb 2007 /  #12
Don't put milk in the tea. [This is not a joke.]

Do you really? Disgusting!
Wroclaw 44 | 5,387  
15 Feb 2007 /  #13
Ola123,

I never drink tea at all. But I do think it is important, when putting someone at ease, that you should have some idea of customs and traditions. Especially when you might be dealing with delicate situations.
BubbaWoo 33 | 3,510  
15 Feb 2007 /  #14
I see that you work in PR of some sort

:)

Alan Gordon, Vice-Chairman of the Police Federation, was quoted this week as saying "If the public knew how few police officers were on duty at night, they would be amazed" - The Daily Telegraph, p.23, 13.2

This is at a time when police numbers are suposedly at an all time high...

The question of where are all the officers are, and how they spend their time, has been a matter of contention between chief constables and successive Home Secretaries... it now appears that we have an answer...

...they are busy engaged in pointless PR excersises or attending tea parties with ethnic minorities... whilst many who read this forum have no idea what policing is like in the UK, some of us live there... and are fully aware when spin is being applied...
Sadie  
15 Feb 2007 /  #15
...they are busy engaged in pointless PR excersises or attending tea parties with ethnic minorities... whilst many who read this forum have no idea what policing is like in the UK, some of us live there... and are fully aware when spin is being applied...

A man with some intelect I see.

Sadie
BubbaWoo 33 | 3,510  
15 Feb 2007 /  #16
A man with some intelect I see.

just agreeing with you, Sadie
Sadie  
15 Feb 2007 /  #17
Im surprised I didn't jumpted on for my comments to be honest, I have been here for some time but only post now and again when I feel I have something of value to offer, pitty more people don't do the same.

bad spelling mistakes there, rushing nearly time to go home!
BubbaWoo 33 | 3,510  
15 Feb 2007 /  #18
why not register... ?
Sadie  
16 Feb 2007 /  #19
Because I don't like to get involved (name calling, people being two faced, back stabbing etc - I see quite a bit in here), I have seen some of the recent posts and how people behave, like I said I post on what I feel is important or relevant and try to be objective.
poland  
16 Feb 2007 /  #20
m surprised I didn't jumpted on for my comments to be honest

Maybe if you registered then you could have your conversations elsewhere rather than on a thread where somebody is clearly looking for an adult response to some work being undertaken - if you disagree with what is being done then that is fine you are entitled to your opinion but then leave the thread for those that wish to give some advice which may be helpful - did it ever dawn on you that the individual is just doing a job that they have been asked to do. You wasn't jumped on for your comments and neither was your question skirted around what was given was some facts about work that is being done which clearly you had no idea about. People are forever complaining but when somebody attempts to make a difference it is them that gets jumped on
Sadie  
16 Feb 2007 /  #21
I dont want to sound rude, but the person who posted the thread did in no way answer my questions and as BubbaWoo said it was spin, another example of PR, time wasting and money wasting and as an English person I find it quite offensive that minorities are given "special treatment", could English people living abroad expect the same? The answer to that question is no.

In England foreigners receive free English classes along with other help, if I were to go and live in Italy, do you think the government would give me free Italian lessons and help looking for a job?

My point is that if people arrive in the UK then they should abide by the laws set out and fit in to the communities that they live in, also as I have stated Polish people seem to be doing just fine with the intervention of the Met, you must understand that the British goverment loves to spend money on usless things, rather than actually spending it where it should be spent, in this instance, the money would be better spent on policing areas which have a high crime rate and getting more police back on the beat, gone are the days where you see a policeman and know him by name.

I have no intention of joining the forum for my reasons I have alreaded posted.

Thank you for your comments.

Sadie

correction to paragraph 3, line 3

without rather than with
poland  
16 Feb 2007 /  #22
Could you please explain to why a minority group should receive special treatment?

Consulting London on a broad range of issues, both locally and London wide, is one of the ways the Metropolitan Police service engages Londoners to ensure we understand the needs, wishes and priorities of the communities we serve.

I think that was in fact the answer to your question

community bobbies are a thing of the past

Safer Neighbourhoods is about local policing; police and partners working with communities, to identify and tackle issues of concern in their neighbourhood.

That I believe answered your other

I feel it is more that you was wanting a specific answer and it was not what you got.

the person who posted the thread did in no way answer my questions

And in response to that I would also say that why indeed should they - they posted a thread asking for help from the polish persons living/working in London you did not answer theirs
wonski81 - | 22  
16 Feb 2007 /  #23
In England foreigners receive free English classes along with other help, if I were to go and live in Italy, do you think the government would give me free Italian lessons and help looking for a job?

I don't know much about Italy, but if You go to Netherlands, You can expect this kind of assistance.

I don't think that Police is only interested in Polish opinions. Community Support Officers are visiting my home regurarly to ask if I have any suggestions regardind safety issues in my area. Wkhat I think is that they want to know opinions of all resident - regardless whether they are from minority, or not. Number of Polish immigrants in UK grown up due to joining UE, that's why they want to know their expectations - Poles may have totally different issues than English-born or Indian. Police is to take care all of us - we pay taxes like everyone else in this country - we expect care like everyone else, too.

How the government spend money is rather political dispute - and everyone - including immigrants - pay price for their decision and ideas. Meeting police officer with polish community is not the biggest financial issue in spending taxpayers money...
Sadie  
16 Feb 2007 /  #24
How the government spend money is rather political dispute - and everyone - including immigrants - pay price for their decision and ideas.

But in the end you can go home to Poland, the majority of English are here for life, so you will agree that the policies and so on, in the long term will affect English people.

Poles may have totally different issues than English

Again I do not want to sound rude because your post was very balanced, but why should the Police spend time on impoving immigrants lives whilst disregarding the English?

we pay taxes like everyone else in this country - we expect care like everyone else, too.

I agree with you totally, everyone deserves to live in a safe place no matter what their nationality.

My point about the money wasting was, that time is being spent on unnecessary PR exercises, rather than getting on with policing.

Sadie
BubbaWoo 33 | 3,510  
16 Feb 2007 /  #25
community policing in much of the uk is falling woefully short of the mark... whilst the reasons behind these PR exercisies are obvious i am far more concerned with the inadequacies of grass-roots policing that impact on my day-to-day life and those of my family... when these have been sufficiently tackled then look elsewhere... not beforehand...
Sadie  
16 Feb 2007 /  #26
I totally agree.

Sadie
BubbaWoo 33 | 3,510  
16 Feb 2007 /  #27
I totally agree.

i think most in england, locals and immigrants alike, would...
Sadie  
16 Feb 2007 /  #28
It apears that the younger generation and immigrants (I don't particularly like using that word, as I think it sounds offensive) are unaware of the inadequacies.

Sadie
tomisimon  
7 Apr 2007 /  #29
Hi I am Polish I speak English quite fluently I would like to know something more about becoming a police officer.Thank you,
tomisimonpol@yahoo
1st generation  
11 Apr 2007 /  #30
Wow, you should see how the U.S. government is bending over backwards for illegal Mexican immigrants. George Bush and all the Democrats just want their votes.

All other immigrants are expected to use English except for Mexicans and Latin Americans. They write all documents in Spanish even for garbage collection and voting. They are being courted by US banks and can by houses even when they are not legally here. This enabling is causing these illegal immigrants to not speak English at all. They drive without insurance and when a crime is committed they run away to Mexico. We provide them with free medical assistance and education and they fly Mexican flags and claim not to want to be Americans. Americans and especially legal immigrants have had enough. We cannot tolerate 12 million people operating in this fashion.

As a Polish-American, but American first, I understand the need to take care of your citizens first. Guests, invited or not, should abide by the rules of their host countries. T

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