gay guys in London seek surrogacy female

My partner and I already have a child with a female couple and they are the main care givers. We have a lot of contact with our son but would like a child of our own. I have been looking at surrogacy in the USA but have decided that I only want to do this in the UK. We aware that this is an expensive option. Can anyone provide any advice on how to find a surrogate in the UK?

leegrant@londoncbt.co.uk

Please go see a mental hygenicist to cure yourself of homosexuality. No society completely made of homosexuals can sustain itself. It will eventually become extinct. You clearly realize this by having to go outside your unnatural male-male union.

Mother Nature has given you every incentive to reproduce the natural way... through physical urges and being attracted to the opposite sex. The right thing to do is to bring those natural urges to the surface and bed-down with a woman the normal way. You will enjoy it, and you will genuinely be the father, and you will have a child to enjoy for many years... until the teenage years at least. At which point they don't want to be seen in public with you. LOL

HOMOPhob alert here!!! Think you need to step into the 21st century reality TBurk (interesting name by the way BURK) :) :)


He or She or IT even finds the time to LOL !!!

I don't think that gay couples should be allowed to adopt children. Does that make me a homophobe too?

Damn, I promise myself not to get provoked to engage in that kind of discussion. :)

I don't think that makes you homophobic Matyjasz, it's just your opinion. I'm not sure about it either and i'm certainly not. It is a huge debate in the UK at the moment.


By that i meant Homophobic not gay!! oh dear was that homophobic? i'll stop now i think...:)

It doesnt make you a homophob Maty
but is it gay males that cant have children adopted or otherwise or the female gay (lesbians) that cant or both??

Yes it is a debate at the minute here in the uk "catholic church vs state" age old debate the church and mp's wont allow it to happen.

In my opinion...you're gay....you aren't compatable with the opposite sex..why would you possibly want a child..that's what men and women do together. Maybe adopt an older child from africa...it's trendy :)

And I have no issues with that lifestyle, but I think raising a child in that environment wouldn't be right. Not to say that gay parent aren't fit to be parents, but a mommy and daddy are important to have.

Gay looking for a woman, now that's a pervert !

True.

I like that!!!
I agree with Fisz. Gays shouldn't have kids. It would probably be "normal" to have sex with a child because of their perverted view on sex.

Gays can be nice people, but their view is way off and they are not mentally healthy to raise a child.
What if they had a girl? Would they be taking her to men's bathrooms?
Children need both a mother and a father.

I agree with Krysia, because someone involved in one form of degeneracy is far more likely to involve themselves in yet another. BTW, sodomy is still a crime in many parts of the United States.

Spoken like a true Scissor Sister... that is a Lesbijka!


I meant this for telefonitika, what a strange name indeed!


:) :) :) :)

Ah, the wonderful world of selective discrimination from Krysia and co.
Good job guys. :)
If this had been uk_ spouting his usual trash about, oh lets say: Poles shouldn't have kids as they make bad parents, you'd have been all over him like a rash. But "uh oh" a gay guy asks a question about having a kid and suddenly, quicker than you can say turker baster, they'll be having sex with them and taking them into male toilets.


so I guess all the single parents out there are also doing a sh*t job? They'll be abusing their kids too? No? Didn't think so and guess what, I bet they wouldn't either!

Talk about bigotry.

I think that if *anyone* can provide a stable enviroment for a child then good luck to them, as hell fire, there are enough bad "normal," hetrosexual mothers and fathers out there.

I agree with you , and with them, my only beef with this post of wanting to
have a child is, there is proper ways to do it and not jump on a forum which
is clearly about Polish things. so how did they get to this site looking for a
serrogate mother?

they didnt ask for a polish serrogate mother, they posted they are living in london
and looking for one.

I would think that there are places /clinics what not that have people who
provide this. and in a more appropiate manner with screening and counseling
as well.

I have my own formed opinions which I would rather keep to myself but I do lean
more towards the mother/father traditional way of raising children because I think
this will confuse the child and there will be questions asked. how do things like that
get approached ? what effects does it have on other children who want to be
friends and the parents are against it? will the child feel isolated? discriminated
against growing up with gay parents? lots of things to think about that need
attention so that futures arent set up for disaster and or feeling of lonlyness and
if the schools will have problems with children becoming violent over this.

just alot of thought/thinking out to do before really taking the next step and alot to
do with community as well. Probably would look into things a bit further before taking
on such huge responsibility, physically and financially you might be prepared, but
mentally and emotionally you might not.

ok enough from Dr Patrycja. <~not.. lol

just my opinion.

Thanks.

well said, nothing to add on my side:)

Nothing against gays. I have a gay friend.
Let the gays have children, they can raise more gays. I don't care. Whatever.
Just love the kid and don't give it aids.

I have two gay friends who foster they have made a big difference to lives of children they have fostered....the points that have been made here a stupid, gay men are not going make children gay....pff

It really makes me wonder what people are actually thinking about sometimes...These two guys have been in a relationship for over 10 years and have a lot to give.

great story:)
I find that those little stories illustrate life much better that all those stereotypes we try to hold on too, since we need to hold onto something. Life is not simple:)

How do you know that ?

I happen to know a lesbian couple that have a daughter who is 12 and is very confused about what's right or wrong. Even after being told that there is no right or wrong, she still looks at her mom's and thinks that this how her life should be. So, I think it can have a negative effect.

Gays are not made, they are, its genetic

Mr F, if she is not attracted to women then she's not going to be lesbian, I think people are born the way they are. I do think that people should be more torlerent. In an ideal world there would be two parents, a mother and a father, but we dont live in a perfect ideal world.

Very true! But she'll have to figure it out on her own, which can take some time. So, it can be a frustrating confusing time for her.


Can say that again.

Says who ? Gay news ? Don't tell me that watching for years "2 daddies"... kissing each other and doing other disgusting sh*t won't affect a child.

no... but it might well make you a member of the catholic church...

this is fantastic... i go away for a day or two and the forum turns from a breeding ground for racist fanatics to a place where we can all happily spout our homophobic views...

wonderful... this is a tolerant forum which accepts all forms of bigotry... just as long as we dont express any concerns about american foreign policy... in which case censorship will be applied and dubya's boys will be round for a visit...

:) :) :)

Hmmmm, dont fight it Mr G, it must be difficult for you in Poland and living in the closet but times are a changing...:)

Who says you can't? I'm an American and I can care less what anyone thinks about my government or their policies.

What ?

damn...i think she's calling you gay.

Which means the drug addicts and alcoholics and mentally ill people can raise kids as well.

Pueberty is a tough and confusing time for all kids, and perhaps it can be harder for kids with gay parents. But, there's also the kid who's dad gets drunk and beats up mom everynight or the mom who's having an affair with the gardener....etc, etc. I think those kids are much less likely to have their parents sit down and explain to them how and why their family is different than most. Gay families are almost obligated to discuss intimate relationships, in a way heterosexual families generally aren't... and often don't.

Is that a bad thing? Actually, maybe it's not. How messed up are most young people about sex these days? It's become almost taboo for parents to talk about inimate relationships and sex with their kids. Kids are left to "figure it out" on their own. If they are told anything usually it's of ideals their parents may not even live up to, let alone people their own age. Many people get so concerned with what others might think that they neglect honesty with the ones they love, even themselves.

These days families are so different and face so many challenges just to stay together, that I don't believe the privledge to turn away potentially caring, loving parents exists any more. The traditional family is quickly becoming a myth in this days world and it's not going to change back, something new must be born an nurtured. I don't think we can afford to be so picky, as to blindly refuse gay families from raising children. Personally, I'm more concerned with pedophiles, rapists, murderers, exploiters, etc. being able to raise families than I ever could be about homosexual, interracial, handicapped, or underprivleged couples having children. It seems much more productive to be honest with ourselves and work on developing new traditions and ideas of family, than to sit around and mourn and glorify the past, saying "things were better when...". Why not value a family based on how loving, harmonious, and supportive it is; rather than the characteristics of it's individual members?

Many people say, "but we have so many problems already, why add to them?"
But it's already there, homosexuality is about as likely to go away as pre-marital sex. I think that acknowleding gay families may well be a path to resolving some of these challenges facing society.

As far as kids getting teased in school goes, isn't there always something? I went to a predominately "white" school and I got ruthlessly teased for being "too white". Go figure.

/end rant :-)

Oh, and yes the original "gay guys in london" were idiots to post something like that here. But, unfortunately, idiots seem to come in all forms.