Russia and Poland possibility of the alliance

The most perfect form of the alliance between Poland and Russia was in times of Nicolas I. We should protect Poland against herself first.

Kostia, you're in your same old fashion.

So why did they invaded Poland(twice) and treated the poles like trash? Or maybe you weren't taught that part of history?


Oh yes, the Russians love us Poles so much they invaded Poland not once but TWICE in the same century!

See here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_invasion_of_Poland_(1939)

And here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish-Soviet_War

i can clearly imagine Parliament of eventual future Slavic Confederation

So far so good.... For the first time Putin is coming to visit Poland.

It doesn't have anything to do firstly with Russians and secondly with the current state of affairs.
You just don't want to bother yourself with the more careful view on the Russian history of the last century and on the bolshewik's problem which is ok... but if you did, that might explain a lot to you.

With 200 russian members out of 300?

Actually the better alliance was in the times of Smuta when we protected Russia against herself first :-))

Dude..why are you trying to deny the crimes the Russians did on Polish land?? I dont really care what Russians called themselves back then they were still russians.

Maybe that's the keyword... you don't care if the Russians were actually Russians. :)
Then sorry for misunderstanding you at first. I was talking about Russians who liked you. I can't speak for juice.
At leisure take a quick look on the list of NKVD top-persons. You're likely to learn a lot.


I've never denied Soviet crimes on Polish land neither I ever denied Soviet crimes on Russian land against Russians.

post-gazette.com/pg/09113/964701-60.stm

how that? if we speak of democratic Slavic Confederation (or if you want Alliance) it won`t be so. I mean, it can be only if democratic

Let me remind you how is vast Slavic world diversed and numerous: Poland, Ukraine, Russia, Byelorussia, Czeska, Slovakia, Slovenia, Serbia, Montenegro, Croatia, Bulgaria, Macedonia, Bosnia-Herzegovina. Of course Lusatia that is on the way, too.

Then, there are countries that are strongly connected with Slavs, heavely influenced with Slavic culture: Hungary, Moldova, Lithuania, Letonia, Estonia, Abkhazia, South Ossetia, Kazahstan, Romania and Greece. Of course Padania (Northern Italy) that is on the way, too. All these countries are also eventual candidadtes for future Slavic confederation.

on the end... Parliament of Democratic Slavic Confederation should consists of two crucial chambers (for example):

1 - The House of Representatives of citizens (representative represent % of population)- `one man one voice`
2 - The House of Representatives of states (representatives represent countries)- `one country one voice`

Confederal organization of Union/Alliance is guaranty of specific local interests. Union/Alliance itself is guaranty for personal and collective freedom, progress, safety and sustain development considering vast resources of Slavija.

Let's live separately like friends and not like room-mates who begin to cough when you are making love. It is much more intersting to deal with one another than be forced to find out ways to solve every sneeze of a different Slav.


So what about Slovakia and Montenegro which don't have that many people compared to some others "giants"? What will happen to their interests in the Confederation? And representatives of the states will have as much influence as much resouces of energy they possess. Or you want to introduce liberum veto # 2 which will lead the Confederation into the abyss and will make it unfunctional? Plus Russia in the democratic confederation - what is it an oxymoron? Stop unite everyone, leave communists dream on with their ideas. Let's move forward on a business basis, not some utopico-kissing-licking-brothers-forever ideas.

balance should be achieved thru The House of Representatives of states (representatives represent countries)- `one country one voice`

We speaks only hipotheticaly. I`m not an expert in `state organization`. So, feel free to offer better solution for Democratic Slavic Confederation/Alliance


say that to universal Borg called EU and NATO world policeman that is tool of it


are you member of mafia?


i guaranteed to you... today`s Russia is far less idiotic then today`s USA, Britain or France

For me, Poland is West and Russia is on the way to become Western.

Good idea Crow, I know several slavs from all walks that are thinking that way. I could see this happening in the next 100-150 years. As we move into a multi-polar world, and the dwindling of the western powers I could see a Slavic Confederacy emerging.

Only problem is can bitter feelings from historic feuds impede this. Also is Russia going to behave or is the bear going to sit himself at the head of the table and not share the honey? Plus the populations of most if not all Slavic countries is slowly declining.

Sasha the proble is that the Soviet regime is the result of the failure of Russians to create a mature self-conscious society, Soviets are what Russians today at their core are like, thats what centuries of Tsardom under different names did to you.

crow, i read what u say about my homecountry. man, what is wrong with you?? what did albania ever do to u, you are a crazy man.

Excpet from kidnapping Serbs and deriving their organs for selling them?

man, what your problem? you are serb then? you know whta happened at kosovo, at srebrenica. serbs killed and mutilated, decapitated many albanians there simply bc they were albanian, or muslims.

kidnapping serbs? when this happen? 50 years ago?

And what happened to Mrs. Carla del Ponte?! She must be Serbian too... at heart. lol


It's happening at the moment. Gosh... I revealed my nationality as well.

Sokrates, this what Russians had been before the revolution and after actually two different things. The later appeared hybrid might be called "sovok". There was a try to implant totally different values, thankfully they failed. They tried to destroy faith and they never succeeded.

Now I notice that the average Russian's slowly deviating from the Soviet turn of mind.

why you are so ignorant toward my country??

Towards Canada? :) What's wrong with it? Canada is a nice country with a great opportunities for everybody.... even for alboes who yesterday disemboweled Serbian children.

So what ignorant do you mean? Could you explain?

Towards Albania man. you are a sick bastard. disembowel children?? what u even talking about

:) "Tell me why, why, why... whaiaiaiay"? So far you've basically said nothing but name calling. Is this your last argument?


You may or may not know the truth. But I strongly suggest that you face reality taking off pink glasses. With no admission from both sides there would be never ending story.

The revolution was Russias chance for greatness, the economic leap proved what kind of an awesome potential Russians have IF given freedom, that chance was squandered.


Which is why Russia as a country will collapse and either fall apart into smaller states or redefine itself, Russians are facing an extreme identity crisis courtesy of Lenin, Trocki and Stalin.

Hva faen?

I thought they came from Finland?

My bad, i get nordic countries mixed up, you're all the same anyway, horned helmets, axes and all that.

Are you muja? If so, just tell me are you aware that you are probably first mujaheedine who visited Polishforums.com? My congrats


i don`t give a flying d**k for propaganda of false west against Serbians.

Serbs didn`t start Civil War but you muja Albanians in NATO/EU organization in alliance with germanized Slavs from Croatia and turkinized-islamized Slavs from Bosnia-Herzegovina. Then plus Arab league and NATO achieved agreament how to split Balkan on their zones of control and all those beasts attacked Serbian civilians.

After you killed too much Serbians on most bestial ways in town of Srebrenica, general Ratko Mladic was respond. Mladic was cure, angel of revange and last hope for those Serbs who were still alive in Srebrenica.

Well, I'm off to the Balkans next week. I guess that I'll have positive contact with people from all the countries I go to.

I imagine that Albanians will be fine too but no thanks to Mujas. Muslim fanatics are not welcome.

just don`t speak Polish or they would extract your organs faster then your imagination can even imagine what`s happening


if mujas capture you, try to convince them that you believe in NATO-muja axis. That, maybe save you and yes... plus tell them that you greately hate Serbs