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Why is Tusk still Polish PM?


Crow 148 | 9,401  
30 Oct 2008 /  #1
as a Serbian, i would like to tell something to my Polish sisters and brothers

i found that it is great humiliation for Poles to have such an idiotic PM as it is Tusk

man is coinfused, sick liar, Slavic traitor who have more respect for mujaheedines then for Racowie. Then, he has serious inferiority complexes, bad sense of humour, etc, etc anomalies

So, i kindly ask you - Why is Tusk still Polish PM?
McCoy 27 | 1,269  
30 Oct 2008 /  #2
Why is Tusk still Polish PM?

because there was no presidential election yet
OP Crow 148 | 9,401  
30 Oct 2008 /  #3
i understand that

but, if some Serbian PM did it to Poles what Tusk did to Serbs, Serbians would sent him to political oblivion few days after that. Even more, we would have serious political scandal and violant protests

What coming to my mind is that there are only two options for Serbs:

1. Serbians are naive idiots and absolutely crazy people

or

2. Serbians are example of normal people what is rare today
polishgirltx  
30 Oct 2008 /  #4
but, if some Serbian PM did it to Poles what Tusk did to Serbs, Serbians would sent him to political oblivion few days after that. Even more, we would have serious political scandal and violant protests

but it's not Serbia, it's Poland... very simple...
OP Crow 148 | 9,401  
30 Oct 2008 /  #5
that simple

so, how long you think to tolerate Tusk?

wait, when i think there were protests in support to Serbian suveregnity in Poland but - Did political establishmant of Poland took it seriously? What after Tusk? another Tusk? How long Serbians need to wait that you annul Kosovo recognition that way? 100 years? and what about NATO crimes on Serbians? who is in Poland responsible for Poland is part of that, did you ask your politicians??
southern 75 | 7,096  
30 Oct 2008 /  #6
What after Tusk?

Kaczynski maybe?
Harry  
30 Oct 2008 /  #7
What coming to my mind is that there are only two options for Serbs:

1. Serbians are naive idiots and absolutely crazy people

or

2. Serbians are example of normal people what is rare today

If it is normal to have invaded four of the countries around one's own in the last two decades, then Serbs must be normal. Can you name any other examples of countries which have invaded so many of their neighbours in the last two decades?
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,161  
30 Oct 2008 /  #8
i found that it is great humiliation for Poles to have such an idiotic PM as it is Tusk

True.
Filios1 8 | 1,336  
30 Oct 2008 /  #9
Kaczynski maybe?

Perhaps Giertych, and his pro-Russian, and anti-EU stance.

i found that it is great humiliation for Poles to have such an idiotic PM as it is Tusk

Think of how badly the people feel who actually voted for this clown...
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,161  
30 Oct 2008 /  #10
Think of how badly the people feel who actually voted for this clown...

Most of them still support this idiot.
Filios1 8 | 1,336  
30 Oct 2008 /  #11
Thats true, the majority...
but I meant the people who actually believed in some of these promises he made. Here we are, and nothing has changed.
Sasha 2 | 1,083  
30 Oct 2008 /  #12
Perhaps Giertych

Does Roman (is that who you mean?) enjoy the popularity in Poland at present?
Filios1 8 | 1,336  
30 Oct 2008 /  #13
Yes, Roman.
Unfortunately, Poles are quite opposed to nationalistic, anti-EU and pro-Russian policies that the LPR (League of Polish Families) have put forth.
I believe the party temporarily had 14% of the votes after the European Parliament elections in June 2004. (second strongest)

Prior to the 2003 Polish referendum on EU membership, the LPR campaigned vehemently against it, denouncing it as a "centralised, socialist superstate". Officially, the LPR declares that it favours a "Europe of nations"

Suspicious attitudes held by the left-wingers and anarchists led to Giertych having a 140,000 person petition signed to remove him from his post as Minister of Education and vice-premier in 2006.

(The LPR had joined a governmental coalition with PiS before that, and Kaczynski gave him that post)
loco polaco 3 | 352  
30 Oct 2008 /  #14
WHAT'S WRONG WITH TUSK, SPECIFICALLY?
southern 75 | 7,096  
30 Oct 2008 /  #15
Fist of all he is not Pole but Kashub.
polishcanuck 7 | 462  
30 Oct 2008 /  #16
While shopping at the local polish deli today, i heard an old women call tusk a niemiec (german). Do poles actually think of kaszubs are being germans? Or did this old lady forget to take her pills?
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
30 Oct 2008 /  #17
Good point Crow. Tusk has really failed to make his mark. OK, he has created some conditions to lure Poles back to Poland but he has been insipid in other areas. While I believe that it will be a highly incremental process for many Poles to enjoy the wealth that many Brits and Germans enjoy, Tusk has done little tangibly to bring about a highly prosperous Poland.

£ukasz posted a number of interesting web sources about Poland becoming more advanced but this was largely in the private sector with outside investors. Tusk needs a major policy initiative that is instantly recognised as being effective. Otherwise, he will just continue to trundle along as an unspectacular leader.

Maybe it's not a bad thing tho that Poles carve out opportunities for themselves. U know, the self-made person. Sometimes it's easier said than done tho. Has Poland turned the page enough?
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,161  
30 Oct 2008 /  #18
Fist of all he is not Pole but Kashub.

That's not the problem at all. The problem is that he is a moron and a lier. And he is maybe of Kashubian origin but I doubt that he even knows the basic language.

OK, he has created some conditions to lure Poles back to Poland

Which conditions ?
Krzysztof 2 | 973  
30 Oct 2008 /  #19
Suspicious attitudes held by the left-wingers and anarchists led to Giertych having a 140,000 person petition signed to remove him from his post as Minister of Education and vice-premier in 2006.

This statement only proves that you have very little idea about Polish literature. Giertych removed from schools some books (Gombrowicz's - because he was gay, reduced the amount of Sienkiewicz's writings). Many people could probably agree with cutting on Sienkiewicz, he was a monumentary figure in Polish culture, but his work isn't the best in Polish literature, although most succesful both nationwide and abroad.

But the real comedy was what Giertych introduced instead, as obligatory reading for students, some real garbage, C class books.
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
30 Oct 2008 /  #20
The ones that lure them back to Poland Grzegorz ;)

Come on, a bit of moral support for the man
plk123 8 | 4,149  
30 Oct 2008 /  #21
very simple...

it's never simple with crow, dont you know? ;)
OP Crow 148 | 9,401  
31 Oct 2008 /  #22
Fist of all he is not Pole but Kashub.

as Grzegorz already said its not the problem. On the contrary, it should be his adventage because for sure he is informed that `germanization` and `drang nach osten` aren`t jokes.

His problem is corruption and great personal and political idiotism
ParisJazz - | 172  
31 Oct 2008 /  #23
His problem is corruption and great personal and political idiotism

yada yada yada.

His problem is : He is a Politician. Period.

Will people never learn. It amazes me that some people out there still expect politicians to "deliver" on their campaign promises.

PJ
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,161  
31 Oct 2008 /  #24
His problem is corruption and great personal and political idiotism

True.
hairball 20 | 313  
31 Oct 2008 /  #25
Kaczynski maybe?

No never again!
pawian 178 | 16,126  
31 Oct 2008 /  #26
Tusk, compared to previous PM, Kaczyński, looks and sounds a very agreeable man.

That is why the support for him hasn`t diminished. We will see if it is kept in the future, but for the time being Tusk has the biggest chance to win presidential elections in 2010.

Don`t be silly. Kashubs are regular Poles. They have never wanted to seperate from Poland, they died for it during WW2.
OP Crow 148 | 9,401  
31 Oct 2008 /  #27
i just think to muself

on the other side, Tusk is maybe wise man

What would happen to Poland if Poland deflect for official NATO/EU policy on Balkan and refuse to take part in German schemes?

i think, Poles would get same as Serbians, no more, no less

and of course, Russia probably won`t save Poland, same as didn`t save Serbia

to put cross on myself, politics is big kurva
pawian 178 | 16,126  
31 Oct 2008 /  #28
May I give you a piece of advice?

If you participate in this forum, attempting to arouse sympathy and support for the Serbian cause from the Polish nation, my advice is the following: Forget it.

The truth is brutal: Poles have bigger problems than Serbia and Kosovo. Things have gone too far there and nothing will be like in the past again. Kosovo is lost for Serbia and the sooner you understand it, the better. Stop wasting your time trying to persuade Poles to stand up for Racowie because it is all in vain.

Instead of starting futile discussions about Kosovo and silly musings about Polish PM Tusk, , why don`t you work hard to make Serbia really great, I mean economically. Do your best in some nice office or factory in Belgrade and after some time your country will prosper. It will be enough if it is strong without being Great.
OP Crow 148 | 9,401  
31 Oct 2008 /  #29
pawian

thank you
pawian 178 | 16,126  
31 Oct 2008 /  #30
Sorry if I hurt your feelings but I thought that sincerity, even brutal, is better than illusions.

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