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What do Poles think of current President of Poland?


ShaneConrad 1 | 11  
31 Mar 2008 /  #1
Both of Kaczynski brothers gained a lot of respect in their Solidarity days, but I would think that recent actions and statements coming from President Kaczynski have to raise questions in the country if he is the right man to represent Poland on this level. His homophobia or statements that internet is for deviant, porn seeking teenagers prove that he doesn't know the world that sourounds him. I am not asking if you are anti or pro gay, or if you recognize the value of internet. I would appreciate the following 1. Your opinion about President Kaczynski and 2. Do you know what does public think of him in Poland?
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163  
31 Mar 2008 /  #2
current President of Poland

Very good.
Kowalski 7 | 621  
1 Apr 2008 /  #3
President Kaczynski ? - total ass. He should resign as he obviously is a one party President. As to what public think about him, opinion polls are here quite fair. Probably no President had such low popularity in polls ever. Funny that his low popularity is largely due to PR mistakes by his stuff. His power games are pathetic. I'm just glad it's PM who has real power in Poland not President office.
poly - | 17  
1 Apr 2008 /  #4
President Kaczynski ? - total ass. He should resign

i like to give him free english lessons
Lukasz 49 | 1,746  
1 Apr 2008 /  #5
I haven't been voting on him. I don't agree with him in many points. When it comes to Ukraine I agree with him in 100% the same as PM Tusk agrees with him in this case. This is why he is going to represent us on NATO summit.
krysia 23 | 3,057  
1 Apr 2008 /  #6
He's short, fat and ugly. He talks funny, his lips are drooling, he has a stupid expression, doesn't look like a leader.
poly - | 17  
1 Apr 2008 /  #7
his boil potatoes national pl
ukpolska  
1 Apr 2008 /  #8
Very good.

Errrmm, not from the embarrassed Poles that I speak to and the guy has no grasp on reality and is making a mockery of Poles on the world stage.
OP ShaneConrad 1 | 11  
1 Apr 2008 /  #9
When it comes to Ukraine I agree with him in 100% the same as PM Tusk agrees with him in this case. This is why he is going to represent us on NATO summit.

He apparently has some brains, one can see that even from his Solidarity days. It is just beyond me how person that has proven that has the ability to process more than basic thoughts can lack common sense to the extend he he does. Perhaps he grew up sheltered life and hasn't been exposed to a lot of things (e.g. using banking services), but at some point if you read, talk to other people and have some intellect you can draw conclusions on your own. He probably is so arrogant that he doesn't even consider other points of view. I don't have any other explanation.
matthias 3 | 429  
1 Apr 2008 /  #10
I like him.... I like Tusk because he's more internationally concerned, and I like Kaczynski because he's more nationalistic.... They provide a nice counter balance to each other. Them having to work together, helps achieve a middle ground from the two extremes. As we all know the truth is always somewhere in the middle... Same goes for the right course for Poland....

Their are issues I agree with Tusk and their are issues I agree with Kaczynski... Poland needs them both....

Now as far as how they handle themselves... Tusk is much more sophisticated and I like his style.... Though it's important, their are things much more important. Tusk is unwilling to ruffle feathers and sometimes thats exactly what we need to do. It all depends on the situation. Differant tasks, differant politicans are needed to handle them. If we need to compromise, Tusk is the man.... Great compromiser and negotiator... If we need to hold our ground, then Kaczynski is the man for the job.
lesser 4 | 1,311  
1 Apr 2008 /  #11
I don't really like him, I have a bit better opinion about him before he was elected. Still I prefer him over Kwaśniewski or Wałęsa. This is good that he is so dependent from his brother because Jarosław is not socialistic to this extend. His loyalty to Brussels makes me sick.
OP ShaneConrad 1 | 11  
1 Apr 2008 /  #12
If we need to hold our ground, then Kaczynski is the man for the job.

I agree that Kaczynski has a good approach to certain things and in fact I share some of his points of view. However his approach to gay matters, modern life style issues (use of internet, banking), employing entrapment to prove corruption and many others put him in very negative light. I don't really care if I agree with ones points of view and beliefs. I can respect people that differ in an opinion from mine. There are certain things, though, that I cannot overlook. He is just close minded on some issues ("close minded" being very mild expression of what he really is). He is not well rounded person! If you select someone as a leader of the country you expect certain qualities from that person that can put him on this same playing field with other leaders. He just doesn't belong there!
matthias 3 | 429  
1 Apr 2008 /  #13
employing entrapment to prove corruption

I always wanted to debate this..... if a person isn't corrupt than he won't take the bait regardless of the manner the bribe is presented.....
OP ShaneConrad 1 | 11  
1 Apr 2008 /  #14
if a person isn't corrupt than he won't take the bait regardless of the manner the bribe is presented

I apologize matthias, but I think this is naive thinking (not saying you are naive, but the way you reason here is). People hired to trap others on criminal behavior are professionals at tempting. It is like saying a strong person will never sin. Even God recognized that people are sinful and have their weaknesses. Tempting was the "devil's" job; God did not send Angels to tempt. But let's get off this Christian horse and think of your weaknesses. Let's say it is women, and let's say prostitution is illegal (don't know where you live)... If I hire a hot, smart, witty police officer to try to trap you so you offer her money for sex you are cooked! It is wrong to make someone a criminal and then catch them on it, you just catch criminals, e.g. those who give bribes and those who take it!
matthias 3 | 429  
1 Apr 2008 /  #15
People hired to trap others on criminal behavior are professionals at tempting. It is like saying a strong person will never sin.

So because everybody does it makes it okey????

If I hire a hot, smart, witty police officer to try to trap you so you offer her money for sex you are cooked!

Ill probably take the bait, but i won't be complaining when I get caught, I knew exactly what I was doing.....

your point is, your saying everybody is corrupt and so let's not try to nip the problem in the butt.... Truth is politicians will think twice about taking a bribe once they see that the next bribe they take can be coming from a undercover officer...
OP ShaneConrad 1 | 11  
1 Apr 2008 /  #16
your point is, your saying everybody is corrupt and so let's not try to nip the problem in the butt....

I am far from saying that everyone is corrupt. I am saying two things: 1. Everyone is human and has his(her) weaknesses so if you want to you will always find a way to corrupt that person. Having weaknesses doesn't make us corrupt, but just human! and 2. It is immoral to make someone criminal and then catch this person and punish him.
matthias 3 | 429  
1 Apr 2008 /  #17
Everyone is human and has his(her) weaknesses so if you want to you will always find a way to corrupt that person. Having weaknesses doesn't make us corrupt, but just human

very true, however as long as the entrapment is reasonable..... not like offering someone a billion dollars because everybody would probably take that deal.....

It is immoral to make someone criminal and then catch this person and punish him.

how is that making a person a criminal, he or she has a choice to take the bribe or not.... Let me tell you if I was a politian I wouldn't be bought for any amount of money.... now I don't think entrapment should be used against a regular joe, but a politician is supposed to be held to a higher standard especially because his decision can effect and hurt the entire country..
Lukasz 49 | 1,746  
1 Apr 2008 /  #18
Same goes for the right course for Poland....

You are not is Poland. Right ? ;)

I am not going to comment weaknesses of our president... ;)

he is not very popular in Poland. ...
matthias 3 | 429  
1 Apr 2008 /  #19
You are not is Poland. Right ? ;)

Im not following....... I think Poland has been acting perfectly since Tusk become Prime Minister.... with a few minor problems here and there but nothing significant

I am not going to comment weaknesses of our president... ;)

yes, he has many weaknesses, however Tusk's makes up for those... as the President makes up for Tusk's weaknesses.

he is not very popular in Poland. ...

i know..........
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163  
1 Apr 2008 /  #20
modern life style issues (use of internet, banking)

In both cases that's about Jaro. Banking was about not giving opportunities for provocations - sending him money and accuse of corruption. In case of internet he has a quite good point - read what he really said. Ducks are just not good buddies with big business and that's why they have bad press.
lesser 4 | 1,311  
2 Apr 2008 /  #21
I have to admit they (we... I am one of them although not living in Poland) are getting better.

This is really funny that you raise the issue of nationality. Majority of Poles don't seems to be opposed to giving up more and more competences from hands of local politicians to completely unknown for them Euro-bureaucrats. Those people would probably agree to have completely unknown for them president of the EU. In this circumstances your argument sounds ridiculous if you are one of those Poles mentioned above.

If Polish politicians are not worth any trust they should be simply fired I would have not problems with signing contract with Mr Klaus, a serious, successful and honest man.
Crow 146 | 9,103  
3 Apr 2008 /  #22
What do Poles think of current President of Poland?

crossed my mind, philosophicaly

If me (Serbian) or, for example some Ukrainian, consider himself as Sarmatian, am i also Polish by anology, if we consider that Poles consider themselves as Sarmatians, too.

what i want to ask- are Serbs or/and Ukrainians free to answer same question... What do Poles think of current President of Poland? - considering that it is question adressed to Poles
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
14 Dec 2008 /  #23
He allegedly did well at the latest EU Summit but, then again, it's just the opinion of the media. The media shakes more than just hands ;)

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