Interesting. why do the gerries need 1000 tanks? :-]
And why do we need 960 tanks?
Could you provide a link to that article?
No i'm lazy, go to pancerni.net or something and ask around, Germany has 500-600~ tanks in active service and upwards of 1000 in total, originally they built over 2000 but they sold many to Sweden, Low Countries, Poland and others.
Heh...Poles bailed out by a whole alliance after being marched over in only some weeks can hardly count as winning! :)
We're talking about Vienna? The same Vienna where in two battles Poles break the back of the entire Turkish army, the same Vienna where the presence of Polish shock troops was the single factor due to which German states survived? As for Grunwald, no we're nottalking about it, we're talking about the following teutonic wars, the thirteen years war, the Gollub War, the Hunger War, the pacification of Prussia and loss of most of its army during the Swedish invasion or the repeated Prussian failures under Warsaw and even in the face of majority of the Polish forces facing Russia.
Finally not military but defnitely militant takeover of the Prussian occupied Polish lands after WW1 when Polish militias overpower German Police and military, Polish military incompetence is a myth and while Germany certainly produced competent soldiers its military power is equally overblown, just the other way around.
BTW: leopard is a first 3rd generation tank (developed in early 70's in service since 1979).
I'm sorry i always get the two mixed up.
That is crap...the prussian heritage is very well alive.
Many values the Germans are famous for like hard working, prudence, thrift etc. are prussian values.
A lost war doesn't kill the spirit...or you Poles would have lost it long since.
Many values the Germans are famous for like hard working, prudence, thrift etc. are prussian values.
A lost war doesn't kill the spirit...or you Poles would have lost it long since.
Nope, what you describe is are general civilizational and cultural traits aquired and shaped by Germans over the centuries, the militant philosophy of Prussia and by extention of the Reich was what made Prussian spirit and that part died for good, you have said yourself that Germans are content, what you fail to notice is the reasons behind said content.
Initially it was the trauma of having caused such a war, while most Germans were vaguely aware of what the business was about, after the war they had to face it up front and i imagine thats not easy, as a result an extremely benevolent social system and family model was created.
While Germany has a militant streak deep down the "Prussian spirit" was an artificial construct which came and now went.
As for us Poles over the last several centuries we've developed a weird martyrologic romantic culture, defeats make us stronger since we instantly glorify them, on the downside we forget that for the better part of history we were the winners, the point here is that our culture through odd quirks of history is better suited to deal with getting spanked, Germany first responded with Hitler and now with severe identity crisis.