Foreigners: Please don't buy Polish Land!

ignorant bitter racist biggot or not, i think most people saw ola for what she was

a twat

I don't think you actually realise how crazy some people actually are -

having comments from the likes of Ola may to some represent freespeech but to some people its incitement to commit a racist act - some idiot decides hes angry with a foreign apartment owner and burns the apartment - in his defence he says that Polish forums gave him the idea - alot of people have shown experience of the US - this website could be blamed for giving racists a free voice - in my own opinion the site allows this for Gerry springer style effect, again not good, for the promotion of the site, in fairness Ola's comments got alot of hits, but the website is leaving itself wide open - this site has not a hope of ever getting an advertiser or ever becoming anything except a place for lunatics who like to promote racist debate for fun. Some people will not stop at speech and people are likely to do anything. When I have time I will post some cases in the US.

Its a serious area to be dealing with and if one person was beaten up or one incident happened because some crazy lunatic felt supported by the opinions on this site - I think the moderators would have alot to answer for.

Deal in facts people - if ola can back up her argument with a valid statistic then its not the ramblings of some lunatic and the website is clear - right now the people who run this site are taking responsibility for every racist remark - thats a lot of responsibilty in essence Olas opinions become theirs.

Censorship has nothing to do with it - nothing whatso ever - if you want the right to say what you want on a public website someone has to take responsibility and its not Ola and Bolek, its this website.

Give us a break from the sensationalist rubbish - this site has potential but you need to put in some research and have some facts to be taken in any way seriously - i think you are undermining your own potential by giving lunatics a voice, you are every bit as bad as they are and freedom of speech has nothing whatso ever to do with it.

my 10cents worth, 'opinions are like ******** everone has one'

Be careful is all i am saying - I would not like to have blood on my hands.

MKDsp

Should we close this topic. as comments may offend, lets stick to the weather!

I'm sick of people hiding under a cover and just complain.. who are you by the way...

Did Miranda cut & run! is Ola doing a Tombola?.
Irrespective they both liked a long one.... this thread made little sense with the ramblings of bitter conceited P. P .P. (Potatoe Picking Poles) who think the World owe's them a lot more. Count your blessings i have 3 Houses in Poland and employ Poles as a cook, gardener. and general runabout.

Lie down or Uncle Tom will give you a good Whupping followed by the bacon grease.

[quote=bolek]Should we close this topic. as comments may offend, lets stick to the weather!

the topic should be managed - their is a actually content here its just not dealt with very well - you have brains use them and be more creative and factual. Jerry springer would never air a show without having his lawyers go through it with a fine tooth comb to check if their is any liability - once the risk of liability is gone then advertisers get on board and you have one hell of a powerful media product.

sensationalism works but and every media resource in the world uses it but it sure as hell has to be managed.

is all im saying!!!

Being British i am prepared to offer you a job on my Polish estate as Head Ploughman.

I am also prepared to supply a horse to pull the Plough.

This is the 21st Century you cretin.

I suggest you employ a security guard instead..

Any transaction need to have a buyer and a SELLER!!! What you are saying suggest that foreigners come to Poland to force those people to sell them their properties. If those Poles who actually have properties to sell have the same opinion like those who don't own anything because they were born unfortunate, there will not be anything for you to complaint about.

By the way, just another 3 poles asking me to buy some apartments, they said they needed the cash and would give a good discount. If the price is good, I will again buy them and wait for the price go higher than sell them, that's what called investment. What can you do about it??

Half your luck, I think a lot of poles will be selling out and coming out at a loss. Poles just rub their hands and smile when they hear a foreigner is interested in purchasing their real estate.. greed works both ways.

Getting back to topic, you don't have to be boy genius to work out that foreigners have bumped up real estate prices in Poland, good for a few, bad for the majority.

Which is why I delegated buying our house to my girlfriend and their family. Still, our offer was 10% over asking price. The seller got 5x the value of her mortgage and we got a house an 2.5ha for a very good price.

Well if you don't have to be a genius to work out that foreigners have driven up the price of real estate in Poland, why don't you spend a halfhour on line and get a valid statistic to back up your point, if its so true and obvious then its obvious that you can find validation for this point

I for one would take you a hell of alot more seriously!!!

you dont have to be a boy genius to work out you have no idea what youre talking about

Hello. I am English and from England I actually find alot of these comments quite insulting.

You say that English people buy up all of your land but infact its mostly the Americans, Canadians and the Irish.

Actual English is but a small minority.

Also you have to look at something else, how many of these English companies give the Polish jobs and how many Polish people are in England?

There was a survey done throughout the UK and it actually turns out that over 20% of the UK is populated by Polish people.

Also the fact that these people are buying this land, actually increases Polish economy hence in the near future Polish salaries and job availability will increase.

But everyone is entitled to there own points of view.

Necramancer


You are suggesting there are 12M Poles in the UK? [20% of UK population of 60+ M]

Think you have been sold a BNP myth there.

ola , the polish come here to work and do so but there money mostly goes back to plso of all the imputs in uk pl,s are better if you dont like capitalists move to where they do. do knock it till you have tried it

You may be correct Mr Winkski but I am right on this issue, yes if I knew what I was talking about I would be a millionaire and living the good life, I would have no time being on this forum.

Since word of a EU, the price of real estate has increased in Poland and has done so till some 12 months ago, its a fact. A lot of people has cashed in and done pretty well at the expense of the Poles.

Ola is to be congratulated for making her point of view.

Mr Winkski, I sure forum members would like more imput from you as you seem to know everything, why not register and let us know who you are, overwise you may be mistaken for a troll!

Access to money has driven the market much more than foreign investment or English investment, in otherwords more polish people have the money to buy apartments. If lots of Polish people all want to buy the same apartments what does the developer do, he in creases the price -

think about it Bolek - if you had 100 bottles of water and 200 people desperately wanted to buy your water and you were a greedy bastard and your Polish government had no laws to stop you increasing the price of water to any level you please and people were so desperate to have water that they were willing to sign away 25years of their lives and monthly income to pay for that water, you would see an opportunity to make alot of money and you would charge excessively for your water.

You would you know!!!

Many foreigners were burned quite badly in Poland because they bought apartments in the more exclusive concept developments sold by other foreigners and aimed at the outside market, these highly over priced apartments have decreased in value now - which should make you very happy and many of the people are so short of cash that they will offload them for 3/4 or half of what they paid for them, which means good deals at the expense of foreigners for the Polish.

So as we say in Ireland, 'its an ill wind that does not blow somebody good'

Oh that it was so simple to really believe that the problems of increases residential prices could be blamed on foreigners -

I do however think it pleases your little heart to truly believe this, not good for you in the end of the day because the real people you should be blaming are off the hook because you and Ola refuse to deal in facts and like a drowning man just want to hold tight to your small minded opinions.

Hitler had his small minded opinions too and look what happened. he blamed the jews for all the woes of post world war Germany.

Isn't this exactly what happened in Ireland during the boom-years of the Celtic Tiger? Isn't this the reason why Ireland nowadays is one of the most expensive countries to live in? With the difference that the Irish government is even more greedier than its citizens?

Famous example: a boat full of bananas comes from Africa and docks in Dublin harbour, where it unloads half of it's cargo. Then it leaves for France where it unloads the other half of its cargo. Same bananas, same ship, same shippers etc, only a shorter trip to Ireland than to France. And in the end nobody is able to explain why the same bananas are more than twice as expensive in Ireland than in France. (Kg bananas in France: 1,50E, in Ireland 3,50E). True story.

M-G (rip-off Ireland)

Foreigners: Please don't buy Polish Land!

LEAVE POLAND ALONE!

She's got to make a YouTube video as well..and cry out loud: LEAVE POLAND ALOOONE!!

ha ha

He blamed the Jews for just about everything before WW1 too, for that matter.


"We're a happy family, we're a happy family, me, mom and daddy."

M-G (Ramones with EU visions)

Ireland is a rip off country fact and its mighty hard to live there right now.

The Irish government are totally to blame - 320,000 people in negative equity an will be till 2020, paying off their homes with job loses happening everyday, its scary times for people -

I don't think that investors should be allowed to profit massively from residential property, its a persons right to have a home, leave them make money elsewhere.

How fecking dare anyone out there make fun of POLAND after all she has been through.!
LEAVE HER ALONE! You are lucky she even performed for you BASTARDS!
LEAVE POLAND ALONE!…..Please.

LOL

You're darn right: no pay rise and yet more taxes - literally overnight: Government announces a new tax-rise. It's not gonna start the first of the next month or as per some next month, no, it's gonna kick off at 00:00 hrs, midnight tonight. In March, I got to payslips, one before the new tax and one for the remainder of the month after the new tax.

M-G (Ireland should massively go on strike, because the Irish just sit there and let the government scr*w them over)

They re elect the same party over and over - FF suck and have no plan future.

look at the lisbon treaty vote -

the policy of the government is ' vote yes' why? because we told you too.

the real damage was done many years ago and now its like holding onto a rising balloon, you are too far off the ground so if you let go now you are going to break alot bones and injure yourself, however how long can you hold on for....

I think Poland needs can learn alot from the mistakes of the Irish.

What if the Irish simply say "strike"? If everybody joins in and public life comes to a grinding halt, surely the government will at least get a notion that their politics are wrong. It's time to do so as I haven't seen a ppl anywhere that gets so f*cked over by their government and they never protest against it. If they would, things would change, I am sure. In places like France, the UK or the Netherlands this would not be pssbl. Why don't the Irish do that? They were able to curb down the power of the Catholic church this way, so why not with crummy politics?

M-G (workers unite!)

Irish people don't care enough to take drastic action - its a trait of the nation, they constantly moan & complain and have endless debates on the TV and then re elect the same morans - We have had one dominant party who deal in the same **** since the foundation of the freestate - 1923. The population is so small that the property developers had the government in their pockets and despite advice from many many people the government believed that they could sustain the property market... boy were they wrong. Now it will be back to the old days when all the educated young people emigrate as soon as they get their degrees because there is no chance of decent work at home. sad really...

this is going to take along time to fix!!

It is sad as I have grown to like this country and love the ppl. They are good natured most of the time. Maybe that's the problem. However, I have been hearing quite a few rumours that either this month or the next one there is a general strike planned, supposed to last for a few days and is aimed to bring indeed public life to a stand-still. Let's hope these plans will become real and everybody will join in. Would like to see what happens then.

M-G (curious)

Yup that strike idea is good and its the only way to make the government take notice.

Hmmm, when people bring up this comment to win a arguement, it means they have lost the arguement.

Please, please misskend, do some research into this topic before you talk such nonsence.

You may want to substitute wodka instead of water to make you point, although it still will not work.

The issue of shortages of homes bumping up prices of homes is not the point, most poles had no money or access to funds to enter the housing market.

Finding the clitoris (page 21, not mine), hitler blaming the jews and foreigners go home... this has been an entertaining morning cup of coffee. I agree, we should all go back to where ever the **** we came from and revert nationalism and continental and global war. Everyone was better off on their own, certainly Poland, Britain, Ireland, Germany, America, France...

But keep this up, the most active thread on the forum me thinks.

Anyone know a good retail fitter/finisher in Lodz for another foreign investment out to destroy the Polish way of life, steal their women and drink all their vodka?