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"Angry swan eater" - The British media view of Polish immigrants?


Mister H 11 | 761  
27 Sep 2008 /  #31
(Disclaimer: I don't look for fight. Just asking a question)

Firstly, I think I owe you an apology as I was in a VERY bad mood the other night (I won't bore you with the reasons why) and you caught the brunt of it.

While I stand by what I said, I should have phrased it much better, so I'm sorry.

With regards to the "myth, urban legend" situation, it just comes down to being entitled to things much quicker than I think is fair. Also, as I work and don't qualify (not that I would want to anyway really) for benefits, council housing, free prescriptions etc I do see myself as being treated purely as tax revenue to pay for the benefits of others.

I work next door to a job centre/benefits office and I see most days a real collection of people trooping in and out of there and many are foreigners pushing kids in buggies. I'm no language expert, so I don't know if they're Polish or not, but some will be I'm sure. Yes, there are also plenty of British people there and I think that's just as bad (if not worse) as they drag the rest of us down too.

I see the country being treated as a cash-cow and somewhere you go if you want an easy ride.

So they are entitled to council housing, no problem at all! :-O

It's situations just like this that I have a problem with.

For a start, as much as I want you to be able to work, the money it must cost for places like this paying for interpreters is getting out of hand. The money has to come from somewhere.

I've said this before, if someone needs an interpreter then I don't see what use they will be. Their job prospects are so limited for a start, but also I think it's very dangerous to have so many non-English speakers in the country.

What would they do if they saw someone collapse in the street and they were the only person around to dial 999 ? Would they need an interpreter for that too ?

Whether or not the family you mention had "indefinite leave to remain", the fact that this couple are relying on a welfare system they've not really be paying into means that they shouldn't get help.

If he is not working and she has just arrived and also not working, how will they pay the rent on the council house anyway ?

But you have your nicey-nice politicians to blame, I'm afraid...

Yes, very much so :-(
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
22 Sep 2009 /  #32
Many of us don't give a Castlemaine XXXX what the British media thinks but this thread seems to have potential and it'll expose who reads the papers and who doesn't.
Mister H 11 | 761  
23 Sep 2009 /  #33
Whether or not the family you mention had "indefinite leave to remain", the fact that this couple are relying on a welfare system they've not really be paying into means that they shouldn't get help.

I know this won't make much difference to the Polish and other citizens of EU countries, but it's my understanding that 'indefinite leave to remain' has been scrapped.

Those who are living here with such a status on a foreign, non-EU passport will have to apply for British citizenship when it expires or leave.

I think this is the Government's way of quietly accepting that their immigration policies have failed, but they can't throw out people from Poland and so on, so they're starting with non-EU citizens instead.

Many of us don't give a Castlemaine XXXX what the British media thinks but this thread seems to have potential and it'll expose who reads the papers and who doesn't.

Although there is a lot of rubbish written on the internet, their is a lot of sense as well. I hope Gordon Brown spends some of his downtime reading its content.

As for the papers, we'd all get much further if they weren't around. They just stir the pot to cause trouble and to hell with any consequences.
RevokeNice 15 | 1,859  
23 Sep 2009 /  #34
I thought it was the Litho's who ate the oul swans? :)
Mister H 11 | 761  
23 Sep 2009 /  #35
Don't know about that, but it was a couple of Lituanian chaps that fitted my new shower.

They didn't mention swans and were nice guys in general, although one did spit in the street while he had a smoke break.....yuk !

Their English was pretty dire though and that alone put me off ever using them again, although I couldn't fault their actual work. Cost wise, they were cheaper than the quotes I got from some others, but not by that much in the end.
RevokeNice 15 | 1,859  
23 Sep 2009 /  #36
Don't know about that,

Well somebody is, they didnt all vanish. I live in Tallaght near Blessingthon lakes. There used to be literally thousands of swans in the lake. That number has halfed and they have now employed a security guard just to patrol the lakes. I wonder why........
SeanBM 35 | 5,808  
23 Sep 2009 /  #37
Don't take it personally RN, just because your avatar is a swan.
RevokeNice 15 | 1,859  
23 Sep 2009 /  #38
I like swans. Who is eating them?
SeanBM 35 | 5,808  
23 Sep 2009 /  #39
I like swans.

Do you like chickens, cows, pigs?
Who is eating them?
RevokeNice 15 | 1,859  
23 Sep 2009 /  #40
Me, and half the western world.

Do you like chickens, cows, pigs?

No, they are part of the food chain.

Who is eating our swans? My money is on one of the slav or baltic sub groups.
sledz 23 | 2,250  
23 Sep 2009 /  #41
Swan isnt bad with a fine Chianti :)
BritishEmpire - | 148  
23 Sep 2009 /  #42
I am a Polish guy living in London.

Do you realise how difficult it is for me to even care?

I work in a busy A&E, so when co-workers are rude to me I instantly think to myself, how much damage could i do to this person! Not healthy but effective!

I wonder if you ever think of how much damage your co-workers could do to you if they got fed up with your rambo attitude.
RevokeNice 15 | 1,859  
23 Sep 2009 /  #43
BritishEmpire

Is there any hard evidence of Poles or other eastern euopeans catching and eating swans in the UK? There is here.
BritishEmpire - | 148  
23 Sep 2009 /  #44
carp is another one that they like to get they're hands on, the little bast*rds tried to nick some from our local club lake and got a right beating for their efforts.

Infact many waters are now banning them all together.
I think there has been some recorded cases in the cities revoke but it was a while ago.
RevokeNice 15 | 1,859  
23 Sep 2009 /  #45
carp is another one that they like to get they're hands on, the little bast*rds tried to nick some from our local club lake and got a right beating for their efforts.

Yes, believe it or not the eastern europeans eat carp for Christmas dinner. Around Christmas time there, local outdoor markets sell carp from large basins. Stuff sells like crack rock in Harlem.

Carp Soup for starters.
Then potato salad and carp for mains.
Some homemade cake for desert.

I had to eat this over in Prague one December. Horrendous stuff.

I believe they pillaged the lakes of Ireland for this delicacy in Ireland too.
Paulie 1 | 43  
23 Sep 2009 /  #46
Carp

An anagram for something else perhaps?
ShawnH 8 | 1,508  
23 Sep 2009 /  #47
cake for desert.

Got a recipe for Carp Cake?
RevokeNice 15 | 1,859  
23 Sep 2009 /  #48
An anagram for something else perhaps?

Probably. I will tell you this, I enjoyed my Turkey with all the trimmings that Christmas.

Got a recipe for Carp Cake?

The thoughts of that are hideous.
Eurola 4 | 1,906  
23 Sep 2009 /  #49
A swan is just a glamorized goose..and a roasted goose tastes great. Besides, there is a bucket of fat leftover. It can be used to fry many pork chops you know... :)
RevokeNice 15 | 1,859  
23 Sep 2009 /  #50
A swan is just a glamorized goose..and a roasted goose tastes great.

Touch our swans and you will get a reaction.

One country that is very respectful of their natural wildlife, is Ireland. What you slavs do at home, is your own business. Eat each other for all I care.

When in our countries, play by our rules and traditions. We have given you a chance of a much better life, yet all we get in return is constant abuse of our system and disrespect.
Eurola 4 | 1,906  
23 Sep 2009 /  #51
Not much of a chance I guess, if immigrants are eating swans? Yes?
Or is it just a fabricated Irish urban tale?
Paulie 1 | 43  
23 Sep 2009 /  #52
Not content with just swans, those dastardly Slavs have milked, cooked and eaten the Celtic Tiger. Whatever next?
Eurola 4 | 1,906  
23 Sep 2009 /  #53
cooked and eaten the Celtic Tiger

lol. Loch Ness Monster is next! (not Ireland, but who cares?)
djf 18 | 166  
23 Sep 2009 /  #54
I believe they pillaged the lakes of Ireland for this delicacy in Ireland too

There are no carp native to Ireland. The very few carp in Irish waters were illegally introduced and you certainly couldnt delibrately fish for them. So that statement is pure gowno prawda.
OsiedleRuda  
23 Sep 2009 /  #55
shaven head, camouflage trousers, backpack (containing dead swan)

Don't forget the unbranded plastic carrier bag (usually blue), containing at least 8 cans of beer and nothing else :D

According to the British newspapers I AM:

The thing is, there is at least some truth in that. The problem is, it doesn't matter where you're from, the same applies. You could just as easily subsitute "Paki/African/Black/Nigerian/Muslim/Slovak Gypsy, etc" for "Polish", but the media wouldn't dare. Poles are an easy target because they are white mostly-Catholic Europeans.
PolskaDoll 28 | 2,104  
23 Sep 2009 /  #56
play by our rules and traditions

If you want a project for the day then use Google and pull up all the stories of animal cruelty in the UK and Ireland since 2004. You will find that a very high majority of these cruelty offenses are committed by natives.

Trouble is, the Daily Mail doesn't plaster these all over the front page (unless it is to their advantage) but a couple of swans get eaten and wooeee! Stop the press! Shocking journalism.
SeanBM 35 | 5,808  
23 Sep 2009 /  #57
pull up all the stories of animal cruelty in the UK and Ireland since 2004.

Sure we should have put RN to sleep, it would be the humane thing to do.

"Angry swan eater" - The British media view of Polish immigrants?

What is it with swans? a lot of people eat chicken, pig and cow.
Did a very clever swan trick you all in to believeing there was something more special about them than a chicken?
Baked Swan
Old Elizabethan Recipe
elizabethan-era.org.uk/bake-swan-old-recipe.htm

Must be a fashion thing with you guys.
Ziemowit 13 | 4,259  
23 Sep 2009 /  #58
Polish swan eater - is it for real or is it for fun? I just can't figure out ... did the British catch any Poles catching swans? Has anyone been taken to court or fined for that?
SeanBM 35 | 5,808  
23 Sep 2009 /  #59
Polish swan eater - is it for real

No it was just a wild goose chase.
frd 7 | 1,399  
23 Sep 2009 /  #60
Sorry guys, I was really, really hungry.. couldn't resist this little cuddle of white delight.. I ate the poor swan in front of confused bypassers in Hyde Park.. had 2 squirrels for a snack later..

hmm I think they haven't noticed these squirrels yet..

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