Nazism in Poland - A recipe for mass suicide?

OMG, we're posting in nazi thread...OK, how about, if I paint swastikas back wards on the pompoms?

HMMMMM?? You think it will make the Devil come out of them??LOL

Phils Win!!

I dont have a problem with him telling it like it is.. I have a problem with him telling
me I am a nazi.. which he could tell you too, because hes sometimes displays
bi-polar tendancies.. he has taken many posts and twisted them to make alot
of good people who are members look bad.. including our mods/admin

I started to think he was actually becoming a decent person.. but then I tell my
opinion which wasnt directed at him, and he then accuses me of being something
I am way far from.. and when pointing out his mistakes he cant even
provide facts, yet he asks the whole forum to prove it.. all the time..

I agree that he has alot of knowledge in alot of things, and I was proud of him
a few times.. but I did lose alot of respect that day.. and dont think I will gain
it back very soon..

My youngest daughter has german and Polish.. I want her to learn as much as she
can, but to keep a open mind. I dont want to teach her hate. so that she can say
well, I do not belong anywhere, I should not learn my familys past. I should not
learn anything about it because so much has happened and I do not want to tell
anyone from where I come from because people might accuse me of this..

or she may say, well i am not worth enough because of my heritage...

no F*ck that..I dont want her to hate.. thats what I feel is being shared here
and I dont like it one bit. she wanted to join this forum. we even looked for a
childrens polish forum.. but I wont let her see this.. I wont let her see accusations
flying.. its unfortunate that he chooses to do that, because I did at one point think
maybe there is a better person inside the real puzzy.

Thanks Eurola and Kaczor. I don't mind ye being my groupie, Eurola. ;)
Yeah, the chutzpah of the germans is so awful today that I have thought it doesn't need being pointed at to some (I don't mean you). But then again the germans have always been so - first they attack somebody aggressively, and when they get beaten up, they portray themselves as the victim. And they have always been careful not to offend the stronger, only the weaker. That's why today they are 'respectful' towards e.g. the Russians and Brits, but they vilify the Poles. We're the scapegoats on whom to vent all the frustrations and inferiority complexes. (Anyhow, racism and contempt towards us are deeply, hopelessly deeply-embedded in german culture; its enough to read e.g. such Max Weber or even Thomas Mann, and recently Gunther GraSS, the ex-Waffen SS-man awarded the Nobel n literature) But if, say, Britain got weak, then, in all the probability, the germans would start vilifying her beyond measure and e.g. demand, yes, reparations for the alleged Brit offences towards the germans, such as the Allied - totally justified - bombings of german cities during WWII.

Yeah, our Maciej Giertych is right by suggesting that the pig-headed Merkel resembles Hitler a lot. By the way, Merkle once suggested that her much admired historical figure is the 18th century Muscovy ruler called in English Catherine the Great (she was german).

Will we see yet Merkel grunting threateningly from from her throne in the Kremlin?
;)

You know Puzz...when you (and G) see Merkel as Hitler then I'm gladly a Nazi! :)

your garter's slipped Betty

Heil Daisy!

I hope you're not getting too used to wearing that little red number ;)

Puzzler,
Is the theme of the New World, NO PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY!! Portrey being a victim even if you are the agrssor, ....I was beaten when I was a kid...I was molested...I didnt grow up in the best neighborhood..WA WA WA WA..always crying. It fits the new age feelings..when you get emotions involved people can be tricked into thinking they are not so bad.

The Poles are masters of this technique! :)

that's a generalisation isn't it? a bit like saying all Germans are Nazis

And???
I'm just discussing on Puzzies niveau...THIS doesn't seem to disturb you!

Somehow I cant think any major Polish crimes against humanity, while I don't have to look so far to find German ones...

That's why they are whining so much....

I was responding to your statement, not Puzzlers

Exactly!

and who is whingeing and complaining now?


you complained that Puzzie said somewhere that all Germans were Nazis, but then go on to make a generalisation about Poles. I am just saying that you shouldn't complain about Puzzlers accusations when you behave the same way.

I'm not! Heil!

yes you was

That's quite correct.


The respond makes no sense. Are Poles whining because they are not aggressors? ...maybe we just don't have the "savage' within...even on this forum.

Pat, I have a good German friend. She indeed is and there are many like her. I would not join any general German bashing frenzy.

What I don't care for is BB's "we're the greatest" attitude and a cocky, at times insolent, behavior toward Poland. Poland and Germany are neighbors, young people thinking like that, are a danger and should not be ignored or encouraged. Yes, he is entitled to his opinion: blah, blah, blah... and so am I.

We need posters like Puzzler to keep "the young and the restless" in check. Puzz might be harsh at times, but "nice" doesn't always cut it... Go Puzz! :)

Look above, how quick BB turned against Daisy. Now kids, back to your corners.

Nazism in Poland - A recipe for mass suicide?

You're absolutely right but as far as the arrogance I have to admit that even us Poles tend to be arrogant sometimes just like all of the other nations.

you did, I point out that you make a generalisation against Poles, something you don't like when people makes remarks about Germans, and all you do is bleat on about you didn't say that to Puzzie well I wasn't talking to Puzzie, I was picking you up on what you had said

and you did start it

if thats all he stuck too I would be more then happy. but he dont.. I wont cheer
him on when he stabs..

no one really reads the whole posts.. brat came in here defending.. yes he said
some things about poles because he was drawn in by the posts that were said
about germans.. we all defend our countries.. its a given..

How bout this..

Brat.. tell us what you really feel about Polish people and about Poland today
give us all details .. be honest.. what do you have against the poles in general
if anything at all.

also tell us what you think about the nazism or neo nazis in todays society,
and what you think is happening now..

Give us a clearer picture..

How I see it if someone like Puzzy makes the insanest generalizations about Germans it just stays....no post to correct him...nothing.
It seems you agree with him!

The moment I answer in kind you are all over me! But frankly since you are not objective I give a sh*it about your opinion!

Puzzy p*isses on Germans I p*iss on Poles, basta!


What do you suggest I do?

Not reacting at all??? It's a talk board...

You are all transmit and not recieve... I'm trying to tell you that you are not helping yourself, you see it as taking sides..I've had some pretty spectacular arguments with Puzzler in the past, we all have


which is what I have been trying to tell him *rips hair out in frustration*

you know, you have this opinion against poles because why?
your mad at puzzy. not the whole polish nation.. hes the one who said the
words you didnt like..

attacking with generalizations daisy does have a point.. I thought you would catch
that or you did and was just playing with her :)


then brat gets mad, says mean things about poland , the whole board gets mad
at brat.. thus puzzy has made this happen.. and brat falls into it..

I am really tired of trying to figure out the puzzler.. but hes not hard to figure out
Ive summed him up to bi-polar.. everyone was a Polonophobic now everyone is
a Nazi.. or neo nazi.. I wonder which puzzling nation he will pick on next..

I know....cause I watched him do this with you too. He sees where a person's "buttons" are and then pushes them to get you off balance. He even tried to do this with me once.....but I wouldn't take the bait. I like to stay on center. He's very sneaky that way.

But it gets very confusing to the other posters....because they don't follow closely enough to see the dynamic behind the exchange of words.

I like a good debate. I learn something every time. Even about myself. But when Puzzy starts to light the fireworks.....people just get hurt and upset. :(


But it has taken many others a long time to see this.
And it is really hard for Bratski to stand by and accept all the rubbish Puzz hurls at him.


Your welcom, Sis.
But I think about what you and Miranda have been through....and at some point the only thing you can do is walk away from him.....cause it's not a fair fight. And it not that I don't like Puzzly, cause I do, I feel like he can't help himself. But I also thinks he feeds on attention....negative or positive. And he gets fed a lot here.

I just don't like seeing the people I care about getting tossed about on these threads. If it could be a evenly represented, fair debate with useful information.....it would be helpful. But this topic won't get that kind of treatment in the current environment. That's why I said what I did when this thread began........

There are neo nazis everywhere. Put the term in google for forums and they pop up everywhere. The term came out of post war France to denote any people who shared similiar ideology to the orignal Nazi party. It is used today to refer to a wide range of groups with different agendas....from white supremists, to football hooligans or even to refer to overzealous moderation of forums "board nazi" or "nazi mod". The term has a life of its own now. Hell, I even called my ex the "media nazi" cause I never got a chance to play any movie or cd of my choice in the house. He controlled it all. Seinfeld had the famous "Soup Nazi"....."no soup for you!".

whatever.....

agree.

Brat are you ever going to answer those questions?

I have a feeling it would clear the air on alot of things ...
Perhaps you have some useful information for others?

Personally, for myself.. I dont understand why any govts allow such behavior..
even here in America its annoying.. Nazism, kkk, etc

sometimes I wish I was a giant.. so I could take my finger and flick the idiots off
the globe.. like a slingshot.. no more Dupa's here. send them to mars.. here ya
go, your the grand power of the planet mars.. have fun..

Aha! You're here! Actually I have thought about that some more, and I have changed my mind somewhat about the attention seeking part. I think when you attack it may have more to do with disarming your opponent......putting them off balance.

Puzzly, you get back here this instant! I've been waiting to talk to you! :)