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z_darius 14 | 3,968  
7 Nov 2007 /  #91
And yet China's state-run Zhuhai Zhenrong Corp, the biggest buyer of Iranian crude worldwide, began paying for its oil in euros.

Four years of US failed policies, the size of China, the power of Japan's economy and hugs and kisses between Iran and Russia do make a big difference.
Lukasz 49 | 1,746  
8 Nov 2007 /  #92
Sarkozy's complaints that the U.S. currency's drop against the euro is undermining European competitiveness.

maybe it is problem for some of EU countries ... but for Poland it is good business, part of our debt is in $, we have to pay for F-16 in $, our export to USA is very small ...
krysia 23 | 3,057  
8 Nov 2007 /  #93
If Americans want to go to Poland, they better hurry because next year the dollar will be worth about 1 zl. It is dropping drastically.
randompal 7 | 306  
8 Nov 2007 /  #94
yep looks like the Federal Reserve can't print dollars fast enough!

French will give them soldiers ...

Sarkozy will have to send the Foreign Legion, French troops won't want to go to the mid-east to fight Uncle Sam's war - oops that's what Poland is for!
Lukasz 49 | 1,746  
8 Nov 2007 /  #95
Sarkozy will have to send the Foreign Legion, French troops won't want to go to the mid-east to fight Uncle Sam's war - oops that's what Poland is for!

in case of Iran USA - EU will hold one line ... you will see, and I m not discussing if Iran is real thread or if Poland should care about Iran ... I just noticed fact

If Americans want to go to Poland, they better hurry because next year the dollar will be worth about 1 zl. It is dropping drastically.

after this statement I think it will not happen
szarlotka 8 | 2,208  
8 Nov 2007 /  #96
Would love to contribute further but I have to go and do the Xmas shopping in the States.

I think my wife would like Oregon for Xmas.

Toodle Pip
randompal 7 | 306  
8 Nov 2007 /  #97
Cool. Pick up Hawaii while you are threre, I'll pay u back next month..
Crow 152 | 9,787  
8 Nov 2007 /  #98
It's not funny anymore

no, its not funny

its even just a matter of time when would Budism become more agressive as global religion. Islam would look as small joke in comparison with it.

China isn`t etnicaly homogenous. Bulk of population consists of Han people but, China managed to preserve memory on common origin of people which are part of Chinese civilization in general. Global strategic researches see China as one of global civilizations.

Power of China is in numbers and in fact that Chinese population is aware that they can survive, prosper and preserve their identity only if part of their Chinese civilization. They had hard history, often starvations/famine, wars, many invaders on them. But now, in modern time, they consolidate and represent remarcable example of sucessfull civilization. Thay are also very old civilization (one interesting thing- their old chronicles preserved data about contacts with Proto Slavs/Slavs, Sarmatians and any Chinese historian would easely tell you that Sarmatians are in fact modern day Slavs).

One more thing

I found once comment in Net article that Komsomolskaya pravda wrote that in the Russian imagination there are graphic images of migrants from Central Asia and the North Caucasus fighting against the Chinese for influence in Siberia.

I ask... Where are Russians in that fighting, which already occured? This question forced me to understand that Russia must change fast and open on the first place for other Slavs, if wants to survive on the long run. This helped me to understand attitude of some of my Russian friends, in case with new approach in Pan-Slavic Russian circles. Simply, situation dictate changes. In past, Slavs were slow on changes and we paid that derly. We will see what would be our modern respond on current and future chalanges.
Lukasz 49 | 1,746  
8 Nov 2007 /  #99
I found once comment in Net article that Komsomolskaya pravda wrote that in the Russian imagination there are graphic images of migrants from Central Asia and the North Caucasus fighting against the Chinese for influence in Siberia.

we know that Russians are really worried about China and their Syberia ... If China is thread for Poland :))) I dont think so ... as to Russians, that is why we know that their threads that they can sell their gas/oil to other places than EU is good joke, they can sell it for China but main reciver will be Europe becuase it is the best for Russia safety ...

as to Chinese people in Poland :)) they think about money and their business I dont think buddism is going to be thread :))) as to me they are perfect imigrants
Macduff 9 | 69  
8 Nov 2007 /  #100
Check how the employment level is heading in the USA if is good keep the $ if it is getting worse sell sell sell
Lukasz 49 | 1,746  
8 Nov 2007 /  #101
sytuation is very interesting ...

USD/PLN
hello 22 | 891  
8 Nov 2007 /  #102
I'm from Poland myself and I understand the frustration of Poles in Poland. But the argument that the Polish Zloty is strong and people should be happy becasue of it is as silly as propaganda. Look at the bottom line - US dollar is weak abroad, but Americans still can afford a new car every 5 years, new computers (PC and laptop) every 2 year, changing oil every 3000 miles. Compare it to Poland... When I go to Poland people window-shop for goods that Americans buy once a month.

Nice charts, but no goods and empty wallet doesn't equal the quality of life.
Lukasz 49 | 1,746  
8 Nov 2007 /  #103
Offcourse USA is richer country but we would have more problems with weak Euro becuase we export our products mainly to Euro Zone, and we have some debts in $ so it will be easier to pay it (F-16 is nice example) ...
krysia 23 | 3,057  
8 Nov 2007 /  #104
but Americans still can afford a new car every 5 years, new computers (PC and laptop) every 2 year, changing oil every 3000 miles.

Ooops...not every American. My car is 10 years old, I better hurry and get a new one. I change oil very 3000 miles coz it's better for the engine and it's cheap.

But Poland will become one of the strongest countries in Europe. In 2012 Poland and Ukraine will host the Soccer Tournaments. They are building like crazy new roads, new hotels, etc. in preperation for the event. And who will be working in Poland? The Chinese. All the Poles left to England.

And the Polish zloty will become stronger, the pays will be higher because of belonging to the EU.
hello 22 | 891  
8 Nov 2007 /  #105
Yes. But the question is - what's a country worth if it's hard to live in it? How much your salary is able to buy you goods and services is the most important measure. How long in Poland you'll have to work to afford a small apartment versus in the US? Same for other big-ticket goods like cars or even clothes.
z_darius 14 | 3,968  
8 Nov 2007 /  #106
However strongly I wish I would like to disagree, I can't. You have some valid points here.
randompal 7 | 306  
8 Nov 2007 /  #107
Americans still can afford a new car every 5 years, new computers (PC and laptop) every 2 year, changing oil every 3000 miles

nothing lasts for ever. Just watch, if the dollar does continue to go bust the US will have to do something drastic, there is a very real possibility that WWIII is just around the corner...
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,161  
8 Nov 2007 /  #108
I'm from Poland myself and I understand the frustration of Poles in Poland.

Bla bla... You live in America and simply don't want to realize that America is losing its status. Yeah, I heard It many times that weak dollar is some kind of master plan of the government and Fed but this is BS.

And I've got no idea what "frustration" you are talking about.
hello 22 | 891  
8 Nov 2007 /  #109
I realize I won't be able to travel abroad (to Poland especially) as long as the US dollar continues to fall. I don't care about the American status as I feel Polish, not American. I don't think it was a master plan with the dollar, I think it just happened and then the US government didn't even expect that. But after a while their realized it's actually not a bad situation for the US economy to have the US dollar weak so they just don't do much about it.

Frustration - when I go to Poland and have brand clothes, laptop, and other "expensive goods" it feels like people in Poland consider me to be rich when in fact it's something normal here. Then I talk to Polish doctors, engineer's, or other people with university degrees and they complain they have 20 years to pay off their apartment or need to take a loan to buy a small car. That's where I feel the frustration.
szkotja2007 27 | 1,498  
8 Nov 2007 /  #110
I realize I won't be able to travel abroad

But for those that want to holiday in USA its looking more and more attractive.

Florida here I come !
hello 22 | 891  
8 Nov 2007 /  #111
Yes, FL is nice, but not if you go there every year ;). But some other areas to discover, even Alaska in summer or Hawaii in winter.
szkotja2007 27 | 1,498  
8 Nov 2007 /  #112
I like the big open spaces in the West, big horizons.
Then of course theres N.Y. for shopping and Vegas for fun !
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,161  
8 Nov 2007 /  #113
I realize I won't be able to travel abroad (to Poland especially) as long as the US dollar continues to fall.

It's not only about traveling. Check how much America imports, how many products you buy are not American. And don't think that they all will be made in USA now, because costs in China and many other countries are still several times lower.
randompal 7 | 306  
8 Nov 2007 /  #114
frustration of Poles in Poland

i am frustrated because I cant find a decent place to go skiing in Slovakia this winter, but thats about it

Frustration - when I go to Poland and have brand clothes, laptop, and other "expensive goods" it feels like people in Poland consider me to be rich when in fact it's something normal here.

you must come from some poor village in the hills. most of my friends here in Poland have computers, laptops, fancy cellphones, some of us even have nice cars. what parallel universe are you living in? have you really been to Poland lately?
hello 22 | 891  
8 Nov 2007 /  #115
It's not only about traveling. Check how much America imports, how many products you buy are not American. And don't think that they all will be made in USA now, because costs in China and many other countries are still several times lower.

I've never had an American-made care; either Japanes or European. But will Europe be better off when they have lots of products in magazines? Who will be buying from them if Americans stop buying?
Lukasz 49 | 1,746  
8 Nov 2007 /  #116
Who will be buying from them if Americans stop buying?

Poland :) Russia, Hungary ...
hello 22 | 891  
8 Nov 2007 /  #117
most of my friends here in Poland have computers, laptops, fancy cellphones, some of us even have nice cars. what parallel universe are you living in? have you really been to Poland lately?

This is what I was writing about before. Some of them may have computers, cars, cell phones, and laptops, but they still live with their parents or grand parents as they cannot afford a decent house.
Lukasz 49 | 1,746  
8 Nov 2007 /  #118
Hello the fact is that USA is richer than Poland ... and we dont discusse it ... the other thing is that we are closer western standarts of life than it was few years ago ...
randompal 7 | 306  
8 Nov 2007 /  #119
but they still live with their parents or grand parents as they cannot afford a decent house.

yes flats are expensive but no one escept the super rich buys them outright, you have to get a mortgage, so many of us have a choice: live with the rents until they die or go to the bank and get a loan. not everyone can get loans but genertally if you have a full time job you can get something, no offense but your tale of woe is unconvincing, life isnt so bad in PolaND. there are pros and cons but there are even things here that are much better than the USA.
hello 22 | 891  
8 Nov 2007 /  #120
But why millions of young Poles work in the UK and other EU countries (not to mention the US)? If the economic situation is as you describe - maybe they don't like Polish culture, wheather, or way of life...

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