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Poland 2007 Elections: PO Won, PIS second


Grzegorz_  51 | 6138  
21 Oct 2007 /  #31
LOL ! Are you 13 ?
Polanglik  11 | 303  
21 Oct 2007 /  #32
Gertych and Lepper OUT :)))))))))))

Great result .... PO win !!!!! Good days ahead for Polska !!

Glad to see the back of Samoobrona & Liga Polskich Rodzin !!

dark day in the history of Poland

Quite the contrary ....... PO win the election .... well done Donald ...... nothing but a bright future for Poland !
Lukasz  49 | 1746  
21 Oct 2007 /  #33
I go % ;) see ya tomorow
slick77  
21 Oct 2007 /  #34
There will be a coalition PO & LiD no alternative for that...
Harry  
21 Oct 2007 /  #35
Apart from a coalition of PO and PSL. And as the PSL are the power-wh0res of Polish politics, they'll be in.

From the figures I see LiD have fallen about 1% short of what they needed. The only way there would be a PO/LiD coalition would be if they could combine to have more than 60% of the votes in parliament and thus over-ride presidential vetoes.
Jonni  
21 Oct 2007 /  #36
PO and PSL have already agreed coalition terms, according to a PO activist last week!
slick77  
21 Oct 2007 /  #37
They won't be able to override presidential veto with PSL (aka power-wh0res) only.
Crow  154 | 9544  
21 Oct 2007 /  #38
Hey Donald, you Kashubian

Hey, man is Kashubian?!?

Interesting
lesser  4 | 1311  
21 Oct 2007 /  #39
Well, we will see whether PO gain majority, I hope so. The last thing we need is another coalition.

I'm a bit disappointed that UPR is out once again. Looks like only UPR voters voted for our committee while all socialistic voters of LPR switched their support to PiS. This is time to build stronger party structures in the region and wait for our turn. I hope that UPR wont make any coalitions anymore.

Good news is the result of the post-communist left, weaker than I expected. Of course lack of Samoobrona in the next parliament also improves my humor a bit.

Tusk has just Kashubian roots, he doesn't speak their language and is not considered among them as "their man". I know what I'm talking about, because I live in Gdansk.

we take our soldiers form Iraq :))))

Of course not, at least in near time.
Lukasz  49 | 1746  
21 Oct 2007 /  #40
Of course not, at least in near time.

We will take them, you will see. Of course we will not retreat like Spain just after elections but we will do it.
Polson  5 | 1767  
21 Oct 2007 /  #41
Of course we will not retreat like Spain just after elections but we will do it.

I hope so, this war is total crap, useless and is a real pain for everyone : soldiers and inhabitants. Stop the mess, please !
lesser  4 | 1311  
21 Oct 2007 /  #42
Actually Muslims fight each other more than our soldiers. So, mess will continue anyway. However I think that we should withdrawn.
Lukasz  49 | 1746  
21 Oct 2007 /  #43
I hope so, this war is total crap, useless and is a real pain for everyone : soldiers and inhabitants. Stop the mess, please !

I think it is more than sure. Only PiS wanted them to stay ...

What can be interesting, results of this election show the reality we live in Poland. I have seen so many discussions about what LPR wanted to do, or SO. And now they have 1.5 % of votes and it is their end. I wouldnt be surprised seeing Lepper in prison. There will be no our PM in Radio M. What can be interesting PO should try to "eat" LiD in the same way PiS did with LPR & SO. We will have Democrats and Republicans in Poland ;) (there are some differences but it is example).

What can we see in up coming mounths, Poland will be much more european what means we will rather think about our relationsips in europe.

Relations with Germans will be much better, and we will discuss about problems instead talking about nazists.
Economy, so less bureaucracy less complicated regulations, lower taxes, cutings in social benefits.
More open society ...

But it is just my opinion and we will see what will happen ...
hello  22 | 891  
21 Oct 2007 /  #44
Poles living in Poland need to think about the fact why Polonia (Polish immigrants living abroad) in majority voted for PIS. For the last year I know many Poles living in the US who move back to Poland because according to them "the situation has improved there and they have a chance for better living now more than ever before."

The question is who was the father of the recent Polish economic success - it seems PIS did a good job, not PO. I think Poles in Poland should value Polonia's vote in more consideration because Polonia know "both sides of the story" - most of them have lived both in Poland and on immigration. That's why they may have more knowledge and insight of what could be best for Poland in the long run.
Grzegorz_  51 | 6138  
21 Oct 2007 /  #45
Tusk will make a miracel ! LOL !
OP Matyjasz  2 | 1543  
21 Oct 2007 /  #46
Poles living in Poland need to think about the fact why Polonia (Polish immigrants living abroad) in majority voted for PIS. For the last year I know many Poles living in the US who move back to Poland because according to them "the situation has improved there and they have a chance for better living now more than ever before."

Interesting. It seems that majority of UK Polonia voted for PO.
miranda  
21 Oct 2007 /  #47
time will tell
Lukasz  49 | 1746  
21 Oct 2007 /  #48
The question is who was the father of the recent Polish economic success - it seems PIS did a good job, not PO.

they did nothing, that is why smashing majority of business owners voted on PO. Honestly PiS stoped reforms and consumed work of other governments. When you look on achievments of other new EU members in last 2 years, you will notice some facts which dont stick to your reality...

I think Poles in Poland should value Polonia's vote in more consideration because Polonia know "both sides of the story"

especialy when we look on fact Polonia in USA voted against Poland in EU ... and always supported parties like LPR ... I m so glad we havent folowed you today...
hello  22 | 891  
21 Oct 2007 /  #49
Relations with Germans will be much better

They could look better on TV or in the media, but better relations with Germany equal weaker position of Poland as a negotiator, which in the long run equal more advantages for Germany, not Poland. I'm sure Germany are glad PO won because they have one opponent less to make their plan to monopolize/Germanize the European Union in every aspect they can.

Interesting. It seems that majority of UK Polonia voted for PO.

In the US I'm pretty sure PIS clearly won.

they did nothing, that is why smashing majority of business owners voted on PO.

I'm pretty surprised to hear Poles have bought the slogan about "setting up a company in a day." Those who have enough skills to do business have opened a company a long time ago; having a company does not guarantee a profit (actually out of 10 companies 8 are out of business within a year).
Polson  5 | 1767  
21 Oct 2007 /  #50
Actually Muslims fight each other more than our soldiers

Who bring the troubles there ? Us, our stupid governments... ;) I'm not talking for myself as I'm French, but about Bush, all those who followed him...
Grzegorz_  51 | 6138  
21 Oct 2007 /  #51
Relations with Germans will be much better

Sure. Tusk will lick Gerries' ass.
Polson  5 | 1767  
21 Oct 2007 /  #52
Relations with Germans will be much better, and we will discuss about problems instead talking about nazists.
Economy, so less bureaucracy less complicated regulations, lower taxes, cutings in social benefits.
More open society ...

That's very interesting, and particularly when it comes to Europe and Poland's relations with the other members. I think that relations with Germany will improve too, it'd be so good that old foes Poland and Germany become new and modern friend "forever" :P Both could benefit ;)

Sure. Tusk will lick Gerries' ass

We can have good relationship without licking anybody's ass G !
Talking is sometimes a good solution as well.
OP Matyjasz  2 | 1543  
21 Oct 2007 /  #53
In the US I'm pretty sure PIS clearly won.

I'm not arguing with you on that one. It's just interesting how the result differ between US and UK polonia.
hello  22 | 891  
21 Oct 2007 /  #54
Economy, so less bureaucracy less complicated regulations, lower taxes, cutings in social benefits.
More open society ...

"cuttings in social benefits" and "More open society"

Cutting social benefits will not make the Polish society "more open"; I can say it will be the opposite, it will make the society mad.
jdthebrit  
21 Oct 2007 /  #55
hello.....

To introduce myself, British bloke working in Poland this last 15 years.......
That which you outline is the problem with Poland today - too many on benefits, too few working. For instance, there are men in my block who are 45, very healthy, and retired on 2,000 plus zlotys a month pension.

Their pensions should only be paid if they are working and contributing. Otherwise I'm subsidizing their boozing, and simple economics show that the figures are not going to add up.

Also their are plenty of jobs here in Slask. Bus workers in. Those who refuse the work should have their benefits cut.
So simple in my view.
Lukasz  49 | 1746  
21 Oct 2007 /  #56
Sure. Tusk will lick Gerries' a5ss.

I m sure not, we will just talk about important things for Poland. Honestly I m tired by Kaczysnki policy in EU, because we all pay for our reputation. And some times he was right but he did some things in way I cant accept, I think we could get more profits form EU if we went other way. As to licking sb's ass:

prezydent.pl/x.download?id=12026123

and how we are treated by our ally ?

I dont understand why you are so pride by Kaczysnki foregin policy, when our (!!!) experts show we just lost most of our reputation and we pay for it, the same as Americans pay for their mistakes ...
feelin' blue  
21 Oct 2007 /  #57
Poland is over.
Hope is over.

Remains a sad post-communist country affected by an outstanding corruption, organized crime and communist 'mafia'. No future down here.
Polson  5 | 1767  
21 Oct 2007 /  #58
Each year i go to Poland, it's rebuilding, it's new, it's modernizing, and things are not going to stop now. Everything's gonna be okay, don't think a change in politics would affect the economic "explosion" ;)
miranda  
21 Oct 2007 /  #59
Poland is over.Hope is over.Remains a sad post-communist country affected by an outstanding corruption, organized crime and communist 'mafia'. No future down here

you suffer from PETD (Post Election Trauma Disorder) - seek some help;0
Lukasz  49 | 1746  
21 Oct 2007 /  #60
And this crazy idea that whole Europe is full of our enemies ... and USA and Israel are our best friends ...

Who give us money for our development ? where we can work ... ekhmmm even not work, just visit ?

and of course we call US our grate ally and some EU countries we call ....

so maybe we should start call USA old F**** traitor from Yalta '45. Why not ? Kaczysnki call Germans on EU summit nazists (?!?) (his style is just depressing) You know even he thinks they all are nazists (sic!) he shouldn't tell it on EU summit (!)

We live in Europe, we have a lot of issues to solve but we have to deal with it in different way, of course we have to be assertive but in other way ...

You will see how it should look ...

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