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going to uk to look for a cad job - are there any left?


chokoy  2 | 8  
18 Feb 2009 /  #1
i would like to get info from poles living in uk if there are still jobs to be found. i am doing cad and not thinking of doing manual labor. i searched the net and found that there's a considerable amount of cad job vacancies but don't know if they were true? do they priorities british people over eu?

thanks
wildrover  98 | 4430  
18 Feb 2009 /  #2
They shouldn,t do...if they are a good firm to work for then they will give the job to whoever is best for it , regardless of where they are from...and yes , if a job is advertised its available , no reason for anybody to advertise a job that does not exist....
DRJ  - | 11  
18 Feb 2009 /  #3
If you are going to come to the UK, just try to either come with a job offer, or with enough savings to get live until you do find a job. Maybe you could try applying for some of these Cad jobs whilst still in Poland and see if you get any replies. If you find that you are getting nowhere due to still being in Poland, you might have to take a different job here and continue to apply for cad jobs whilst in the UK.

and wildrover is correct, reputable firms should not discrimate based on anything (gender, nationality, sexuality, etc)
peter_olsztyn  6 | 1082  
18 Feb 2009 /  #4
i would like to get info from poles living in uk if there are still jobs to be found.

In fact I'm not living in UK at the moment but still looking for another job. It is difficult to find job by remote because you have to be available immediately for interview. You have to take competition into consideration too. They won't wait for you. The best way is to take any job in UK and then continue to apply for dream job.
pgtx  29 | 3094  
18 Feb 2009 /  #5
are there any left?

hihihi... probably not anymore...
;)
but good luck
PolskaDoll  27 | 1591  
18 Feb 2009 /  #6
There are probably plently of CAD job vacancies, there ususally is and I saw a few on the website linked 1job.co.uk/category.php/8193/London/66/Engineering%20Design%20-%20CAD so it's worth having a look. I think the person they would favour is the person who was qualified for the job, nationality doesn't come into it. Although, a good knowledge of the English language would.
ShelleyS  14 | 2883  
19 Feb 2009 /  #7
i would like to get info from poles living in uk if there are still jobs to be found. i am doing cad and not thinking of doing manual labor

Who knows, but since you're not in the UK it's highly unlikely you're going to get a CAD job here, it's not that specialised that they would consider you for a position whilst you are in a different country.

In fact I'm not living in UK at the moment but still looking for another job. It is difficult to find job by remote because you have to be available immediately for interview. You have to take competition into consideration too. They won't wait for you. The best way is to take any job in UK and then continue to apply for dream job.

True. But the "any" job category isn't as easy to get these days...

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7882745.stm
OP chokoy  2 | 8  
19 Feb 2009 /  #8
thanks all for the info. i applied last year and got few response. all requested that i contact them when i get to uk and that they won't be able to assist me if i am still in poland. however, that was last year before this sh_t crushed uk's economy. uk is going to host the next summer olympics and my experience would be beneficial should i find a company. thank you again.
Shawn_H  
19 Feb 2009 /  #9
no reason for anybody to advertise a job that does not exist....

In Canada, it happens all the time. Head hunting firms (placement agencies) will often drop a fictitious job on Workopolis / Monster in order to get interested candidates to send off their resume for the position. The agency then just files the received resumes in the hopes that when a real job comes along, they will have a good database of candidates to choose from. Quite disheartening.

Keep an eye out for "direct hire" type companies, ie. no Middlemen.

Networking, cold calling and conducting "informational interviews" are best however....
wildrover  98 | 4430  
19 Feb 2009 /  #10
In Canada, it happens all the time. Head hunting firms (placement agencies) will often drop a fictitious job on Workopolis

I think in UK it might not be legal to do that...but i am not sure on that...?
ShelleyS  14 | 2883  
19 Feb 2009 /  #11
It's common knowledge that they do this sweety....I'm not sure about the legalities, but it's just marketing and as Shawn said, it's a way bulking out their D/base and getting fresh candidates on the books.
Lir  
19 Feb 2009 /  #12
ou're not in the UK it's highly unlikely you're going to get a CAD job here

Why not ? I thought most jobs were open to EU citizens ?

Has this recently changed ?

i searched the net

Have a look at the job centre link and ask them, that maybe the best way forward ?

jobcentreplus.gov.uk/jcptext/Customers/index.html

Also, the site below may be of some use too.......key the option for UK as well for more information.

ec.europa.eu/eures/home.jsp?lang=en

:)
plk123  8 | 4119  
19 Feb 2009 /  #13
my guess is that the competition has gotten tight as of late and thus, if you're not in vicinity you're probably out of luck.
Lir  
19 Feb 2009 /  #14
my guess

I would expect if there are vacancies in the field the person is looking for then they are usually open to anyone from the EU.

Who knows, but since you're not in the UK it's highly unlikely you're going to get a CAD job here,

I was replying to what Shelley said. It shouldn't make any difference whether the person is physically in the UK at the moment or not.
plk123  8 | 4119  
19 Feb 2009 /  #15
it shouldn't but i think that's how it's working out.. i know these positions are open to anyone in EU but a local person has a better chance just because of their physical proximity... they can go for an interview anytime, etc.. locals will have the advantage in this market unless the person a company is seeking someone that is rare in their quals. right now it's definitely employers' market around the globe, in general.
OP chokoy  2 | 8  
19 Feb 2009 /  #16
thank you again for your replies. i will be trying my luck in the uk anyways. i remembered when i tried my luck in the US when the economy was down (2001) and got one. i guess i have to risk again.
Mister H  11 | 761  
19 Feb 2009 /  #17
i would like to get info from poles living in uk if there are still jobs to be found. i am doing cad and not thinking of doing manual labor. i searched the net and found that there's a considerable amount of cad job vacancies but don't know if they were true? do they priorities british people over eu?

My only knowledge of the industry you refer to is that CAD stands for "computer aided design", so I can't comment on specifics, however, I think that it would come down to how strong your CV is that will be what counts.

Any foreigner applying for such a job would have to have excellent English skills, both written and verbal, but that would be true of any job that isn't a McJob or shovelling sand on a building site.

I think they would want to know what your long-term plans were and whether or not you intended to stay in the UK. If you didn't plan to settle here, they might be put off hiring you as they might see it as a waste of their time and money.
OP chokoy  2 | 8  
19 Feb 2009 /  #18
i am planning to be in the uk for good. my experience in cad (8yrs) is mainly on the engineering design services of commercial and residential buildings (mostly MEP with archi.).

i just hope someone will be willing to look at my resume and understand what is written. i have had a bad experience with a recruiter mistakenly sending me to a company that utilises cad for car parts.
peter_olsztyn  6 | 1082  
19 Feb 2009 /  #19
If you didn't plan to settle here, they might be put off hiring you as they might see it as a waste of their time and money.

As distinct from Poland where kitchen porter has to have PhD and a working knowledge of two foreign languages, sometimes they don't hire you if you are overskilled for the position. They consider you will be unhappy at work and escape at the earliest opportunity.
Trevek  25 | 1699  
19 Feb 2009 /  #20
if a job is advertised its available , no reason for anybody to advertise a job that does not exist....

It used to be law that you have to advertise a job but it doesn't mean you can't fill the position internally. It's not unusual for firms to fill a position but still advertise.

I've also known ELT firms advertise just to get people to apply so they can contact them later. I crossed swords with one school on TEFL.com over that.
Mister H  11 | 761  
19 Feb 2009 /  #21
i am planning to be in the uk for good.

Fair enough.

Where do you want to live ? Visit that place and stay as long as you can and see if you can see yourself living there. A bit like a fact-finding mission.

Try and line up some interviews at least before you move.

Don't arrive on the fly and hope for the best.

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