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Poland wants $55bln of new roads for Euro 2012


David_18 68 | 982  
13 Apr 2008 /  #1
Poland intends to spend $55 billion on new road construction in the next five years in preparation for the Euro 2012 soccer championships, Infrastructure Minister Cezary Grabarczyk said in an interview.

guardian.co.uk/feedarticle?id=7451754

Maybe its time for the Polish workers to come back home to Poland or else we will be invaded by China.
Bartolome 2 | 1,085  
13 Apr 2008 /  #2
Comparing Polish road network with German is, softly speaking, out of place here. The economical gap between the two countries is still huge.
Lukasz 49 | 1,746  
13 Apr 2008 /  #3
Firstly EU doens't give 97% funds for investment (I think it is 50% or 75%)

secondly here is the answer why Polish Zloty will be strong ... (we need to sell Euro and buy Zloty to use this money)

That is why Bartolome or other emigrants are not going to be rich people in Poland (with their pounds ;)) and after comming back are going to work in simmilar occupation than in UK. ;) (with Chinese coworkers)
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
13 Apr 2008 /  #4
Poland has already been given funding for such a grand project but it's been safely stored away we are told. A bit like the vast gold reserves under WTC 5.
BubbaWoo 33 | 3,510  
13 Apr 2008 /  #5
Comparing Polish road network with German is, softly speaking, out of place here. The economical gap between the two countries is still huge.

what corrolations are you drawing in the relationship between economy and road networks?
Wroclaw 44 | 5,384  
13 Apr 2008 /  #6
Maybe its time for the Polish workers to come back home to Poland

I have mentioned, more than once, that German workers are already here.

This project doesn't stand a hope in Hell of being completed. Every time a road is planned Joe Public sees it as a chance to make money. The government will have to settle with farmers, alotment owners and home owners who will hold up the process. There is a myriad of other problems too.

Anyone who thinks it will reach completion in time is living in cloud cuckoo land.
BubbaWoo 33 | 3,510  
13 Apr 2008 /  #7
is there a draft plan for the new roads - can anyone post a link?

I have mentioned, more than once, that German workers are already here

german workers were brought in to build the balticka centrum in gdansk wrzeszcz... for a number of different reasons but largely because they were cheaper than the locals and didnt bugger off once they had been trained up in a new skill
Lukasz 49 | 1,746  
13 Apr 2008 /  #8
drogi

here you have
Bartolome 2 | 1,085  
13 Apr 2008 /  #10
what corrolations are you drawing in the relationship between economy and road networks?

I'm not an economist, but it's obvious to me these are directly connected. I see how developed roads in the UK are, and how far away Poland still is.
BubbaWoo 33 | 3,510  
13 Apr 2008 /  #11
yeah, it obviously takes money to build roads but the EU gave money to poland a while back to get this job at least started. since then not a great deal has been done, whilst labour and material costs have risen sharply.

in fairness, the gdansk tzcew road has been completed pretty much on target, which is more than can be said for similar british projects. but to achieve the sort of targets outlined in the 2012 proposal calls for sleeves to be rolled up and knuckling down to some hard graft
isthatu2 4 | 2,702  
13 Apr 2008 /  #12
Comparing Polish road network with German is, softly speaking, out of place here. The economical gap between the two countries is still huge.

not really,considering that as recently as 03 I was driving the main route to Krakow on a bloody nazi built autobahn :)
and speaking of which,whats with all those bridges over roads?the bridges that dont even have roads leading to them...now thats bizzare :)
Wroclaw Boy  
13 Apr 2008 /  #13
Driving in and around the facinity of Wroclaw became an "add an hour" ordeal between 05/2007 - 02/2008 as a direct result of the new and improved infrastucture program. They seemed to be building all the major road restructure programmes at roughly the same time. Pleasure - pain theory i guess.

Has anybody else experienced a substantial decrease in the life of their right hand tyers? Im keeping trye pressure to factory approved levels but there just getting hammered due to the curvature of the bad roads.
Lukasz 49 | 1,746  
13 Apr 2008 /  #14
yes dead line seems to be main problem ... we have enought money we need more lauborers. I hope that we are going to be able to employ enought Ukrainians or Russians.
Bartolome 2 | 1,085  
13 Apr 2008 /  #15
bloody nazi built autobahn

One Nazi Autobahn doesn't change much. And it still needs repairs. One guy even sued the company which charged him for using the motorway (while he had to drive at snail's pace due to all that mess, and that's not the reason for building trunk roads, is it ?) and, guess what, he actually won.
tornado2007 11 | 2,274  
13 Apr 2008 /  #16
haha 55bln, i wonder how much of that will actually be funded by poland itself :)

its not only the raods that need a re-vamp most of the stadiums are obsalete and not fit for purpose in their current state.
Lukasz 49 | 1,746  
13 Apr 2008 /  #17
its not only the raods that need a re-vamp most of the stadiums are obsalete and not fit for purpose in their current state.

this article is only about roads you fukin arrogant wanker :)
tornado2007 11 | 2,274  
13 Apr 2008 /  #18
well i think you'll find its linked :) as you are builiding the roads to be ready for the 'FOOTBALL' tournament that is going to take place in 2012 so you can take your words and stick them were the sun does not shine :) I actually think its rather relivant, whats the point in having wembley way without the stadium :)

read this Luki boy i think you'll see what i mean:

sportbusiness.com/news/163994/poland-faces-criticism-over-euro-2012-preparations
BubbaWoo 33 | 3,510  
13 Apr 2008 /  #19
Tusk said: "I heard words that confirmed that the challenge is serious..."

???

hadnt he realised this already...?
Lukasz 49 | 1,746  
13 Apr 2008 /  #20
I am not going to discusse this issues with you. Tou are kind of boy who goes to every discussion with statements

haha 55bln, i wonder how much of that will actually be funded by poland itself :)

now |I am happy because I know Islam is future of your country :) Poles are not going to save you :)

and now you can go where sun doesn't shine.

Noimmigartion 3 months ago I called you our ally :) yes go to the job and kick some Poles back ;)

I think we are going to see more and more slavic brothers in working in Poland and sending money to Ukraine...

as to Chinese it seems that they are more accepted than other exotic races, all in all I hope Ukrainians will be enought.

read this Luki boy i think you'll see what i mean:

Itlainas wants to take our Euro ... bla bla bla I don't care all I know is that if shortage of laubor force will be the reason of ... :) nothing bad.

My post is not about EURO it is about situation in general.
tornado2007 11 | 2,274  
13 Apr 2008 /  #21
I am not going to discusse this issues with you. Tou are kind of boy who goes to every discussion with statements
tornado2007:
haha 55bln, i wonder how much of that will actually be funded by poland itself :)

your just avoiding the fact that i'm correct about the issue, its not just the roads that need to be improved for 2012 its many other things too. You would rather get personal than acutally put accross points of argument or discussion. Yes so i pur in a little bit of a provoking statement, however there is a point behind it. How much are Poland going to raise and fund for themselves, or how much is actually going to be paid by the EU?? i actually think its a reasonable question.

now |I am happy because I know Islam is future of your country :) (or NAZIZM :P) Poles are not going to save you :)

The poles saving us, don't make me laugh, you couldn't fight your way out of a wet paper bag, lol :). I admire and thank the Polish for fighitng in our RAF in the 2nd world war, it was a good war effort :).

As for the nazi statement you made, i think your nation has a bigger problem with 'white supremacy' and 'neo nazi's' than we do :). I'm not saying there is not a problem in the UK but as far as the NAZI thing goes you beat us on that scale :)

and now you can go where sun doesn't shine.

well actually i wouldn't miind a trip to norway, you know in some parts its dark there 6 months of the year :) Maybe you would like to go too :)

Itlainas wants to take our Euro ... bla bla bla I don't care all I know is that if shortage of laubor force will be the reason ... :) nothing bad

hay listen i don't want the Euro's to move, you and Ukraine have been given the tournament, yes i thought it was the wrong decision at the time, however the decisoin has been made, its important that both Poland and the UKraine get it right or it could be more negative for your nations than positive. Look at the mess that 2010 world cup preperations are in SA. You don't want that sort of thing surely??
Lukasz 49 | 1,746  
13 Apr 2008 /  #22
As for the nazi statement you made, i think your nation has a bigger problem with 'white supremacy' and 'neo nazi's' than we do :). I'm not saying there is not a problem in the UK but as far as the NAZI thing goes you beat us on that scale :)

you have much different problem (I will avoid posting clips with minirities in UK expresing their love towards native Brits). We see it :) people who have been to UK talk about it :) it is not my imagination.

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as to Euro don't worry. :) (money are not problem)
BubbaWoo 33 | 3,510  
13 Apr 2008 /  #23
(I will avoid posting clips with minirities in UK expresing their love towards native Brits)

yeah well we all know what they can do
Bartolome 2 | 1,085  
13 Apr 2008 /  #24
As for the nazi statement you made, i think your nation has a bigger problem with 'white supremacy' and 'neo nazi's' than we do :). I'm not saying there is not a problem in the UK but as far as the NAZI thing goes you beat us on that scale :)

They're just very small minority, and can just scream loud, but in fact do nothing.
tornado2007 11 | 2,274  
13 Apr 2008 /  #25
(I will avoid posting clips with minirities in UK expresing their love towards native Brits)

lol yeah, people always complain and tell us how much they like us, the funny thing is though, they still keep coming to the UK, so whats all the fuss about :):):):):)

as to Euro don't worry. :) (money are not problem)

i'll take your word for it mate
Lukasz 49 | 1,746  
13 Apr 2008 /  #26
the funny thing is though, they still keep coming to the UK,

yes it is the most funny thing :)))
tornado2007 11 | 2,274  
13 Apr 2008 /  #27
They're just very small minority, and can just scream loud, but in fact do nothing.

i never said that i thought they were a majority, sorry if i didn't make that clear, however the problems can't be ignored just because they are a minority, as far as doing nothing, i'm not sure the people who are beaten and sometimes killed at football, or kicked out of pubs for being black would agree with you there :)

yes it is the most funny thing :)))

:):)
Bartolome 2 | 1,085  
13 Apr 2008 /  #28
as far as doing nothing

I mean they can do nothing (or very little). Our country has also anti-nazi, and anti-xenophobia organisations.

i never said that i thought they were a majority, sorry if i didn't make that clear, however the problems can't be ignored just because they are a minority, as far as doing nothing, i'm not sure the people who are beaten and sometimes killed at football, or kicked out of pubs for being black would agree with you there :)

I think it all will change in time, for Poland has long been a mono-ethnic country, since more and more foreigners may come there (in this case Chinese workers) people will open their minds, at least in some minimal range. Besides such behaviour isn't just exclusive for Poles, mind you.
Wroclaw 44 | 5,384  
13 Apr 2008 /  #29
They're just very small minority, and can just scream loud, but in fact do nothing.

These '88' folks are starting to feature more and more on news items. They pose just as much of a risk to Euro 2012 as the roads. If the media latch onto these folks and spread the word then the damage will be difficult to clean up.

I mention this as a possibility, nothing more.
Bartolome 2 | 1,085  
13 Apr 2008 /  #30
Yeah, media are partially to blame - they shouldn't show them so often and make the news of a day with a small group of idiots with shaved empty heads.

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