BNP far right in Poland

im white...still didnt want me back in 2002.

Being white, doesn't grant an automatic right to live in Britain :-)

... and the BNP think Poles and other East Europeans are untermenschen along with Blacks, Asians, Jews, Gypsies— so they definitely don't want you (if you are Polish) here!

i know..i was being silly.

im australian of polish heritage, so either way i was fooked.

No. It makes him a criminal.


Let's just say that Sokrates is actually a fascist who's trying to hide behind so-called "facts". Funny how these ppl always drag Israël into it. As if the disgusting behaviour of that country is some justification for what happened in the past or to practice anti-semitism all over again. It's like some prominent figure once said:


It's easy to pinpoint the anti-semites and racists here on this forum. Some do it outright and some conceal it by referring to "fact" from very questionable sources, usually sources in the (extreme) right-wing camp and claim these as truth. They attack anybody who does not agree to them and tell them to accept that there might be another truth: the truth of their sources. But what if the generally accepted sources are right? What if the right-wing sources try to indoctrinate us with nonsense? Just because some retard says something bad about Jews on some website doesn't make it true. However, some ppl here are all too greedy to find bad stuff about Jews and want to believe it's true, so they claim it to be true.

>^..^<

M-G (tiens)

You just know an anti-semite when you see one, huh? You can spot one a mile away.


Should we stick to leftist sources because they speak the truth? Please advise.

Why is any source that doesn't blame Jews for something immediately leftish? You tell me that? We've seen to what intolerance can lead, let's not make the same mistake again...

Edit: what I would propose is that the sources merely vent the facts and don't attach an opinion to it, for example: "they killed the Jews and these guys killed the Poles", sec. Opinionated views only make me go against it when they are reeking of intolerance. But then again, discussions are always fun anyway :)


I can usually smell them :) But in all fairness, I do respect everybody, until I get enough of retard anti-something talk. Have you seen the movie "Hotel Ruanda"? If not, you should and especially watch the opening scene where the guy on the radio calls to kill all Tutsis. I was disgusted by that guy after a minute. What some do on this forum is pretty much the same. However I do tolerate freedom of speech, no matter how disgusting the views are and how much against this freedom their ideology may be. This goes not only to anti-semites, but to all other forms of intolerance as well. I just think that it's time to stop this nonsense. We have only one planet and we have to get along, no matter if we want to or not. But I guess it'll take a few generations before mankind is smart enough to understand that.

>^..^<

M-G (all ppl are brothers - it just takes some time to grasp that concept)

You're a grown man, so you should listen to yourself, and stick to whatever your own heart tells you. I don't need sources to put my prejudices aside, or to strike up a conversation with just about anyone I would like to talk to, and I definitely don't need any sources to prove who is the better human being and who isn't.

I'm not someone else, and someone else isn't me. So your truth might not be my truth, and my truth might not be your truth. You don't have to be friends with everyone, but the least you can do is accept the differences, and leave someone else to his or her own life, just like that person would leave you to your own life..

:)

It is easy just follow the trail of slime :-)

It does? As far as i know there's no laws that regulate holocaust denial in Iran and since abroad he's protected by diplomatic immunity whats he's doing is completely legal.


Borderline, in that i believe in disciplined society, i dont believe in the racial/totalitarian aspect though, call me heavily authoritarian if you will but i'm not going to run off with a bunch of baldies to beat up the first black guy i'll see.

Of course Sjam will not mention that since he's basically an anti-Polish racist bugger who'll grasp at every straw :)


Nope, he never called for any sort of repressions against Jews.


Ah because facts that are uncomfortable for Mare-Gea immidietaly become the "so called facts" :)))


Given that their religion openly denies the Godhood of Christ and a fair amount of them do insult our faith and Jesus then yeah its an accurate description, of course it would be more accurate if he spoke of specific groups or people but its not without basis.


I'm not defending him i'm pointing out that using double standards you brand a guy who's not a nazi a fascist or even an anti-semite, he's got controversial views but they're not without basis.


All the people who disagree with you or with the Jews at large, amusingly the only openly Jewish guy here (Yehudi) was much more pleasant and rational to deal with then the Torah fan-club we've got here:)


Did it?

That was in response to your statement that right-wing sources try to indoctrinate us. All opinions do. The leftist ones are so much more tolerant. Barff!


Do you? You seem to in favor of anti-denial laws which prevent free speech.


I think it's time that Jews stop using the smear 'anti-semite' every time someone says something they dislike.


I know you're a guy because you have said so in your profile and the symbol for male is next to your screen name. On the net I can be Jola or Queen Mary if I want.


I like Yehudi too. He is not here to prove we are anti-semites and has a good sense of humor.

Jews are having enough of their own problems with their battle against Zionism. Griffin claimed to have taken the side of Israel in condemning Hamas but my guess is that he would equally condemn the IDF given half a chance.

There was absolutely nothing like the policy of the Church toward the nazis during WW2. In Poland 1/3 of Catholic preists were murdered and i.e. in Croatia they often cooperated with the nazis but all of that was about Poles generally being enemies of Germans and Croats generally being their allies, nothing really to do with religion. You are desperately trying to mix the RCC with racism/nazis/anti-Jewism... I wonder If you realize that doing so you are offending millions of people... and what does It have to do with tolerance you are preaching so much about ?

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maybe this is all hogwash, Greg. I'll let you judge but it hardly supports your case.

I'm not desperately trying to do anything? I'm just showing how some Catholics tend to treat others, by giving them the same treatment in return for a change! (Childish perhaps! But I hope it's educational!) You know, I'm sure you've read a comment or two about how we're all evil heathens, and we're enemies of Christ if we are Jewish. Or that Gays and Lesbians are a disease. Or Atheists have no morals. Agnosts are wrong. Non-believers are children of the devil. Or how about the Dutch are disgusting, and ofcourse I'm hiding things.. Blah blah blah..

So who are they to offend me and insult me all the time? Who are they to get offended when I throw a few insults back in their faces? A little taste of hypocrisy perhaps? Let them admit their own mistakes before demanding an apology..


I've said this before and I'll say it again, I have zero tolerance for people who have zero tolerance for others.

But!

I know a few Catholics personally, and a few Protestants. (Even have them in the family, and I can assure you I have no problems with them!) It's just that I find a lot of Catholics very narrow-minded, extremely intolerant, very unforgiving, and utterly distrusting of everything and everyone who doesn't agree with their vieuws. Most of the time, I try to be civilized, I try to extend a hand, and I try to ask genuine questions, and what do I get in return most of the time?

Exactly.

I'm a lunatic, I'm on drugs, I'm lying, I have mental problems, I'm delusional, I'm a creep, I'm idiotic, I think I'm better.. Blah blah blah..

I've simply stated a few facts, and I yes I deliberately hurled some insults back at people who have hurled their insults at me for years! So who are you to deny this, and point the finger at me, when you can read all these insults back yourself?

:)

Case closed. End. Finito. Forgive and forget, and discuss it again tomorrow. Maybe we'll get somewhere some day.. Who knows? I for one, don't hate every Catholic, and I'm sure not every Catholic hates me.

Okay?

Yes,but Catholics have a high culture my friend.We are more savages.

There are Poles who would agree with you, Arien. Also, I met with one German recently who dislikes the intolerance aspect of the RCC and also a Czech guy who said the same. It seems like the Poles just don't see what other Europeans see. They are similar in Scotland (Catholic Scots, I mean), they think they are a cut above and they have separate schools as if they were members of some elitist creed.

I hate such clubbing.

We are :-)))

Not in my country.

:)

Look up how many bishops you had in Germany at that time and how many joined the NSADP and report to us on your findings. An idiot you may be not but you are spreading lies. It's typical of some Jewish 'activists.'

Then you might want to research what the Nazis actually thought of the CC and how they dealt with her and her priests and nuns.

I'm not Jewish, (I'm what you would call an Aryan.) and I'm not an activist.

I'm spreading lies? Yeah right.

youtu.be/sEATQF5lCYo

I don't agree with the last bit of this presentation, but you can check the rest of these facts for yourself.


Correction: How they've dealt with what they saw as the untermensch within the Catholic Church.



Research all possible sources of information regarding this matter, and please don't restrict or limit yourself to the sources of information that members of the Catholic Church provide you with. You need to hear both sides of the story, and then look for the truth, which can usually be found somewhere in the middle.

I'm not comparing every single Catholic to a Nazi, neither am I accusing every single Catholic of being a Nazi, or a Nazi supporter. I'm not telling you to believe everything I've presented here either, and neither am I presenting every source here as infallible, or as the absolute truth.

I'm merely encouraging you to find out some of the historical facts for yourself, before you decide to get all high and mighty with me.

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You repeat yourself, I asked for details.


If you misinterpret this issue as Arien does then you could spit on everybody. This is not how well mannered people should behave.


Every honest person fell deep disgust witnessing innocent people being slandered. I could ignore people like Harry, who is quite fanatical in his convictions and thus blind for the facts. However you hit my nerve by misinterpreting facts and lying without any shame with smile on your face. This is something that only truly evil people are capable to do.

I disagree with Islam but I don't come into Saudi forum to write BS to provoke people. Neither I would ever print caricatures of prophet Mohamed for fun. This is something that only people with class can understand.

You call yourself tolerant? You are no different from those who blame the Jews for everything. They misinterpret events like you, they lie like you and they hate like you. Two sides of the same coin minted in mint of bigotry.


He seriously lowered the number of victims that we are somehow obligated to believe. He have no evidence to confirm it, neither 6 millions could be confirmed. From today's perspective it doesn't matter anyway, genocide was committed and whether this is million or 100 millions of victims, this is equally evil.

Nazi means a National Socialist and he is neither nationalist or socialist. You need to improve your vocabulary.


Perhaps this is true, what would be so unusual about this situation? Clever tactic.

I'm still curious what is your source? Where I can find this list?



I second your opinions. Yehudi, the only true Jew who appeared in this forum did not came here to provoke people or proof something. In fact, it is a pity that he post rarely because I have some questions about Judaism that PC-brigade on PF cannot answer. Those people are not Jewish but produce a lot of bad PR for the Jews. With such friends who need enemies!


I'm sure that Crow himself is able to put these things in perspective despite that his countrymen were targeted. However Crow is more honest...

I prefer not to labour the point as it doesn't serve many ends usefully.

I share your sentiments. I'm through with these hypocrits.

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You are fighting a losing battle, Arien. My normal conclusion is to be happy with what I know (or the opinion I have formed) and let them be. Otherwise, there are brick walls everywhere.

I'm not slandering anyone, because it's known Mr. Williamson has said all those things. He has said even more things which would disgust any sane person, but I won't get into this, because you're probably going to hurl more insults and denials. Mr. Williamson denied the Holocaust. Mr. Williamson calls Jewish people the enemies of Christ. Are you willing to deny this?


Well, welcome to my world! That should give you a little idea of how other people feel when you call them evil, or hateful for no good reason. (Yes, other people have nerves too, and other people can get offended aswell, and say things out of anger!)

I've stated a few facts. I provided you with links to sources which contain both historical, and factual information. You insulted me a dozen times over in the past. You call me a liar, you call me evil. You're slandering me for pointing out the obvious.


Excuse me, but is this a Catholic forum? No it isn't. Tell me, have you seen me post caricatures of Jesus? Or caricatures of Muhammed?


Yes, I call myself tolerant. You're welcome to read back, and I'm sure you can see who's blaming who. I'm not blaming you for what happened in World War II. I'm not attacking or provoking you for being a Catholic. I'm not comparing you to Bishop Williamsion.


You can check History channel. You can check official documents. You can check intervieuws with former Nazi Officials, and Vatican Priests. I don't misinterpret anything. It's you who's in denial, and that's your loss.


Oh, but I can assure you I'm not fighting. I've stated a few historical facts. I've insulted someone who insulted me a dozen times over. How shocking.

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I am not familiar with the Polish nationalist parties...As a Polish-American, I can say we need an 'American Nationalist' party, one that puts the welfare of the nation before special interests and will deal with the problems of immigration, both legal and illegal...The BMP is a British nationalist party, appealing to the needs of the average Anglo...The need for this party arose because of a number of reasons: The greedy British elite, which makes decisions driven by the greed of it's upper echelon, and often in co-operation with other elements; the immigration problem: you have a huge influx of immigrants from, ostensibly, other parts of the British Commonwealth, but in many cases these immigrants are of a variety, including Africans, assorted Muslims from different countries, and now, with the onset of 'globalist free trade practice', immigrants from Eastern Europe...This 'globalism' is designed to drive down the price of labor, 'open national boundries' and maximize profits for greedy pigs...The priority of these immigrants is to 'make the system work for them', as opposed to contributing to the British culture and well-being...This is mitigated somewhat on the part of say, Poles, who also come from a Christian, North European culture...But many an average Brit just sees an influx of those speaking different languages, taking jobs formerly occupied by them...The third reason for a BNP is the rise of 'political correctness' as a control tool, i.e., using regulation to restrict basic freedom of the average White Brit...

But main reason for the party is the absolute corruption of both Labour and the Conservatives.

Poland is in a position of both promise and danger: You have no large scale immigration that would destroy the fabric of Polish traditional society, so certain issues are not paramount currently...However, Poland is still looked at as 'backward' by the EU and certain Globalists, therefore the standard of living and the availability of jobs forces Poles to emmigrate in search of work...Poland should try to develop it's own resources as much as possible to be as independent as possible.