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HatefulBunch397  - | 658  
25 Mar 2009 /  #391
However, around the world different countries eat different meats.

Romans used to eat mice.

I expect low-lifes like the Taliban to do that.

Taliban used to dig holes in the center of stadiums to put people in so they could stone them to death. Chinese put bodies of dead prisoners on display in US cities, to show off different organ systems inside the human body. They said they agreed to donate their bodies to science before they were executed.

minnesota.publicradio.org/display/web/2006/05/05/bodyworlds

It was the idea of a German but perfected in China...who exported it and made boatloads of money...
CoolMoon  1 | 60  
25 Mar 2009 /  #392
Romans used to eat mice.

That's right. Ostrich too and thrushes I believe. I meant to write 'different cultures eat different meats'. Same thing almost. I'm sure there are cultures out there that think the west is disgusting for eating cows and pigs.

The west regards the eating of dog, cat or horse in the east as exotic but it's not really, it's just natural there. As natural as eating cow, pig, lamb, chicken in the west.
HatefulBunch397  - | 658  
25 Mar 2009 /  #393
That's right. Ostrich too and thrushes I believe.

Didn't the Romans used to eat Peacocks too?
Seanus  15 | 19666  
25 Mar 2009 /  #394
I heard about that, HB. There's plenty of material available on Afghanistan on Youtube. The reporter wasn't allowed into the stadium but a young boy told him what they were doing.

There's also plenty of the repair work that troops are doing, winning the hearts and minds of local Afghans.
CoolMoon  1 | 60  
25 Mar 2009 /  #395
Didn't the Romans used to eat Peacocks too?

Yes and parrots and flamingos...and actually cows udders were a bit of a delicacy for them as well. I think they stuffed the udders with something but not sure what. Whatever it is, I would imagine that somewhere in the world, all these things are still eaten at some point, even if only by a small minority.
SeanBM  34 | 5781  
25 Mar 2009 /  #396
What is the difference between eating Dog, Monkey, Cow or Pig?

I don't know.
HatefulBunch397  - | 658  
25 Mar 2009 /  #397
Yes and parrots and flamingos...

They had food from the places they conquered, like Egypt. They also imported animals for their circuses from these locales too. They must have been attracted to flamboyant birds adorned with ornate, colorful feathers. Seems like a Flamingo would be a skimpy meal, tho.
CoolMoon  1 | 60  
25 Mar 2009 /  #398
Seems like a Flamingo would be a skimpy meal, tho.

Yes, generally these things were part of a more elaborate menu though. It may have been a second or third course.

They had food from the places they conquered, like Egypt.

That's true. They picked up local delicacies as they went along. So I suppose they were multicultural in a way.
HatefulBunch397  - | 658  
25 Mar 2009 /  #399
That's true. They picked up local delicacies as they went along. So I suppose they were multicultural in a way.

Om gosh the Romans were the most multicultural of all!!! They were truly so. Only problem was, they had too many slaves and not enough citizens. By today's standards, they would be judged as oppressive slave owners.
Wahldo  
25 Mar 2009 /  #400
The west regards the eating of dog, cat or horse in the east as exotic but it's not really, it's just natural there.

Have you eaten a dog? Russians are in the East and they don't eat dogs and they've had their share of hungry times. I'll ask Sasha but I doubt they do.
Seanus  15 | 19666  
25 Mar 2009 /  #401
I don't think they do, Wahldo. I remember a case last year where a man killed his best friend for trying to eat his dog. This was in Russia.
pgtx  29 | 3094  
25 Mar 2009 /  #402
I remember a case last year where a man killed his best friend for trying to eat his dog.

good...
Seanus  15 | 19666  
25 Mar 2009 /  #403
Exactly, what kind of idiot would do that?
Wahldo  
25 Mar 2009 /  #404
remember a case last year where a man killed his best friend for trying to eat his dog. This was in Russia.

There ya' go. The cebaka is sacred with those guys. I don't think you can justify eating a dog unless you're starving, like they had to in the Yukon back in the day.
Randal  1 | 577  
25 Mar 2009 /  #405
Accepting multiculturalism is to also see that cultures vary

This could descend into an argument into, well, you eat chicken so why not dog?

That’s exactly right. And then you good folks will be accused of being insensitive to the immigrant culture.
Heck, in some primitive places they still eat people. Will we civilized folks also be expected to accommodate this “cultural” relic?
“Hey, so what if they eat people. Show some tolerance for cultural diversity! What are you, insensitive?” Crap.
This is the sort of thing everyone will have to “wake up to” with all that multiculturalling going on.
Seanus  15 | 19666  
25 Mar 2009 /  #406
I agree, Randal. Peaceful coexistence until you cross that line of decency and into my domain. This is idealistic PC BS that we could do without. I rue the day when dog hits menus here. The Poles have too much love for their pets to stoop that low.
CoolMoon  1 | 60  
25 Mar 2009 /  #407
Om gosh the Romans were the most multicultural of all!!!

They were certainly willing to try out foods from other cultures, that's for sure.

Have you eaten a dog? Russians are in the East and they don't eat dogs and they've had their share of hungry times. I'll ask Sasha but I doubt they do.

I haven't personally eaten dog but there are a lot of world dishes I haven't tried. Maybe Sasha has/hasn't eaten dog, I don't know. Regardless of whether he has or hasn't it doesn't reflect the whole of Russia though, does it? There will be parts of Russia where dog is/was eaten.

That’s exactly right. And then you good folks will be accused of being insensitive to the immigrant culture.
Heck, in some primitive places they still eat people. Will we civilized folks also be expected to accommodate this “cultural” relic?
“Hey, so what if they eat people. Show some tolerance for cultural diversity! What are you, insensitive?” Crap.
This is the sort of thing everyone will have to “wake up to” with all that multiculturalling going on.

Indeed in some tribes they do eat each other. Just because I learn and know about a thing does not mean I condone it or have to accept it. I am simply learning/have learned about other cultures in the world past and present.

I rue the day when dog hits menus here.

Who said it will? It most likely will NEVER make any western menu. That doesn't mean that it isn't eaten in other cultures.
Randal  1 | 577  
25 Mar 2009 /  #408
until you cross that line of decency and into my domain

It’s coming, buddy.

Not all cultures are created equal. Some folks seem to think decency is subjective. It shouldn’t be. The host culture should serve as the guiding norm.

“You want to eat dogs and cats? Well then go to where they do that. Don’t bring that crap here where we don’t.”

And I’ll gladly take the “insensitive” tag.
HatefulBunch397  - | 658  
25 Mar 2009 /  #409
I rue the day when dog hits menus here.

Seanus, I doubt you have anything to worry about. People in US or Europe most likely will never approve of the consumption of either dogs or cats.

They were certainly willing to try out foods from other cultures, that's for sure.

I read they prepared food in ways that are very different from what most of us are used to.

Heck, in some primitive places they still eat people.

Some people think eating animals's just as bad.
Seanus  15 | 19666  
25 Mar 2009 /  #410
Cool Moon, I rue the day doesn't mean it's a realistic prospect :)

Randal, right on! It's like Sharia Law in the UK. We were good enough to grant Muslims freedom of religion but we don't practise extended courtesy. We have our boundaries.
Randal  1 | 577  
25 Mar 2009 /  #411
We have our boundaries.

Some forces are determined to trample all such boundaries as they coerce all this multiculturalism on us. We're just seeing the begining of it.
HatefulBunch397  - | 658  
25 Mar 2009 /  #412
We're just seeing the begining of it.

Just wait until Penguin hits the menus :S
Seanus  15 | 19666  
25 Mar 2009 /  #413
Who or what did you have in mind, which forces? America has always been fairly multicultural anyway. What foreign cultures would you object to, Randal?

HB, I know and God Bless for that.
Randal  1 | 577  
26 Mar 2009 /  #414
Who or what did you have in mind, which forces?

What forces? Well, who is pushing all this multiculturalism on us? The One Worlders and PCers and the like. Also less evolved cultures that stand to benefit the most from mingling of cultures, and the PCers who enable them. You better believe that if you were to experience significant concentrations of immigrants that this will be followed by demands to accommodate the cultural traits they’ll bring with them. You’re seeing the start of it with the Sharia Law BS.

Didn’t we talk about all this before, this unholy mixing of divergent cultures?
HatefulBunch397  - | 658  
26 Mar 2009 /  #415
I don't have a problem with multiculturalism myself. That doesn't worry me since America has always been multicultural. It's the American way because we have so many who are here because their grandparents or someone further generations back moved here from elsewhere. What concerns me more than immigration is imperialism.
CoolMoon  1 | 60  
26 Mar 2009 /  #416
Randal,

what is all your PC nonsense? I am partly talking about ancient history and partly talking about cultures in the world of today. A lot of what happens in other cultures comes from ancient history, particularly in rural areas. Take a bigger look at the world, travel. If you can't travel then read, read more than wiki. Talk to people who have traveled. Study things.
Randal  1 | 577  
26 Mar 2009 /  #417
CoolMoon

Goway.
Seanus  15 | 19666  
26 Mar 2009 /  #418
Cultures just won't mingle and merge, Randal. This is what makes us different. Look at the EU, a broad spectrum of cultures yet semi-cohesive governance in many areas. Peaceful coexistence is the way forward.
Randal  1 | 577  
26 Mar 2009 /  #419
Personally, I think the world would be a better place if everyone just stayed with their own kind and only go visit other cultures, then return home. This would make for less mixing and less conflict and less PC leveraging.
pgtx  29 | 3094  
26 Mar 2009 /  #420
I think the world would be a better place if everyone just stayed with their own kind and only go visit other cultures, then return home.

how boring...

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