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What do you think about what the Kaczynskis say about Germans ?


Puzzler  9 | 1088  
30 Jun 2007 /  #61
Hey, espana. Good to see you again. Where have you been? Banned perhaps? I hope not. Was it you who used 'zion' as nick in the meantime?

So the Spanish opposition leader thanked Kaczynskis for their stand at the last EU summit, because thanks to Poland Spain will have more votes than she would have had if the new weighing votes system had been in place.

:)

re: Hetero pride parade? I like that! Lets do it!

Ola, how about if just you and me did it, e.g. in my place?
;)
espana  17 | 947  
30 Jun 2007 /  #62
Was it you who used 'zion' as nick in the meantime?

no why?
Puzzler  9 | 1088  
30 Jun 2007 /  #63
Just a similar style of writing, quite unlike that of the real zion (if I may call him so).
:)
espana  17 | 947  
30 Jun 2007 /  #64
zion=angola +mulato+jew+living in poland = not happy
sledz  23 | 2247  
30 Jun 2007 /  #65
Was it you who used 'zion' as nick in the meantime?

hey I remember last winter, I sent some Q-tips to Poland

are you the same person?

If so why are you busting everybodys balls?

I went out of my way to help you

Does your first intial start with an E???

keep it up
Puzzler  9 | 1088  
30 Jun 2007 /  #66
Do you mean zion is unhappy in Poland? I've thought he loves Poland; that's what he seemed to suggest in his posts.

re: hey I remember last winter

Sledz, are you addressing me, Puzzler?
sledz  23 | 2247  
30 Jun 2007 /  #67
Sledz, are you addressing me, Puzzler?

did you get a box from chicago?
Puzzler  9 | 1088  
30 Jun 2007 /  #68
re: did you get a box from chicago?

- Not even one tiny box on the ears. And I lived there many years. (The rhyme unintended.)

How about you, sledz, do you steal 'alot' or just 'alilbit'?
:)
sledz  23 | 2247  
30 Jun 2007 /  #69
How about you, sledz, do you steal 'alot' or just 'alilbit'

nope , I just tried to help someone out

guess it wasnt you?

but I would if you needed something thats the kinda guy I am
OP Polson  5 | 1767  
30 Jun 2007 /  #70
Polson, as for so-called 'homophobia' in Poland. - In Poland, many people object to the gay 'parades,' to the propagation of homosexuality in schools, and to the attempts to 'convert' to one's 'sexual orientation.' Many Poles don't care who sleeps with whom, as long as it is not advertised noisily. They regard - perhaps rightly? - the noisy advertising as abhorrent and shameless.

I didn't know that there was a "propagation" of homosexality and "conversions" ? It sounds weird because when gays want to do a parade, I saw some cities who refused, so how they do to propagate or convert people ? Actually, if what you say is true ("propagation in schools" and changing the sexual's orientation, even if i don't know if it can be changed...), so yeah i agree, it's not really acceptable, but is it really true, or is it one of the stupid speech of Giertych...LoL i don't know if you support him, but he's maybe worst than the 2 bros ;) LoL

You're a lucky guy - you can go to Poland soon and have all the Polish food you want. Have a good time there.
;)

Yes i know !! I wish i was already there, but i have to wait until next Friday...grrrr ! LoL
We have some remaining pierogi at home, so when we will be there, we will buy more !
Puzzler  9 | 1088  
30 Jun 2007 /  #71
Polson, also Roman Giertych has been demonised by the media hacks, not only in Poland, but all over Europe. There are, for example, dripping-with-hateful-venom attacks against him by the Italian hacks.

And his father Maciej has been demonised by the EU Parliament itself. Especially its German members scolded him angrily for - guess what? - his alleged 'antisemitism.'

Thing is our present government is disliked by the power circles in Europe for its caring for what all other European countries care for - the national interest. Of all the EU countries, 'East Europeans' have no right to do that; they are expected to shut up, obey, and be grateful for being EU members.
Grzegorz_  51 | 6138  
30 Jun 2007 /  #72
stupid speech of Giertych...LoL i don't know if you support him, but he's maybe worst than the 2 bros ;) LoL

Roman is not a very brainy guy, but he is nothing compared to your Le Pen and dude not so long ago was in the 2nd round of presidential elections, wasn't he ?
Puzzler  9 | 1088  
30 Jun 2007 /  #73
re: Roman is not a very brainy guy

- Why not, Greg? I hear people saying this, but not giving any clear reasons. So do you know the clear reasons?

Cheers.
:)
OP Polson  5 | 1767  
30 Jun 2007 /  #74
Roman is not a very brainy guy, but he is nothing compared to your Le Pen and dude not so long ago was in the 2nd round of presidential elections, wasn't he ?

LoL Grzegorz_ yeah, we have Le Pen, but i have nothing to see with the 2nd round of the presidential (in 2002) because i couldn't vote. ;)

Polson, also Roman Giertych has been demonised by the media hacks, not only in Poland, but all over Europe. There are, for example, dripping-with-hateful-venom attacks against him by the Italian hacks.

And his father Maciej has been demonised by the EU Parliament itself. Especially its German members scolded him angrily for - guess what? - his alleged 'antisemitism.'

Maybe he has been demonised, but i think you can't say he's a very nice person by being even a little "anti-semitic", and by wanting Polish schools to stop reading books of Goethe or Sienkiewicz, but to prefer more "Christian" ones, or i don't remember what. It's a good point that his suggestions are rarely taken seriously but he's...dangerous ! LoL ;)
Puzzler  9 | 1088  
30 Jun 2007 /  #75
re: i think you can't say he's a very nice person by being even a little "anti-semitic"

- Well, but is he? By the way, would you also say it's not a very nice person one who is even a little Polonophobic?

re: by wanting Polish schools to stop reading books of Goethe or Sienkiewicz

- This has been blown out of proportion by the media hacks, I'm afraid. (Notice how they spread hatred, set people against each other.) In reality, Mr Giertych postulated withdrawing all the books that are difficult to read, and replacing them with easy-reads. and that's what he should be perhaps criticised for - for going to easy on the students. But maybe he's right? Such 'Faust' by Goethe, which was on the school readings list in Poland through all the communist era, can be dropped off, not because it's German (Goethe, by the way, wasn't a Polonophobe), but because it's to hard to get through by high school students nowadays. And the sole Polish translation, by Konopka, seems outdated already. By the way, are German high school kids forced to read 'Pan Tadeusz' by Mickiewicz? Do English or French kids are forced to read 'Faust' by Goethe or even 'Hamlet' by Shakespeare?

re: but to prefer more "Christian" ones

- What's wrong with Christian literature? After all, Poland is still a Christian nation.

re: or i don't remember what

- No, you don't, and it shows.
:)
OP Polson  5 | 1767  
30 Jun 2007 /  #76
LoL Puzzler ;)

Well, who is Polonophobic ?? Not me, i'm sure of it :p But yes the person who is even a little Polonophobic is quite bad. ;)

I have anything against Christianity but i think it's a personnal thing, you cannot put Christian things all day long in everything. Religion, for me, is a personal matter. We do believe in god, or we don't. Laicity is good because each one has the choice to believe in god or not. By the way, there is something i'd like to know : is Poland a laic country ?

That's all for now ;)
miranda  
30 Jun 2007 /  #77
is Poland a laic country ?

more than anybody likes to admit
OP Polson  5 | 1767  
30 Jun 2007 /  #78
Okay thanks ;)
miranda  
30 Jun 2007 /  #79
aren't you going to visit soon - you will have the first hand experiance when there. It is difficult to learn about a country from mostly peronal opinions which are quite prevelant on this forum.
OP Polson  5 | 1767  
30 Jun 2007 /  #80
No i've been in Poland a lot !! My mom is Polish, I'm 19, so i think i've been in Poland like 19 times ! LoL :p actually i try to go there each year. Last time i was there, it was in December, i spent Christmas and the "Happy New Year" in Zakopane ;) It was nice !!

And sorry, yes i'm going there soon ;) next Friday, to the North-West, to the sea ;)
Puzzler  9 | 1088  
30 Jun 2007 /  #81
Polson, no, you're certainly not Polonophobic, sunny. Have a good holiday in Poland.
:)
OP Polson  5 | 1767  
30 Jun 2007 /  #82
Okay, thanks ;) I'm sure it's going to be nice there !
Wolkenreiter  - | 1  
4 Oct 2007 /  #83
We german are very friendly and we have wonderful music.... And the polishgirls are very nice :-)
Crow  154 | 9297  
4 Oct 2007 /  #84
I just wondered how Poles react on what they say about Germany ? Comparing them to the nazis for example ?

Polish brate, considering that Kaczynskis support (at least publicly, maybe its just political manuvering) creation of Greater Albania they aren`t popular among Serbs of Balkan. But, if they were ready to point at official Germany as nazi bastion they maybe aren`t that bad and we can say that those twins have enough courage to at least indirectly croticise German policy.

Polish and Serbian strategic interests are very similar and both of our nations would like to see German greedy fingers far from Slavic world (only in fair bussines, of course). Both of our nations would like that Russia strenghten and to become real democratic state which won`t use its power just for domination under other Slavs and non-Slavs but, on the behalf of Slavs. Then, both of our nations can greatly profit from Christian reunion, etc.

So, I strongly believe that we can expect closer cooperation between Poles and Serbs in future, like in the time of Milos Obilic and Racowie, in time of Jan Sobieski or during Prince Czartoryski/Kościuszko Uprising.

We german are very friendly and we have wonderful music.... And the polishgirls are very nice :-)

With all due respect, Germans don`t have friendly reputation if you understand me and, German popular music is very bad. Classical musical achievments are something else and are worth.
Wroclaw  44 | 5359  
4 Oct 2007 /  #85
We german are very friendly and we have wonderful music

This is always true in Berlin. From my experience, anyway.
randompal  7 | 306  
4 Oct 2007 /  #86
Poland would be today looking at the demographics of a country of 66 million

conjecture.

I just wondered how Poles react on what they say about Germany

It's fine that they are fighting for Poland's rights, but the way that they do it makes them look like total bumpkins. Most educated Poles are embarassed of their overall style.
OP Polson  5 | 1767  
4 Oct 2007 /  #87
the way that they do it makes them look like total bumpkins.

Agree.

way that they do it makes them look like total bumpkins. Most educated Poles are embarassed of their overall style

As i were.
Crow  154 | 9297  
4 Oct 2007 /  #88
Most educated Poles are embarassed of their overall style

no need to be embarassed because of actions of any politician. It was Poland before Kaczynskis and will be after them but, can help if they lost voters on elections
randompal  7 | 306  
4 Oct 2007 /  #89
Agree.

finally someone agrees with Randompal
OP Polson  5 | 1767  
4 Oct 2007 /  #90
LoL ;) if you're thinking about those who support the Kaczki bros, you will rarely agree with them ;p

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