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Black Immigrant living in Poland infects dozens of women with HIV


shara  - | 3  
4 Aug 2007 /  #61
People here should know history first before judging people. Does anyone here forget that 'America' belongs to the native Americans and that BLACK people were forced out of Africa to build up America as we know it today? Every other minoritygroup came voluntarily, most black people's ancestors did not! Stop playing the race cards and besides everyone here talks about negroes, but not all negroes are the same. Black people from Africa are so different from blacks in Europe or blacks in America or blacks in the Carribean. And yes stop playing the race card. Someone here said that black people are hypersexual or something, hahaha, he has no idea. How dumb can you be? Start reading black history ************. Begin with Malcolm X.

I am a black girl from Holland and what I love about Holland is that you get the chance to be friends with all kinds of people. I would love to go to Poland or any other place in Eastern Europe, but heck just by reading some of the stories here on the forum I'm like you know what, never mind. I do not want to go on holiday to a place and be harassed or intimidated because of my skin colour, **** that. It's funny because the place my mother is from there are a lot of Polish people living and they are not considered to be foreigners, but part of the community.
osiol  55 | 3921  
4 Aug 2007 /  #62
the same general prejudice that most Europeans feel toward blacks

Rubbish. Not most Europeans. Some Europeans.

I do not want to go on holiday to a place and be harassed or intimidated because of my skin colour

I hope that you will be able to. Some people just need more positive experience of meeting people different to themselves, and ignore the ignorant stereotypes or overblown scare-stories.
Lady in red  
4 Aug 2007 /  #63
Some Europeans.

Well said :)

Some people just need more positive experience of meeting people different to themselves,

That's so true......

:)
littlebeezz  2 | 20  
4 Aug 2007 /  #64
I do not want to go on holiday to a place and be harassed or intimidated because of my skin colour, ****

luv get a grip
shara  - | 3  
4 Aug 2007 /  #65
Yes it is true that some people just need more positive experience of meeting different people.

I think I should just go and see it for myself ;) or else I personally will never know.
Grzegorz_  51 | 6138  
4 Aug 2007 /  #66
I think I should just go and see it for myself ;)

True.
shara  - | 3  
4 Aug 2007 /  #67
Eeh guess the overall message of this topic is always perform(did I say that right?) safe sex ;) Does not matter who you sleep with always use protection, do not think that has to do with race but with everyone, some people say they would never have unprotected sex, but when time comes it will tell; do you back out of do you continue...
Crow  154 | 9310  
5 Aug 2007 /  #68
People here should know history first before judging people.

Very true

I salute you Shara and I would use this opportunity to say some things, which I believe need to be said.

I believe in coexistence of our races- Black and White but, not on the principles proposed by false West which like to uses big words such are: multiculturalism, human rights, equality, etc. False West isn’t honest. History taught us that they never were honest- from antic Greece to the antic Rome and further. They invented slavery. False West just force unification of world for their selfish reasons, to mix us unnaturally and they think, they would have rights to claim all our resources for good of their world, we would lost our unique characteristics and we would become just parts of their `great` heritage. They see themselves (and we must recognize them) as Borg which want to swallow us, put their children on the top of pyramid and our children would have role of numerous infidels which serve to them.

Shara did you know that first slaves in known world were our Slavic ancestors? Even word slavery coming from our Slavic name. Yes, we- the Slavs were basement of antic Greek and Roman economy which was based on brutal slavery. And, today’s EU is proud that is based on antic Greek, Roman heritage.

What I want so say is that Slavs has anything with slavery and with exploitation of your Black race, with destruction of North American indians, with disaster of South American native cultures, colonial era. Shame because of that belong to Holland, to France, to Germany, to Greece, to Italy, to Spain, Portugal, England, Belgium, etc. We Slavs are unique ethno-racial formation, we are true Whites, we are last representatives of original Western culture, last native Europeans and we were/are their victims same as Black race.

I would remind you Shara that Yugoslavia was leader of non-aligned countries and that’s the one of reasons for destruction of Yugoslavia. Yugoslavia proposed honest cooperation between races, cultures, countries and people. We wanted to see one batter world where people could preserve their unique characteristics thru mutual cooperation, on the behalf of all humankind and nature. Yugoslavia was punished. Now, they punishing Serbia and our first conflict (in modern era) with false West happened when Serbs liberates from Turks (around 1812) and in first Serbian constitution we had paragraph- ``Even slave when come on land of Serbs is slave no more``. That time USA, British Empire, Austro-Hungaria, France, Germany- all they made pressure on Serbia that we remove that paragraph from constitution. They depended on slavery, as always.

I strongly believe that Slavs need to survive as unique human kind. I believe that we can cooperate but, that we need to preserve unique characteristics of our races, that we have right to be racialy aware.

In hope that you can understand me,… my regards

I live in America, but I don't want Europe to be Americanized if you catch my drift.

That`s the word

Absolutey, I agree
magda09  1 | 54  
5 Aug 2007 /  #69
i think the women who got infected were equally guilty. Condom or no condom, the issue is of the morality at the end. where was that morality?

black or white or brown or yellow is not the issue, if you behave, you find the right man of any color. but if you are weak in moral, any color man is death or worse than death for the life.
joepilsudski  26 | 1387  
9 Aug 2007 /  #70
Slaves were brought to America by the English, the Portuguese & the Jews...the slave
trade in Africa has existed from time immemorial and the black African tribes & the Arabs
were major players in this...some people have the mistaken assumption that the brutal
whites stormed into the interior of Africa & forcibly dragged Africans out...actually, most
Africans who became slaves were the losers in inter-tribal warfare & the winning tribes sold the losers to the Eurpeans/Arabs quite willingly...they received spirits, firearms & other commodities in return...to the young lady Shara, I would recommend reading some of the writings of Proffesor Tony Martin, Wesleyan University, who is African-American, to get an interesting perspective on this issue...slavery, or black slavery, benefitted wealthy landowners in the southern US, but played little, if any role in building the US into an industrial power...this is a very misunderstood & emotional issue.
seatbelt blue  
13 Aug 2007 /  #71
Is this sort of racism I'm seeing common among Poles? If so, I am sorely disappointed. My Polish friends have never displayed to me, at least, such views.
FISZ  24 | 2116  
13 Aug 2007 /  #72
I wouldn't take these few comments as the "voice of Poland" though. I think we'll find the same people everywhere.
Vanguard  - | 24  
13 Aug 2007 /  #73
People here should know history first before judging people.

America doesn't belong to the Indians, it belongs to Whites, who won this land and is ours by the laws of land warfare. Not only are there treaties signed by Indian tribes, it's ours because we won it. Polish leader like Kosciuszko helped General Washington.

Maybe the ******* were brought to this land agains their will, but can anyone deny that they have a better live over here, than had they stayed in Africa? Look at Africa today, they illegally tap into oil lines, and hundreds of men women and children die all at once.

For those that think the black presence in Poland is a problem, let us remember that this is a problem that can be corrected. Nobody wants to catch HIV, and it's disingenuous to claim that a Polish man could have done this.
Crow  154 | 9310  
14 Aug 2007 /  #74
treaties signed by Indian tribes

signed

he, he, he, ha, ha, ha

Hey, I am sure Balkan Serbs are ready to sign few treaties, too. HmhmhmKahkah ... Tell me is there any chance that we avoid destine of North American Indians, in that case?

it's ours because we won it

Tell me, do you know for European Indians? Yes, there are some of them, just go to visit Lusatia and see for yourself. Native Lusatian Serbs are great atraction for Germans who won their territories in war- in their `drang nach osten`.

Polish leader like Kosciuszko helped General Washington.

So, by anology you want to say that Poles taken part in destruction of native Americans?

No way man, no way. In my eyes and, I believe in the eyes of all human kind that shame belong only to Germanics (particulary to Anglo-Saxons). Spaniards are responsible for disaster of South American Indians. That`s how it is

Maybe the negroes were brought to this land agains their will, but can anyone deny that they have a better live over here, than had they stayed in Africa?

I noticed that USA politicians usualy think and claim that they just spread democracy, batter life, mulitulturalism, etc.

So, according to your statement I need to say- `thanks USA for bombed Serbia in 1999`

Well, thanks but, no thanks
Zgubiony  15 | 1274  
14 Aug 2007 /  #75
America doesn't belong to the Indians

Not when it's taken from them :/

That's ok though. The white man is losing millions of $$ to the tribes at casino's :) Native Americans love white men with gambling problems.
tornado2007  11 | 2270  
14 Aug 2007 /  #76
hay guys listen, its a black guy giving aids or HIV to girls, yes its wrong and yest of course he should pay for what he did, but lets not run down the racism path.

I mean no race, nation or religion is correct or perfect. For example a few years ago A polish pedophile was let into the country, he subsequently raped and killed two children. It's not the polish peoples fault its the people who made the decision to let them in.

I think in this case you need to be asking questions of your government, why was this guy let into Poland in the first place???
joepilsudski  26 | 1387  
14 Aug 2007 /  #77
First, the history of European settlers & Native Americans is a very complicated affair...
there was never a wholesale effort to deprive Native Americans of their land...in fact,
the founder of Philadelphia, William Penn, a British Quaker, signed a treaty with the Lenape Indians right here in Philadelphia: there is a park called Penn Treaty Park that

memorializes that treaty...there was no conflict w/NA in the Philadelphia area...as the settlers moved westward their were wars, but it was never a genocide attempt...later

the US Government gave Indians right to lands or reservations that were supposed to
allow NA to continue with their culture without interference...these still exist & their is no
Federal/State tax on NA who live there...the negative of this was that it discouraged NA
from assimilating into mainstream culture...this is why you have these gambling casinos
existing on NA reservations...however, many of these casinos are under Jewish control,
as the Jews are experts on gambling & musch of the money is funneled thru Jewish banks & investment groups.
Second, although land is won through warfare, this does not justify the dispossesion of
the native peoples...Israel is a good example of this: they say that they have returned to
their 'homeland', which is very debatable, but they also practice virtual dispossesion/genocide of the native Arabs/Palestinians.
Third, Serbia is a perfect example of an EU/NATO/US power money grab...the Serbs are very nationalistic Slavic Christians & this makes them an enemy of the One World crooks...the Trebca mining complex in Kosovo, Serbia was a target for the crooks & George Soros helped buy it for the Rothschild interests...also, Kosovo is a drug-route for

Western drug dealers, who use the Albanians to control it...also a possible pipe-line route for the Globalists.
Antihore  - | 4  
14 Aug 2007 /  #78
And topics like this are why i joned this forum....... Firstly congratulations of allowing free speech, that's how it should be. Secondly i doubt that the guy giving aids to people had anything to do with being black, it's his mind not his skin. Thirdly it's amzing to see that Europe and USA are still the backward idiots i thought they were. Still going on your old arguments and pre -set judgements. My friends are of many races, black yellow and white. Chinese, samoan, tongan, english, german, polish, italian and the list is very long. We go out together, we play sport together and much more. Your racism and generalisations come from your environment and all that. Once you make everyone equal they become equal, if you put conditions on this they will always behave conditionally.The American multicultural scene is a big fail and white europe is also a fail. The wars, arguments and the rest of the problems just prove this. The reason is simple, we're all the same, almost, its just our cultures, religions and governments make us different. I know people are going to get upset by being the same as some ' negro' but truth is, you dont know and it sounds like half of you are just repeating the same 2000 year old BS and have never done anything to find out yourselves. USA negros will always be a minority because of all those misconceptions, before they even arrive in this world they are already pre-judged and pre-moulded, you set the precedent yourselves, not they, you have already decided they are scum and now they must fight back in whatever way they can. You have created your own ' scum'.

I am sure most people on here don't understand what i am talking about. That's the real problem, you don't know anything about this and your old guidelines have been passed to you for many generations and you are the product of that mould. The cycle can only be broken once a generation decides to break it. And that's why my backward friends the Eurpoean continent and the USA are considered by many here to be an infirior accumulation of old earth baggage and all that is rotten in humans. You would have to drag me screaming back to live in such a dumb, narrow minded and old fashioned society, this is bizzare stuff for me, its like going back in time to look at primitive humans, which you appear to be, at least in one context. So the negro may have not developed the same way as some other races, but i can tell you for sure, you all have not developed either. I am enjoying with my freinds reading this stuff, it makes us realise how stuffed up the world is and why we are not going back to live in your 1000 years out of date societies. By the way we have problems too, its just they are so tiny compared to yours, it almost feels like we dont have a problem and the biggest problem is yourselves and the countless others who feel the same way. Poor monkeys, i hope you find many bananas in your trees.

Thanks for keeping us entertained, keep it coming!
_Sofi_  
14 Aug 2007 /  #79
I agree with much of your post - but isn't this one of the generalisations you speak of yourself:

Europe and USA are still the backward idiots i thought they were

?
tornado2007  11 | 2270  
14 Aug 2007 /  #80
Antihore

well now you've finished all your lecturing you can crawl back to your lovely life with your lovely friends and not need to feel the need to try and humiliate everybody else.

Where exactly are you from anyway, i'm sure its picture perfect much better than the West, i'm sure :):):):):)
Grzegorz_  51 | 6138  
14 Aug 2007 /  #81
I am sure most people on here don't understand what i am talking about.

Maybe because your post is simply a damn piece of crap.
tornado2007  11 | 2270  
14 Aug 2007 /  #82
well if i was going to be damming and lower myself to his level, then Greg, that is exaclty what i would say, well done for saying it
_Sofi_  
14 Aug 2007 /  #83
I am sure most people on here don't understand what i am talking about.

Not entirely - but I think he/she is coming at it from a very hypocritical angle that makes most of what he/she says rather pointless.

Secondly i doubt that the guy giving aids to people had anything to do with being black, it's his mind not his skin.

I agree with this and if you did not make your own sweeping generalisations and insults, perhaps it would have been a more effective post.
Tran Anh  2 | 72  
14 Aug 2007 /  #84
I agree with this and if you did not make your own sweeping generalisations and insults, perhaps it would have been a more effective post.

We are living in a confusing world, indeed. In about 100 years ago, people with such a confusion of mind should have well committed suicide, but nowadays it is the very fashion.
Antihore  - | 4  
14 Aug 2007 /  #85
Hee hee i knew people would get upset. I didnt think i insulted anybody, but it's true, you people can't get along with one another. My post may be indeed crap, that's OK, this doesn't upset me and nothing you say can or will. Yes, now i read it again, does sound like a lecture a bit, sorry that's probably because i am typing this and trying to work at the same time and didn't have time to think more carefully, the stupid phone won't stop ringing. Anyway i was making an observation based on this forum and other things including going to visist many coutries in Europe myself and USA also. The old world is rotten and corrupt, racism and pre conceived ideas still reign over intelligence and old fashioned ideas still replace looking for yourselves and finding out. That is my experience, there isn't much i can do about that when that was what i saw, it is also a generalisation, because not everyone thinks like that, its just not enough people have realised yet i dont think to turn things around.

The speed with which you jump to discredit me or whatever you want, before thinking is just further proof. You're not even going to find out or anything, you know and that's it and nothing will change it. But in reality the other way does work, it needs people to be tolerant and clam and patient. These traits are hard to find in Europe and the USA from my dealings with people there and thefore i think you will be locked in this cycle for a very long time, if not forever. Now peel the banana and eat it, your tummy will thank you.

-:)
_Sofi_  
14 Aug 2007 /  #86
I offer my apology Grzegorz, you wereentirely correct

racism and pre conceived ideas still reign over intelligence and old fashioned ideas

That is my experience, there isn't much i can do about that when that was what i saw, it is also a generalisation, because not everyone thinks like that

all I see is your words tripping themselves up... your statements about 'Europe and the USA' seem to apply to yourself more than anything.

The speed with which you jump to discredit me or whatever you want, before thinking is just further proof.

..

i am typing this and trying to work at the same time and didn't have time to think more carefully

The speed of the replies you received does not determine how well thought-out our replies are, and it is strange you should point out our thoughtlessness in our responses when you admit that your own reply was not thought out as carfully as it could have been. Your 'point' is entirely inane in this instance...

You're not even going to find out or anything, you know and that's it and nothing will change it.

And who is? I doubt that it will be you since hypocrasy (making your own generalisations whilst trying to make a stand against the very thing) is hardly a clever way to go about it. You are no better than the people you portray in my opinion - which is not the majority of this forum btw and perhaps if you had been here more than a day, you would know this.

I am enjoying with my freinds reading this stuff

I am glad you are all amused (you and your friends, but perhaps your time would be better spent

trying to work

Antihore  - | 4  
14 Aug 2007 /  #87
our statements about 'Europe and the USA' seem to apply to yourself more than anything

You are correct, they are to do with myself, that is because i went there myself and made up my own mind and those are the conclusions i have come to. If they are generalisations then i would say it is because they are true or were presented to me in that fashion. The differences in thinking are astounding and immiedately obvious and stand out a mile. But before you recognise that you must see both sides, so you can know the difference. As for the work, dont worry, i am the boss and it's my company, i can get other people to answer the phone. One thing is for sure, if i had the attitude displayed by some people here i would never have a business and would never make it because my mind would still be closed and the people whom i needed to negotiate with to do all this would not give me 5 minutes.

So, all I am saying i have a look yourselves, dont take these old fashioned garbage especially from parents in Poland who are stuck there and lived in a pretend society created by Russia for 50 years. If you want for Poland to do well don't slur Negros, Jews and other people just because you have met one, or read an article in the paper about the actions of one person. If you go to Cameroon and find they are all like that criminal in the article, please feel free to bag them all you want, until then you are just another ignorant child, a pimple on the ass of the world. If theres is enough of this ignorance then that is what people will think of the whole country, does this suprise you?

I was going to come back to Poland and start another branch of my company, which is in electronics and i was thinking of getting jobs for 6 people and starting a small office, you know, to start somewhere. However, after reading more on this forum i think i may go to investigate first because based on 50% of this forum i need to proceed with caution. There seems to be too much bitterness and all that, but once again i am not going to give up because i read this forum, that would make me a hypocrite as you already called me. So once again i will look myself, it's the best way.

I am sure it's not like that there and i am sure you are a bad example for them but once again, i will not say that 100% until i find out myself, so until then I only have assumptions, not facts. I think i will come in winter, i haven't seen snow for many years and the sun never stops here and i miss the cold.
Crow  154 | 9310  
15 Aug 2007 /  #88
haven't seen snow for many years and the sun never stops here and i miss the cold

Something telling me that you are from Israel. True?

If answer is positive, I would tell you that I appreciate opportunity to ask you about your opinion in case with Jewish-German (read- complete false West behind them.. NATO/EU/USA...)-Turko/Arabic coalition against Yugoslavia and Serbs. How come to that, that official Israel support creation of Greater Albania (and, before that Greater Croatia)? What ordinary Jewish/Israeli people think about it? How Serbs deserved such `a great` Israeli attention?

If you aren`t from Israel (or not a Jew at all) then never mind. Sorry for asking

Anyway, bye from NATO protectorate of Serbia

Hitler was an occultist

these 'leaders' were actually just puppets in a larger spiritual warfare
that caused millions to be slaughtered

I would show you something...

Hitler Poland

What do you think about Ottoman Turk alliance with Nazi Germany and Adolf Hitler?

Amin Al Husseini
Head of Bosnian SS Muslim Hanzar Division

tellthechildrenthetruth.com/gallery/images/new6_jpg.jpg - German Poland state

Amin Al Husseini meets with Adolf Hitler in November 1942, weeks before the decision to implement the Final Solution which sent Europe's Jews to the gas chamber. The Third Reich provided Amin Al Husseini with a salary and appointed him Head of the Hanzar SS Division in Bosnia (Yugoslavia). The Hanzar Division was made of Nazi Muslims and implemented the genocide of 250,000 Bosnian Serbs, Gypsies and Jews during WWII.

joepilsudski, I'd like to learn your opinions about it...
joepilsudski  26 | 1387  
15 Aug 2007 /  #89
I would suggest that this Antihore investigate possibilities for opening his business in the Cameroon as opposed to Poland...I am sure the government there will assist him in getting everything running smoothly, and the indigenous population are intelligent, well-trained & have a top-notch work ethic...they will even work for wages lower than the Australians pay the Asian immigrants who toil 'Down Under'...yes, Polish people are all idiots & racists & so are Americans...Australia is now the world capitol of Philosophy, Cultural Diversity & Intelligent Thought.
Grzegorz_  51 | 6138  
15 Aug 2007 /  #90
I was going to come back to Poland

Please don't...

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