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Air-show accident in Poland


isthatu 3 | 1,164  
4 Sep 2007 /  #61
i stand corrected,you do have a "sense of humor" shame its the carry on type,but,thats a start.........
Puzzler 9 | 1,088  
4 Sep 2007 /  #62
re: Dear me, you do wr

- The oinker pretending to be an Englishman seems to believe that whatever it oinks any one will believe it, just because they're stupid.

Oink-oink, oinker. Was the oinker's oinking mommy as retarded as the oinker is?
:)
Eurola 4 | 1,902  
4 Sep 2007 /  #63
this thing isn't Polish at the least. 'They' aren't Polish

I agree "they" are not polish or any other nation the live in. I still don't think ,he is "it"... :)

Just yesterday, as I went with my friend and her family to a lovely beach in one of prominent Chicago North Shore suburbs, we came across a seemingly nice polish mom with three kids. She stroke a conversation with us asking, if we knew of a good, polish catholic school in the "burbs". I shall add, she asked where we lived first...Since we're also from the "burbs", she felt some kind of kinship, I guess.

My friend, being a mom of two young kids herself, gave her a couple of options, including "Jackowo", the polish district in Chicago. Puzz, when she started to make her comments about Jackowo, she sounded like our friend M!!!

So there, sadly - you don't need to be "it", to have your head up your own arse. It is the low life who moves up a notch, thinking they are immediately "better".

(We did respond, after an initial shock, and she promptly left our company) lol
Michal - | 1,865  
5 Sep 2007 /  #64
he sounded like our friend M!!!

Would you please send me her e-mail address immediately as I think we might have a lot in common, thank you in advance.
ArturSzastak 3 | 593  
5 Sep 2007 /  #65
Would you please send me her e-mail address immediately

No

as I think we might have a lot in common

Even she wouldn't like you, sorry. :]

thank you in advance

For what?

Who knows, one day it very well might be.

Poland can only pray...

I have to admit, Puzzler has made a complete turn around from when he first showed up. He's actually likable now. Congrats Puzzler :]
Puzzler 9 | 1,088  
6 Sep 2007 /  #66
Eurola, I myself have hit upon scum of this sort a few times. (Even on this forum, there was the dreadful half-Ukrainian female from Canada, and just recently the half-Czech female Polonophobe.) A Polish friend from UK told me about meeting somewhere in Dorset a young woman from Silesia whose hatred towards the Poles gave him the shock of his life. He (a psychologist) diagnosed her as a psychopath. She was married to a rich Libyan.

Of course, such creatures - seeming Poles hating Poland and other Poles - aren't numerous and they aren't representative of the majority of Poles. But their Polonophobic hatred (a strong emotion) makes them well visible e.g on chat sites. And some Polonophobic foreigners appreciate them as well.

This Polonophobia on the part of some seeming Poles may appear mysterious, paradoxical, absurd, but it is a fact, i.e. it really exists.

Where does it come from?

During foreign occupation of Poland such creatures become traitors and collaborators and we assasinate them.

Hatred of one's own people occurs not only among the Poles, but also among many - perhaps all - non-Poles. I know of an exceptional Anglophobe, a scribbler, who has besmirched England and the English on numerous occasions. Nonetheless, he was born in England and not only regards himself as English (his mother is said to be Jewish), but attempts to speak as a patriotic Englishman, manipulating the English national emotions. Notably, this creep is a rabid Germanophile and Hitlerophile. What's more, he is a rabid Polonophobe, in the tradition of Goebbels and other Nazis.

re: I have to admit, Puzzler has made a complete turn around from when he first showed up. He's actually likable now. Congrats Puzzler :]

- I haven't really changed, Art. Maybe it's your perception of me that has changed? But I sure appreciate your positive attitude towards me. All the best to you. I kinda missed you, your nice energy, on this forum.

:)

re: Why you been away then Puzzler, more travel?

- More travel, and some urgent work, Szarlotka. Plus personal issues. It's all mostly behind me now, so I'm back, and happy to be back. All the best to you.

:)
szarlotka 8 | 2,206  
6 Sep 2007 /  #67
All the best to you.

And to you. I find it very sad when people turn their backs upon their country of birth/long term residence. I guess they have their own experiences and misfortunes that make them act that way in many cases. In other cases it is probably a form of snobbery and that rankles with me. As they say in Yorkshire, "there's nowt so queer as folk".
Puzzler 9 | 1,088  
6 Sep 2007 /  #68
Szarlotka, this hatred towards one's own 'folk,' not only among Poles, is a mysterious phenomenon. Where does it really come from? But definitely it's there. Pascal says: that which is incomprehensible exists all the same.
Lady in red  
6 Sep 2007 /  #69
i stand corrected,you do have a "sense of humor" shame its the carry on type,but,thats a start.........

With respect, you know absolutely nothing about me and I'm not too sure many are interested in your views on me. So, please find some other topic to concentrate on.
szarlotka 8 | 2,206  
6 Sep 2007 /  #70
You sure you're not a diplomat L-I-R?
Lady in red  
6 Sep 2007 /  #71
Lol..........you sure you aren't a comedian hehe :)

Nice day here, lovely and sunny :)
szarlotka 8 | 2,206  
6 Sep 2007 /  #72
Nice day here, lovely and sunny :)

It's great isn't it. Even better now they've moved me from the basement so I can see the world. Mind you I'm spending a lot of time gazing out of the window now.
Michal - | 1,865  
6 Sep 2007 /  #73
and we assasinate them.

No, no, no, no! It is the Russians who have traditionally hated the Poles and have always killed them in huge numbers. I do not know where you have this thing about 'we assassinate them' from because in the last war the Poles put up a dreadfully week performance. please also note the correct spelling of the word assassinate!
isthatu 3 | 1,164  
6 Sep 2007 /  #74
Poles put up a dreadfully week performance

Whatever performance they put up( which I'll leave unargued as complete nonsence doesnt deserve debate) it was without the aide of heavy machine guns and nkvd detachments to make sure the brown herd went in the right direction........
Matyjasz 2 | 1,544  
6 Sep 2007 /  #75
No, no, no, no! It is the Russians who have traditionally hated the Poles and have always killed them in huge numbers. I do not know where you have this thing about 'we assassinate them' from because in the last war the Poles put up a dreadfully week performance. please also note the correct spelling of the word assassinate!

First of all, if you would read carefully you would see that that comment was dedicated to polish traitors and not Russians themselves.

Secondly, what week performance have you had in mind, because it surely wasn't in WWII.

And thirdly, you wont have to look far if you want to find a war between Russians and Poles won by the latter. Check out the Polish Bolshevik war from 1919-1920.

PS: I don’t even know why am I doing this. :/
wildrover 98 | 4,438  
5 Oct 2007 /  #76
There are no Russian/Soviet training aircraft in the Polish Air Force

I hate to disagree Grzegorz , but there are Russian built arcraft in the Polish air force....The planes from Swidwin air base fly over my farm very low , low enough to see they are Sukhoi su 27,s , made in Russia.....This base is now training with Mig 29 ,s which in my opinion are an awesome aircraft....Russian aircraft are often not as high tech as western planes , but they are not rubbish , and Polish ground crews are as competant as any other in the world.......
ukpolska  
5 Oct 2007 /  #77
There are no Russian/Soviet training aircraft in the Polish Air Force

I think what Grzegorz_ is refering to is post 10 where Michal is talking about old Russian training aircraft and according to my my wifes uncle who is a Air Vice Marshal in the Polish airforce there are some old Russian aircraft, but they do not fly because they cannot get the parts anymore, they even have a real problem getting parts for the old Mig's.

many accidents have taken place over the years in Poland, especially during training because of old Russian equipment.

wildrover 98 | 4,438  
5 Oct 2007 /  #78
Maybe so , but the Sukhoi su 23 and 27 are pretty old aircraft, and they seem to have plenty of them flying over my head....and i believe they are training pilots in these aircraft...Its very intersting for an English aircraft fan to have these Russian planes fly over,and i look forward to seeing the Mig 29,s ...
isthatu 3 | 1,164  
7 Oct 2007 /  #79
wow,the su 27 is like s**t of a shoval,a very impresive beast,I was lucky enough to see some v' close up at an airshow,and let me tell you ,the RAF lads I was with were rather unnerved to the point of"thank F**k we're mates with these guys now!".
wildrover 98 | 4,438  
7 Oct 2007 /  #80
Oooops....better correct the load of rubbish i just stated about the aircraft flying over my farm before someone else does......The planes flying over my farm are not su 27,s thats the one that looks similar to the mig 29...These beasts are either the su 22 or 24 , the su 22 is the single seat fighter version , and the su24 is the ground attack aircraft..(two seater)..They come over my farm at chimney pot height sometimes...I thought they must be the ground attack version , as they fly so low , but all the ones i have seen appear to be single seaters , so they must be the su22 , i guess they are practicing flying under radar...very impressive stuff....
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,148  
7 Oct 2007 /  #81
I hate to disagree Grzegorz

Read once again.

from Swidwin air base

SU-22.

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