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Poland..wake up to a multicultural world


lukimp80 1 | 74  
24 Feb 2009 /  #241
The more that I see on this subject convinces me that this type of liberalism is being driven by the young educated generation. The same thing is happening in America. They have no clue as to what their Fathers went through to allow these young idiots the privilege of a good education. This is something that they never had.

The young people think that life was always this good, so they preach their dogma to others. They have no clue as to what the consequences are. Our Liberals in America are mostly very wealthy people who live in fenced communities and tell the working class to mingle with the BRUDASY.

This is not a new thing. The ROMA have classed as unclean for centuries, and where did they come from? The middle east? INDIA?
Even today they are classed as BRUDASY (unclean).. So screw them all. They are the ones that are going to have to live with it.

Good Luck, I wouldnt want to be in your shoes.. I fear for my kids.
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
24 Feb 2009 /  #242
At the same time, you can't aim for ethnic purity and practise avoidance of others too much. Foreigners in Poland are not here to undermine the good work of the Poles, far from it. We are here to educate, provide good food and offer sound medical advice amongst other things.

Variety is the spice of life!
lukimp80 1 | 74  
24 Feb 2009 /  #243
Seanus, you are so full of crap, that you are disgusting. You claim that foreigners are in Poland to teach? And you claim to be a teacher, but you spend 3/4 of the day on PF.. when in the hell do you teach.. For Christ sake get a job.

Provide good food. OMG! Like what frigging KABOBS or CHITTILINS.
No I don't think so. Personally I prefer, Kielbasa, bigos, pierogi, szynka, and yeast bread in place of unleavened bread.
Advanced medical advice? Yeah sure. Then why are all the foreign students coming to America to further their medical education. The Johns Hopkins, Mayo Clinic, University Of Maryland ETC are 75 percent Foreign students. I always held you in higher esteem than that.
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
24 Feb 2009 /  #244
Many foreigners are in Poland to teach, laddie. Get over it! Then explain to me why I can make over 6000PLN every month as a teacher? Not working weekends nor having any privates. Yes, I'm listening.

No, like Asian food (of any description) or other European offerings. Fine, be happy with your glorified peasant food. We feed the horses cabbage back home ;) Or scabby bread that barely lasts one day. I bought a loaf yesterday and all it's good for now is toasting.

Many Africans make very good doctors, you can't seriously deny that.
Sokrates 8 | 3,346  
24 Feb 2009 /  #245
Variety is the spice of life!

Especially when variety preaches "Islam or else". I'm sorry Sean i'm all for whites from Europe but colored minorities should be carefully monitored and never allowed in too great numbers.
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
24 Feb 2009 /  #246
I'm not saying that they should be allowed in in great numbers. I was just saying that some diversity is a good thing to a certain extent. Knowing that level is the key issue.

Poland is a member of the EU. Poles flocked to the UK in their droves. Why can't some Pakistani and Indian Brits come here to set up shop? What if many came? Many Brits believe that too many Poles came and it became problematic. How would you react if the boot was on the other foot?
Eurola 4 | 1,909  
25 Feb 2009 /  #247
Most liberals want to be "nice" and preach variety, but ...not in their back yard. Oh, no. It's fine if the minorities are in yours and how dare you think they should not be there!
grethomory 1 | 155  
25 Feb 2009 /  #248
But you Europeans fail to realize the problems that we have in America. We have about 13 percent blacks, causing 75 percent of the problems. Our cities are all going to hell. Crime is out of control.
There is so much more, but I will not dwell on it.

You're falling into the media bull...and the only thing you hear is people of color who are "supposedly" making it so bad...you don't hear those stories of poor whites in America do you...quit falling for bull and think for yourself.

I am black, grew up with both parents who went to college, one parent a doctor the other a teacher...as well as grandparents who went to college. Albeit, they had to go to all Black universities, but they went. I myself am college educated as well and so is my brother.

Ever think why you don't hear about people like me? You never hear about us. I was so glad growing up as a kid and the Cosby show was on because I related more to that than anything...parents who were a doctor and lawyer.

In addition, I didn't grow up in a white neighborhood. I grew up in an all Black neighborhood with college grads...and believe this or not...in the South.

Don't fall for bull
Randal 1 | 577  
25 Feb 2009 /  #249
some diversity is a good thing

I will agree to this, providing this caveat:

to a certain extent. Knowing that level is the key issue.

So we agree that there can be too much of a “good thing”?
ragtime27 1 | 146  
25 Feb 2009 /  #250
Don't waste your breath much here grethomory.

you may get one or two members who are sensible and able to have debate like Seanus the rest are bunch of racist or ignorant.

I tend to stick with reading most of the time rather argue with someone who pretend to be God or an expert.

One thing,poles have a lot to catch up with other european neighbours such as UK.
grethomory 1 | 155  
25 Feb 2009 /  #251
I normally don't worry about it, but I know from experience hatred and ignorance no matter the race will eventually consume an individual or group.
Warsaw8 4 | 126  
25 Feb 2009 /  #252
Wow ive only read page 1, and I must say I am very satisfied with everyone who posted Except "guest". Constantly posting as "guest" makes you a coward. Anyways, Polska does not need your diversity, polska will do whats good for her and her kin. End of story.

And dont worry about poland making history, she did 500 years ago during the great Husaryan Battles, in which we conqured the "Non White" Turkish ottoman empire, saving europe from the threat then, of multiculturalism, while your tolerant nations of spain, france and germany couldint...Polska Uber Allies! :)
jeroen 1 | 12  
25 Feb 2009 /  #253
Polska does not need your diversity, polska will do whats good for her and her kin. End of story.

Then stop escaping your own country, like millions of Poles have done.... Appearantly Polska isn't that good!

There are quit some remarkable extreme views on this forum here... I can understand that people are upset with the problems migrants are causing, in the US as well as in Europe. I am new on this forum, I thought it was a decent forum, But this forum looks more like an extreme right forum than anything else.
Sokrates 8 | 3,346  
25 Feb 2009 /  #254
Poland is a member of the EU. Poles flocked to the UK in their droves. Why can't some Pakistani and Indian Brits come here to set up shop? What if many came? Many Brits believe that too many Poles came and it became problematic. How would you react if the boot was on the other foot?

Sean i made my point clear before, i think UK is fucking itself up with the open border policy, especially letting blacks and muslim fester but Poles are part of the problem too, you already get multilingual schools, sharia councils and all kinds of undesirable stuff that strains your economy and destroys your society.

Poles went there because you let them, i dont think you did good for yourselves (though ceirtanly good for us).
Randal 1 | 577  
25 Feb 2009 /  #255
I am new on this forum, I thought it was a decent forum, But this forum looks more like an extreme right forum than anything else.

Ah, leave it to those "tolerant" Liberals to cast labels at those with which they disagree.
There are plenty of kooky Lib forums out there. Maybe you would feel more at home at one of them.
ShelleyS 14 | 2,893  
25 Feb 2009 /  #256
Sean i made my point clear before, i think UK is fucking

I think we better change that to "fucked" as in past tense :)

One thing,poles have a lot to catch up with other european neighbours such as UK.

Don't kid yourself, most Brits don't want the immigrants here - you're a bit foolish if you think that everyone is a fluffy liberal with open arms!
miranda  
25 Feb 2009 /  #257
We are here to educate, provide good food and offer sound medical advice amongst other things.

and make money, or have a life in Poland with Polish partners, take advantage of a new economy etc.
nunczka 8 | 458  
25 Feb 2009 /  #258
Don't kid yourself, most Brits don't want the immigrants here - you're a bit foolish if you think that everyone is a fluffy liberal with open arms!

LOL! Atta girl Shelley, you tell um.
grethomory 1 | 155  
25 Feb 2009 /  #259
Don't kid yourself, most Brits don't want the immigrants here - you're a bit foolish if you think that everyone is a fluffy liberal with open arms!

Shelley and I can truly say as well it works like that here in States...I live in Chicago and you should hear the mean things many "whites" say about the Polish here. I wouldn't dare lower myself to repeat them on this forum. But they are mean and sad. I guess they feel comfortable saying it to me because I am not white and Polish. To them Poles are the outsiders...many of them look at blacks as belonging to this country although they are not treated right. Let's put it this way...if you've got an accent...they are going to look at you a certain way. It's truly sad. People wake up
miranda  
25 Feb 2009 /  #260
immigrants are always scapegoats to carry the burden and blame for what is really wrong with a particular society. So if things go wrong and they eventually will (such as bad economy) the first to blame are the immigrant group which often has little to do with being responsible for the difficult situation. It has been done many time and it will be done many time in the future. it give those, who are not successful a little bit of a relief in order to feel better about their own situation.

It is OK to have cheap labour but once those people start claiming any rights, they are labeled as not contributing to society. A vicious circle indeed.
agacia - | 8  
25 Feb 2009 /  #261
Poland is a STRONG country and we got STROONGGG without those you mention. So I as Polish choose to IGNORE your silly statement mr martin luther.
miranda  
25 Feb 2009 /  #262
So I as Polish choose to IGNORE your silly statement mr martin luther.

that would be wise because he is dead.
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
25 Feb 2009 /  #263
You call 6200PLN a month money? I call it pocket change. Life is expensive and that amount is peanuts.
ragtime27 1 | 146  
25 Feb 2009 /  #264
most Brits don't want the immigrants here - you're a bit foolish if you think that everyone is a fluffy liberal with open arms!

I wouldn't say most,sure there's a category of poeple who don't welcome new comers.
as an opinion or belief i do respect that,however we can't say to black guy who's his great grand father born in UK or brought as slave he's not welcome as it was said by white guy who his father is Irish.

he's as british as the queen if not more(german ancestor) or prince charles(greek father).

Any race or nation emigrated to other countries have the duty to welcome anybody who decide to come to their country(i'm not talking red carpet,or adverise on TV).

Let me tell you an anecdote,it was journalist asked polish worker representative in UK tv(it happen to be polish): what do you say to british workers who are saying you taking their jobs?

the answer was: I don't see any problem we're whites and christians.

some poeple would welcome a white immigrant but not any other race or religion,that's the problem.

supervised immigration i would say maybe yes,but we can't tell to the asians who were brought to build Britain after the war you're not welcome and go back to your country.

I hope i'm not ranting
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
25 Feb 2009 /  #265
Poland is a gonna become a victim of paranoia and slip and slide like Britain and America. Poland WAS strong a couple of years back but is a credit society. Credit isn't looking too crash hot at the moment, now is it?
Rafal_1981  
25 Feb 2009 /  #266
Crisis? What crisis? Oh, yes, now I remember: if we say one thousand times that there is a crisis it will surely come. So called crisis is basically a financial problem of large financial companies and banks who won't bancrupt because they have found (for our own 'good') a better solution: to pick our (taxpayers) pockets (credit crisis bailout).

Turn off the TV Seanus. You see? There is no crisis except the one we were manipulated to believe :-]
The birds are still singing (about a crisis maybe?) and the water still flows...

Of course I simplified my elaboration a little ;-]



Seanus 15 | 19,706  
26 Feb 2009 /  #267
Oh, I'm with you. It's the perception of people and the non-stop mentioning of it that is getting on my nerves. We have air, we can breathe. We have water, we can drink. We have food, we can eat.

For me, earnings are steady and I don't buy this large-scale paranoia (by those who know jack about economics) at all.
Randal 1 | 577  
26 Feb 2009 /  #268
We have air, we can breathe. We have water, we can drink. We have food, we can eat.

And I have yet to see any bread lines or rationing.
Shawn_H  
26 Feb 2009 /  #269
We have food, we can eat.

Tell that to the soon to be unemployed who are one paycheck from an empty stomach.
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
26 Feb 2009 /  #270
Some hae meat, and canna eat
And some wad eat that want it
But we hae meat and we can eat
So sae the Lord be thankit!

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