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What's So Great About The UK?


Frank  23 | 1183  
11 Jan 2008 /  #271
You're not trying to curry favour from across the ol' North Channel here Seanus.........lol

was not conferred

...which means, they still hold the purse strings......

sizeable dilution of UK

This is only for as long as its convenient, when it suits, UK will pull out, once there is a true crisis.......sure its conjecture on my behalf...but remember there have been 3 occasions in last 120 years where common currency areas existed in Europe, but none lasted longer than 20 odd years!

English got into bed with the Scottish

Yes, but who ruled?

I'm part Irish

I will forgive you.....for just being part.........I am pure bred Irish .......going back at least a generation and a half...lol

Commonalites are good, as long as things are going well, strong leadership, fiscally fluid and solvent....but...........

Theres always a hiccup..............

Seanus.....Ireland was a 2nd world country until they joined the EU in '73, it was a truly difficult period in all its history, almost as bad as the great Famine...but we survived, but paid a high price.
Seanus  15 | 19666  
11 Jan 2008 /  #272
Ireland joined the EU in 1981 btw. Britain joined in 1972, taking effect as of Jan 1 1973
Frank  23 | 1183  
11 Jan 2008 /  #273
The Republic of Ireland joined the European Community in 1973 after unsuccessful attempts in 1961 and 1967.

usna.edu/EnglishDept/ilv/ire-eu.htm

Its ok Seanus........don't have to score points....:)
Seanus  15 | 19666  
11 Jan 2008 /  #274
Just testing, it was Greece who joined in 1981. I am an EU major so I hopefully know my stuff. I studied it in my Honours year and my postgrad year. The point is that Scotland has a strong enough economy to sustain itself. Why does England hold onto us? The EU has curbed many of our powers of sovereignty. U imagine the English, sorry, British government to be omnipotent I think. We agree to disagree, agree?
osiol  55 | 3921  
11 Jan 2008 /  #275
Why does England hold onto us?

Think of The UK as like a mini EU.
Frank  23 | 1183  
11 Jan 2008 /  #276
Just testing,

Seanus...you tempt me..........

You shuda just said you were wrong.........no further mention......but.....now its 3-0!!!

Scotland has a strong enough economy

Hhhhhhhhmmmmmmm...is this really young Salmond whose talking?...:)......eeemmm....like the scottish economy built on sand...perhaps?

U imagine the English, sorry, British government to be omnipotent

No, no...not at all...............

We agree to disagree, agree?

Oh, don't know about that.........letting you off so early in your carreer!
Seanus  15 | 19666  
11 Jan 2008 /  #277
I do pretty much. My thesis was on subsidiarity and I read a lot of good stuff likening the UK to a smaller scale version. Read Professor Golub, he's good. My old Prof, Prof Beaumont is also a leading authority on the key issues. The great thing is the diversity in the UK. I remember having a debate in Izumo, Japan, with my mate from Birmingham and his Welsh girl. They started to go hammer and tongs about what it means to be British but we should stop nagging and accept the richness of our respective cultures, especially Scotland's (wink)
osiol  55 | 3921  
11 Jan 2008 /  #278
the scottish economy built on sand

This statement is not geologically sound .
Seanus  15 | 19666  
11 Jan 2008 /  #279
We've beaten u 11 times in the last 17 years in rugby Frank, u've beaten us only 7 times. There's one back. Our economy is based on North Sea Oil, not sand, 2 back. Career is spelt as I wrote it, 3 back. It's executive, not excecutive, I'm in front!! I called it a Parliament not a government, sorry, just rubbing salt in the wounds now Frankie boy
Frank  23 | 1183  
11 Jan 2008 /  #280
Nutin worse than a sore looser.......lol
plg  17 | 262  
11 Jan 2008 /  #281
uk is ****
osiol  55 | 3921  
11 Jan 2008 /  #282
looser

... when they get uptight?

****

Arse doesn't get censored, so what could this be?
Seanus  15 | 19666  
11 Jan 2008 /  #283
When I'm looser, I'm not sore. I just wouldn't like to be a sore loser like u sunshine!!
Frank  23 | 1183  
11 Jan 2008 /  #284
Arse

Quite legit...Arsene Wengers ......buddy name ..:)
Seanus  15 | 19666  
11 Jan 2008 /  #285
Well, Ireland seems to be strong, plenty of mussels in Galway. Do u wear 2 condoms when shafting Frank? To be sure, 2 be sure!! Why is it that the Irish are often the butt of the Scotsman, Englishman and Irishman jokes? LOL
Frank  23 | 1183  
11 Jan 2008 /  #286
Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww..Seanus...you've not descended to the level of the English...have you....laffing at the Irish......who've had the last laff amongst the Celtic nations for some time.

Plz try not to let your sense of jealousy and inferiority( to whom I am sure you will tell) show through on the forum, it really is quite unbecoming!
osiol  55 | 3921  
11 Jan 2008 /  #287
you've not descended to the level of the English

Is that something I can see on your shoulder there?
Seanus  15 | 19666  
11 Jan 2008 /  #288
I've just been provoking reactions from u Frank. Truth be told, it's hard for me to diss the Irish and mean it as I have an affinity for 'things Irish'. U2, Clannad, Enya and the Corrs on the singing front. Guinness is an institution. Irish pubs, I loved the one in Hiroshima, I often hung out there. U were so inept for a while, not taking arguments on but now u r alive. So, how are those spuds anyway?
Frank  23 | 1183  
11 Jan 2008 /  #289
U were so inept for a while, not taking arguments on but now u r alive

Emmmm sly compliment...or a dig in the ribs, or worse kick in the criggs......not fussed....

Spuds......?......in that the Spud Murphys...or..............not sure I know who you're talking about.......:)
Seanus  15 | 19666  
11 Jan 2008 /  #290
Takes a sly dog to know one, hehehe. Maybe like the Murphys, u r not bitter. R u gonna bring noimmigration out of hibernation?
truebrit  3 | 196  
12 Jan 2008 /  #291
I just dont see the UK as you see it, "going to hell in a hand cart" as Jim Reeves said many years ago!

Cheer up Shelley! Obviously people have different experiences of life and mine is that apart from bad behavior (lack of respect,anti-social behavior,scroungers etc-which can be put right over time) I feel many things are better now than they were in the 1970s.
isthatu  3 | 1164  
12 Jan 2008 /  #292
but over the centuries there were several reasons why the Scottish got into bed with the English...one being, treachery within their own ranks!!!

hhhmmm,swap "Scotland" for "Ireland".....

So is pizza dont start saying we have an infinity with Italy though do we?

Just what did the Romans ever do for us?.........

Ford are at present in the process of selling off Land Rove

That would be the US Ford motor company then.....
Frank  23 | 1183  
12 Jan 2008 /  #293
hhhmmm,swap "Scotland" for "Ireland"...

And.....your point is.....seeing as Scotland continues to sup from the English nipple with no shame........?

I seem to remember at least the Irish took up arms...did some sorta fighting to gain their independence....whilst Scotland did what?
isthatu  3 | 1164  
12 Jan 2008 /  #294
Maybe we have less interest in slaughtering people,I dont know,your point being?
Well ,Im not going any further with this,seem to remember that arguing with irish nationalists leads no where,I dont need the hassle of checking under my car every morning or removing all the litter bins from my local shopping center.....
osiol  55 | 3921  
12 Jan 2008 /  #295
I seem to remember at least the Irish took up arms...did some sorta fighting to gain their independence....whilst Scotland did what?

I didn't realise you were that old.

What did Scotland do? Be a part of Britain - just as much to blame for what Britain does as England.
The Scots vote in British elections you may have noticed. Have you seen how many cabinet ministers over the last few years have been Scottish? Gordon Brown is... um... (amongst other things) Scottish.
z_darius  14 | 3960  
12 Jan 2008 /  #296
Woohoo!
The first part of "divide and rule" is already taken care of. Now we only need a few more Poles in the UK and we'll have the first step to Poland's World domination behind.

Szczepan Brzęczyszczykiewicz for UK's Prime Minister!!!
Seanus  15 | 19666  
12 Jan 2008 /  #297
There is a growing movement within Scotland towards independence. Sup from the nipple? Decent, educated folk seem to know that the relationship is mutually beneficial and England sucks our udders too!! I have no qualms with that. I'm not gonna be too critical about the IRA as that would be misplaced. There was no easy solution there.
Frank  23 | 1183  
12 Jan 2008 /  #298
Maybe we have less interest in slaughtering people,I dont know,your point being?
Well ,Im not going any further with this,seem to remember that arguing with irish nationalists leads no where,I dont need the hassle of checking under my car every morning or removing all the litter bins from my local shopping center.....

No less than the English were to control, terrorise and intimidate local populaces over many centuries........on all continents and many countires......dont pull that one...!

Got no shame..??.and for your reference, was referring to the Irish War of Independence, or perhaps you would deny any country its right to self determination?

Britian was great...only in its own eyes.........
szkotja2007  27 | 1497  
12 Jan 2008 /  #299
Oh so much to comment on......
Frank, I cant believe some of your posts are your true views, I prefer to think you are being just a wee bit naughty ;-)

how many cabinet ministers over the last few years have been Scottish?

Because Labour would not have power if it wasn't for the Scottish support, have to keep them sweet.

What did Scotland do? Be a part of Britain

Sold out in 1707 by a few rogues. Referendum in 1979 was rigged. Polls showing majority now want independence.

seeing as Scotland continues to sup from the English nipple with no shame.

Frank being naughty.

who've had the last laff amongst the Celtic nations for some time.

True.

like the scottish economy built on sand.

Royal Bank Of Scotland CEO supports Independence financial debate.
osiol  55 | 3921  
12 Jan 2008 /  #300
the English

Would you care to comment on my new thread? I would be interested in your opinion.

polishforums.com/country_vs_nationality-16_18224_0.html

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