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Belfast Telegraph won't print my comment.


Seanus  15 | 19666  
11 Jul 2009 /  #31
In what way? They tag you as Catholic or?
OP Del boy  20 | 254  
11 Jul 2009 /  #32
what you think?
I am proud we have a catholic majority and?
Seanus  15 | 19666  
11 Jul 2009 /  #33
Why are you a Lutheran? What appeals to you in that faith?
time means  5 | 1309  
11 Jul 2009 /  #34
who is we? its not even your country.
Barney  17 | 1672  
11 Jul 2009 /  #35
He is talking about Poland having a Catholic majority
OP Del boy  20 | 254  
11 Jul 2009 /  #36
I was born as such, but we have an other kind of diversity in deviding people
time means  5 | 1309  
11 Jul 2009 /  #37
In Poland I am a Pole

born there as such? come on don't go all american on me.
OP Del boy  20 | 254  
11 Jul 2009 /  #38
In Ireland you have a catholic and protestant, they both support Ireland
ShelleyS  14 | 2883  
12 Jul 2009 /  #39
Depends if you're talking about the Prods that bang on about being British..

Not sure why you brought religion in to either..You're an outsider so why get in to the politics of Ireland, you dont really have any business doing so. Sorry to sound harsh but its the truth. We have a saying in England, never get in to discusisons about politics and relgion, it only causes arguments.
Seanus  15 | 19666  
12 Jul 2009 /  #40
Shelley has a point, Delboy. You can't waltz into another country and start telling them what's what. Locals have enough of a problem doing that and they can vote.

How would Tusk feel if I bombarded him with all manner of letters on his governance?
aphrodisiac  11 | 2427  
12 Jul 2009 /  #41
there are many reasons why newspapers will not publish your contributions.

You're an outsider so why get in to the politics of Ireland, you dont really have any business doing so. Sorry to sound harsh but its the truth. We have a saying in England, never get in to discusisons about politics and relgion, it only causes arguments.

that is harsh. He has the right to do whatever he wants to do Shell, we live in a free world, unless this has been my understanding.

I have rocked the boat many times with papers (had comments printed) and I am happy about it, so I don't agree with you;).

That is how things change, slowly but surely.
Seanus  15 | 19666  
12 Jul 2009 /  #42
That's a cliche and inaccuracy, aphrodisiac. We don't live in a free world at all and I could write 5 books on why not.

Freedoms are rarely absolute.
aphrodisiac  11 | 2427  
12 Jul 2009 /  #43
That's a cliche and inaccuracy

no, it is not. I cannot reveal the details. If people do not speak up, or voice their opinion, it will get even worse.

We don't live in a free world at all and I could write 5 books on why not.

fair enough, but I still believe that we should be able to express certain things, I always do and I don't feel constrained in any way.

Freedoms are rarely absolute.

That is a cliche on your part.

I think your post is more personal than you would like to admit.
Barney  17 | 1672  
12 Jul 2009 /  #44
Shelly its really unavoidable here especially if you are trying to understand where you are so that you can integrate.
ShelleyS  14 | 2883  
12 Jul 2009 /  #45
that is harsh. He has the right to do whatever he wants to do Shell, we live in a free world, unless this has been my understanding.

I understand what you are saying completely, but NI is a completely different kettle of fish and its hard enough for the locals that live there that have to put up with with the sh^t that goes on, without someone form the outside complaining and thinking they can change something that has being going on since adam was a lad.

That is how things change, slowly but surely.

Things have moved on but there are still underlying problems that only the Irish can sort out between themselves and some foreigner complaining about the situation over there will just anger most people. You have to understand the Irish mentality to understand the situation and outsiders do not nor will they ever understand, because they havent lived with the situation for hundreds of years.

We don't live in a free world at all and I could write 5 books on why not.

Ironically we are "given" freedom, whats fee about what someone choses to give us?

Shelly its really unavoidable here especially if you are trying to understand where you are so that you can integrate.

I completely appreciate that, but you know as well as I do, it is up to IRISH people to sort out these problems and outside interference isnt viewed well.
OP Del boy  20 | 254  
12 Jul 2009 /  #46
. We don't live in a free world at all

Is that mean that I have to **** off PSNI if we are talking about justice?
NI is a rasist country and I am not talking about minorities
ShelleyS  14 | 2883  
12 Jul 2009 /  #47
NI is a rasist country and I am not talking about minorities

You really dont get it do you....Like I said you dont understand Ireland...If you hate it so much, go back to Poland, who of course are not at all racist.

We get told time and time again, that we do understand the "reality" of Poland, well, DB, you do not understand the reality of Ireland.
SeanBM  34 | 5781  
12 Jul 2009 /  #48
Is it just me or does this whole thread make no sence?.

Del boy, sent the on line news paper a comment "that prods should burn in hell", they didn't print it.

Who cares?.

Now youz are all talkin about what, Justice, freedom of the press, your right to speak your mind, out side influences?.
I don't get it, more likely there is nothing to get.
aphrodisiac  11 | 2427  
12 Jul 2009 /  #49
I understand what you are saying too. The problem is that we really don't know what DelBoy was referring to when he commented. It is out of context and I would not say anything final unless I know all the details. COme on.
Seanus  15 | 19666  
12 Jul 2009 /  #50
Yes, we should be able to express certain things. As a libertarian, I believe in this. Still, it's freedom of speech within reason. Freedom of association within reason. I could go on but you get the picture.

I encourage people to speak up, don't get me wrong on that.

More personal? What do you mean?

True, Shelley, freedom is constrained by many pieces of legislation.

Delboy, I'm just saying that they deal with things differently and don't always play ball but you can't waltz in and expect changes. They are rigid sometimes.
ShelleyS  14 | 2883  
12 Jul 2009 /  #51
I don't get it, more likely there is nothing to get.

Its a Polish person complaining about Poles were treated badly in another country. Religion was brought in to because naturally there is the history with Ireland and the Catholics and the Prody Dogs....As I said earlier, if you dont like it dont read it.

I'll tell you about freedom of speech and news papers, 99.9% of letters that get sent in by the public generally get a good laugh in the office, then bined..that .1% that gets in the paper usually gets in there depending on how the editor is feeling, how do I know? Ive just finished a 12 month contract working for a national news paper. So if I were you, I wouldnt waste my time writing a letter in the first place.
SeanBM  34 | 5781  
12 Jul 2009 /  #52
I don't think so, the whole thing was they wouldn't post his comment "that prods should burn in hell" and then he said he was protestant Lutheran.

Then everyone started talking about something else.

Ah, I am done with this thread.
OP Del boy  20 | 254  
12 Jul 2009 /  #53
shilley,
I cant remember a guy, probably Alex Talksville ( just cant remember surname of a magnificant guy ). He was a French intelectualist, went to USA in XVIII c watching American democracy.I am only Eastern European but have the same observations to do in NI in XXIc. The problem is NI is far far bahind USA in XVIII.
aphrodisiac  11 | 2427  
12 Jul 2009 /  #54
I am familiar with Alex, but there is no way in hell I am going to discuss politics on Saturday.

Fuc* it.

Toodles:)
ShelleyS  14 | 2883  
12 Jul 2009 /  #55
The problem is NI is far far bahind USA in XVIII.

Thats your opinion. You feel intent on trashing NI, thats your choice, but remember, they are giving you a living that you couldnt get in Poland, so evidently not as far behind as you think.
OP Del boy  20 | 254  
12 Jul 2009 /  #56
no Shelly,I live of my hardly earned cash, no fricking benefits, and I dont do any poject at the moment.
commercial project, I have in mind
ShelleyS  14 | 2883  
12 Jul 2009 /  #57
no Shelly,I live of my hardly earned cash, no fricking benefits, and I dont do any poject at the moment.

I didnt mention benefits sweety, I just said you earn a living in NI and not in Poland hence the reason you are in NI and not Poland..Im not really having a go at you, I really am not, I just dont get why you are getting so mad about some paper not publishing you letter, see post 91
OP Del boy  20 | 254  
12 Jul 2009 /  #58
Sweety ? are you trying to be a smart ass?
seanus geting hard cash in Poland, same Sean and many more posters ( wroclaw and so on )
so go on give me more shite that I am inferior
niejestemcapita  2 | 561  
12 Jul 2009 /  #59
I am inferior

Nobody said that, except you..:)
OP Del boy  20 | 254  
12 Jul 2009 /  #60
niejestemcapita,
sorry just feck off this thread at the moment

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