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Pope's would-be killer wants to move to Poland


cyg 5 | 119  
2 May 2008 /  #1
I wonder whether this is some kind of publicity stunt or if he's really suicidal:

Mehmet Ali Agca, the man who tried to kill Pope John Paul II in 1981, has applied for Polish citizenship and would like to settle in Poland after he is done serving his sentence for another crime in 2010, the PAP news agency reported on Friday. Agca's attorney Haci Ali Ozhan also said that the would-be assassin and convicted murderer would like to serve the remainder of his sentence in a Polish prison.

nwe.pl/National.php?article_id=431
plk123 8 | 4,150  
2 May 2008 /  #2
i wonder what the PL gov. will do.
LAGirl 9 | 496  
2 May 2008 /  #3
I dont like this new Pope> Pope John Paul 11 the the best Pope.
Bratwurst Boy 6 | 10,527  
2 May 2008 /  #4
The turks are coming...beware!

:)
polishcanuck 7 | 462  
2 May 2008 /  #5
He will have to be very careful in Poland. Ksiadz Rydzyk and his posse of babcias will be after him no doubt.

The turks are coming...beware!

:)

Don't get too excited kraut. They'll eventually make it to Little Turkey aka Berlin to reunite with their brothers and sisters.
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
2 May 2008 /  #6
Don't belittle the Turks, they had a major say in 9/11, along with Pakistan. They are more influential than u think
Bratwurst Boy 6 | 10,527  
2 May 2008 /  #7
They'll eventually make it to Little Turkey aka Berlin to reunite with their brothers and sisters.

Spoil sport! :(
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
2 May 2008 /  #8
Is it Kreuzberg in Berlin that is full of Turks? That's what's making u Germans fat, all those kebabs
Bratwurst Boy 6 | 10,527  
2 May 2008 /  #9
Kreuzberg AND Neukölln!

And it's "Döner" not Kebab....

For being fat...for that we just need a good, old fashioned war to get trim again...any volunteers? :)
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
2 May 2008 /  #10
Doner is a type of kebab
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163  
2 May 2008 /  #11
The funniest thing is that a guy wants to be transfered to a Polish prison.
plk123 8 | 4,150  
2 May 2008 /  #12
yeah, i thought that too. lol
strzyga 2 | 993  
2 May 2008 /  #13
I've read about Turkish prisons and I'm not surprised. On the other hand, I don't suppose he'd get overwhelmingly popular with the Polish prisoners, so he might get burned on this.
isisores - | 46  
2 May 2008 /  #14
one time here they set him free for a short time, he claimed that he's the christ and got back to the earth. even his big brother said something like "my brother is the christ, vatican approved this too. he was writing a new bible etc.." :D so you guys should know that christ is back but we put him in prison you better save him like he says:p
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163  
2 May 2008 /  #15
he claimed that he's the christ

Yes... I heard that...
RockyMason 19 | 250  
26 May 2008 /  #16
Dude that is such a shame he didn't succeed in his mission! John Paul deserved to be shot!
hello 22 | 891  
26 May 2008 /  #17
But you don't deserve to be called a homo sapiens.
z_darius 14 | 3,968  
26 May 2008 /  #18
John Paul deserved to be shot!

why?
osiol 55 | 3,922  
26 May 2008 /  #19
John Paul deserved to be shot!

Who are you to pass sentence?
plk123 8 | 4,150  
26 May 2008 /  #20
why?

good Q.

i'm thinking mr. mason is looking to get abused when in PL. he must be a masochists but then i always knew those masons were a little funny.
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
30 May 2008 /  #21
The Pope may have forgiven him but most Poles wouldn't. What a cheek, how dare he behave that way. Beat the living daylights out of him
Puzzy 1 | 150  
31 May 2008 /  #22
I wonder whether this is some kind of publicity stunt or if he's really suicidal

- Why would he be 'suicidal'? You mean that Poles can kill him? Why would you mean it so?

The Pope may have forgiven him but most Poles wouldn't.

- And you how do you know 'most Poles wouldn't' forgive him? And if they even didn't forgive him, why would you condemn them for that? In reality,

Poles are way too forgiving, unlike some other nations
who hate their former oppressors so intensely that they even commit acts of terrorism against them. Would you condemn those nations, pal? If you wouldn't, wouldn't it

be hypocritical of you to slam the Poles who, actually, don't hate and don't engage in terrorism?

The proof for this excessive softness and forgiveness of the Poles is, for instance, the fact that Father Popieluszko's killer, one Piotrowski, is not only alive but very well indeed. Some time ago he was working (and maybe is still working) for an extremely anti-Catholic rag. Another evidence of the Poles' excessive gentleness is the fact that they have not retaliated for the hate propaganda against and

beatings and killings of the Poles working abroad. The Poles are so gentle precisely because the Catholic Church conditions them to be so. We should be less forgiving though. I myself never forgive and have been teaching my countrymen to do the same. Beware all of you who are doing us harm.

:)
OP cyg 5 | 119  
31 May 2008 /  #23
- Why would he be 'suicidal'? You mean that Poles can kill him? Why would you mean it so?

He said he wanted to serve out the remainder of his sentence in a Polish prison. We're talking Polish inmates, not Poles in general. If he survived prison, he might stay alive.
Puzzy 1 | 150  
31 May 2008 /  #24
We're talking Polish inmates

- How do you know they would want to kill him? The criminal element anywhere at all seem not to be overly religious. The Catholic Church has never been too popular among criminals in Poland (re robberies of churches, killings of priests). Piotrowski, Father Popieluszko's killer, survived prison intact.
southern 75 | 7,096  
31 May 2008 /  #25
The funniest thing is that a guy wants to be transfered to a Polish prison.

Maybe he wants some slavic genes.
Puzzy 1 | 150  
31 May 2008 /  #26
By the way, cyg, perhaps you're projecting the culture prevalent in American prisons on its counterpart in Poland? Polish prisons seem to be peaceful kindergartens compared to American prisons.
VaFunkoolo 6 | 654  
31 May 2008 /  #27
Could you share your personal experience of Polish and American prisons with us please, Puzzy, so that we may understand the basis on which you make this statement.
Puzzy 1 | 150  
31 May 2008 /  #28
Could you share your personal experience of Polish and American prisons with us please, Puzzy

- Why would you rather trust what I can say about my personal experience than what I'm saying in my above post? How would you know that what I'm saying in my above post isn't derived from my personal experience?
southern 75 | 7,096  
31 May 2008 /  #29
the culture prevalent in American prisons

I think there is 70% of black population in american prisons.
VaFunkoolo 6 | 654  
31 May 2008 /  #30
How would you know that what I'm saying in my above post isn't derived from my personal experience?

I of course don't know that but would expect someone who was saying that A is better than B would have some personal experience on which to base their claim.

It is always refreshing to have people speak from personal experience on the forum and if you have this of Polish or American prisons then please share.

So many here seem to base their assumptions on other peoples' words. Hardly credible, wouldn't you agree?

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