Krakow going down the toilet!

Why,drunks of any nation are generally fools,its really not worth opening another thread is it :)

Drunks are often fools, true enough.

...and fools are often drunks.

If you take the drunks away, what are you left with, just fools???

Oh sorry - I thought you were talking about language schools. Carry on.

The reason you don't see hen nights in Poland is because stags are often there looking for cheap prostitutes, whereas women usually find cheap male prostitutes in places like Jamaica.

So they travel to Jamaica from Great Britain for a hen's party?

Somebody has to finally clean the mess. Make the busturds eat and drink what they vomiited out and pissed. That should help.

Nah, it's typically pairs of divorcees in their 50s and 60s rather than hens in their 20s and 30s. Tunisia is popular too - lots of attention from toy-boy waiters looking for a meal ticket or visa.

Didn't prince Charles visit Kraków few days ago? Talking about Kraków going down the toilet. ;)

Indeed, but no mention of Charlie Boy and the horse-faced one visiting a strip club, or enjoying a few pints at the Bull pub.

Royal vomit and **** must be a pleasure.

I am going to visit Karlowe Wary this summer. Any suggestion on where to stay?

I live in Warsaw but went recently on a two-day business trip to Kraków. (Actually my wife is from Rabka so I know the city well :) )

I stayed in Kazimierz where it was on a weekday very peaceful at night. No stag idiots around at that moment.

Is that sh*it still there ? Or weaker GBP chased them out ?

Try searching for Poland hotels and you will find out.

.. except for the fact that Karlove Vary is a place in Czech Republic :-)
You can probably find some info here: hotel4you.cz

I have just found the forum. I am someone who lived in Krakow, before the "Easy Jet Brigade" arrived, and go back at least twice a year. I totally agree with you the behaviour of the "stag nighters" is disgraceful. I often apologise to my polish friends and explain that this really is not typical British behaviour, and they would not do half the things that they do in Krakow in their own country.

Yes I love to party and love a great time, however the behaviour of the" stag nighters" makes me feel ashamed to be British and I find myself apologising all the time. However, it does not stop there it overspills to Balice airport, and the party starts all over again,in the airport and on the plane by drunken a.... h..... regardless if there are children on board or not the, the F word is used in rapid succession. I have lost count the amount of times I have told these "stag nighters" that bare bottoms and beer are not acceptable on the dance floor!

Well, you should no apologise - I'm a Polish in the UK and I never apologise for bad behaviour of my compatriots here (e.g. Boruc's antics) - they're not ME, they're THEM.

Sorry, but by judging by the state of some of these "stag nighters", they can hardly negotiate their way to their hotel let alone contemplate a night of unadulterated passion!!

Surely things are getting better, as some of the flights to Krakow have either been reduced or withdrawn....

Someone else should pi*s on them when I'm not present...

Have to say when I was in Krakow last year, there were many places around the Old Town and the Square with signs saying 'No British Stag Parties'. Its a shame, because while I was there, I met a group of lovely Scottish blokes looking very lost as nowhere would let them in. Soon as they had a girl with them, we were welcomed, and they behaved themselves all night, even walking me home to my apartment near the Square. They knew I had a boyfriend, so weren't going to get lucky. Maybe it was an age thing - almost all were in their mid/late twenties, and were married with kids. The stag was the last of the group to take the plunge.

That said, I also met another group of stags who were abusive and rude on a Saturday afternoon, in the Square, and were scaring off the other trade with their antics. I stupidly had a go at them, telling them their mothers would be ashamed. One more sober guy actually agreed, and took them back to their hostel (where I suspect more pathetic behaviour continued).

Its a mixture of age, attitude, manners and upbringing.


No, its ROAR - right of access reserved. And there are places in the UK were groups of men are also denied entry too...


Maybe if thats what they were doing it would be fine. But when you're being loud and abusive, swearing, usually while making pathetic and disgusting graphic attempts to pick up girls that just want to be left in peace, thats when you get locals upset. In any country.


I believe it could be called either preventative or evasive action... Don't let them in, then trouble can't start. Admittedly a flawed theory because you can't guarantee the behaviour of the other customers, but when your nationality has gained a reputation for certain behaviour - not just in Poland but many other countries - you can only blame your fellow countrymen. That, and some of your media companies. I lost track of the 'Britains Biggest Boozers Abroad' type programs I watched back home... and I have to admit to most extents, they are an exageration. However, I have also noticed that often when I am travelling through Europe, people are suspicious until I say, 'No I'm not British'.. and then they all seem to have a terrible story to tell me about British and drinking. Much along the lines of Germans and beach towels.

Its a shame because 1% of Brits having a good time become awful drunks, and spoilt it for the rest of you.


Fair enough. But could they all try and do it without upsetting or offending anyone else? 99% of Brits achieve - why should the other 1% be allowed to muddy the British reputation?


Actually if we just established that wherever you are, home or abroad, no matter what your nationality, you can have a good time, but show respect and consideration to all, we'd be on to a winning formula.

Somehow I'm not holding out much hope.


I'm neither Polish or British, but I do feel shame and the need to apologise for some of the almighty stupid things my fellow countrymen do. And a certain amount of pride whenever we do something brilliant...

I think that I may have over generalised the word "stag nighters". I like Lisa have met some wonderful male "stag nighters" in my various escapades in Krakow, they have been true gentlemen, really funny and great to be around. I suppose it is the a.... h... element I am talking about, that spoil it for the rest of the stag people in Krakow. I remember saying to one party of stag nighters "why did you bring that little s... with you", because he was obnoxious and smart and basically thought he was great, and the reply was "he wanted to come with us". It only takes one to tarnish the reputation of the stag nighters.

I apologise for my over generalisation, it was wrong what I should have said "never bring a little s... on a stag night party, it spoils it for the all the rest" that should be be slogan than goes out to every tourist operator in every high street. It's always the same the minority spoil it for the majority.

They wrecked Prague, this all started in 2001, I was living in Prague at the time then suddenly during my evening coffee in Old Town Square, I heard ole ole ole ole, I looked over and their were about 10 or more guys with football shirts on " What is it with the football shirts anyway"? they were hurling abuse at the waiters on the terrace... I thought to myself, well here is the end of the quiet relaxing place that I had enjoyed for almost 1 year. The cheap flights were distroying the place. I noticed also over the past couple of years that Krakow and Gydnia/Gdansk has gone in a similar way, luckily I can remember it when it was a better place to spend time.

Prague before 2001.Dark,rotten buildings,old monuments full of smoke.
Prague now.Lights,renovated buildings,monuments sparkling.
Prague before:No cafes,very few restaurants,mostly pubs.
Prague now.Vibrant,full of cafes,excellent restaurants.
The same in Krakow.

Let's face it.These tourists,primitive or not bring in the money.However the old atmosphere and the girls...what a disaster.

I'm really shocked about Kraków! I have never been to Poland and was planning to visit Kraków with my fiance however, i'm starting to wonder now if this is such a good idea! I've spoken to a guy in my Polish class who doesn't recommend Warsaw so i'm at a loss as what part(s) of Poland to explore first!

I was in Krakow in August and had a really lovely holiday. The city was clean and the people really friendly and helpful. There's lots to do and see so I would highly recommend going there. :-)

A good point that people would rather ignore i think. I remember about 4 years ago walking around Krakow and thinking this place 'could' look great with a bit of tlc. Market sq has always looked good but the rest wasnt well maintained at all. The area around the railway station was grim.

Boy what 4 years does! That area is now real nice with the Galeria coming in. Real estate prices shot up, and people started finally taking care of some of their buildings. Its getting much better.