March of Tolerance in Krakow

Obviously I hit a nerve with you, and now you are chimping out on the forum. I made no mention of "sin" or "moral" and used logic and reasoning to defend my position, not religion.

You obviously can't handle the truth of my words, and I think you should visit a mental hygienist to deal with your illness. At the very least, you must realize that you are ill before you can get treatment.

okay then i'll use ur logic yet again. All things that are unnatural are things that must then be illegal. So therefore you are acting illegally under your own system of logic by even responding to me lol. Okay if ur logical then put a few of your statements into symbolic form indicate wat symbols represent the various implications. If u can do that and I can do a deduction that comes to no conclusion or a to different one ur reasoning is invalid.

ANSWER MY QUESTIONS VANGUARD! Wat reason should gay marriage be illegal besides the hazard to ur health and ur opinion it is unnatural? Should magistrates delve into the bedroom businesss of people who want to marry then?

You just don't get it.

Read my original post.

Use your head.

I won't throw any more pearls to swine like you.

OH i did, but u don't answer my questions in ur original post. =) Ur funny im swine? Call me wat u will but it won't change who or wat i am. I am still going to own u in give or take 10 years=). IF I ever have homophobes in my workplace im going out and recruiting a gay couple to work right next to them!!! THen if the moron says anything im firing him on the spot! The homophobia will end it is going to take time though!

I THINK YOUR GAY AND U JUST CAN'T COME TO TERMS WITH IT!

I doubt it in your case,the vagina is probably far to large for you.....


You have flawed logic.I suppose Catholic priests should also be outlawed and sent for mental health care because they dont(publicaly) reproduce......

So are blow jobs but I bet none of us dont turn them down.

OHHHH zdarius PWNED! Catholic priests should b sent to mental hospitals! Sanity is relative to culture and I am sure most modern day people in the USA would believe a man who doesn't want to have sex b/c of an imaginary friend is insane! Either that or they really do have sex which would mean they are liars!

Yes you can.


Correct. Sex is pleasurable but from biological standpoint it's not about pleasure but about procreation. The purpose of anus is not sex, btw.


My logic isn't flawed at all, yours is. I'm talking about biology, you're talking about human law/ethics.

And yes, celibacy is against the basic drive of life too.

If these gays are so tolerant, they should be tolerant enough to accept that Poland is a Catholic country. Why force someone to accept you. You want to be gay that's fine(even though its a psychological problem), keep it in the bedroom. No need to brag about it, because it just makes me laugh.....

Their was an incident in New Jersey where a straight couple was harassed by the gay community walking down the street. They where called breeders(meant to be derogatory) and some other few choice words. What is the world coming to if your being made fun of being straight. Just shows how good the gays have it and shows how their pressing their luck...


I agree, how can being gay be genetic, gays can't reproduce (homosexuality has been around for a thousands of years, if it was a genetic defect after such a long time the gene would be diluted because of the lack of homosexual reproduction) .... Haven't you notice how some lesbians hate men.... obviously they had a bad experience growing up and this is a way of them coping with the situation. Fu*k grow up and be a little tougher, I had bad a experience with a couple of my girlfriends, and I still love women... You want to help gays be accepted, help them understand they have a problem.....

biblebelievers.com/Cameron3.html

Link above explains how homosexuality is a environmental trait and not a genetic one.

We shouldn't punish homosexuals or anything but at the same time we should'nt be forced to accept it as okey, because it's not...

Guys, come-on.... stop trying to over-analyse it. In the words of Stonewall's current campaign, some people are gay - get over it.

And as for Catholicism.... come on... all those buff young priests in the Vatican City. If you don't believe me, check this out: calendarioromano.co.uk

Same thing can be said LondonChick that some people don't accept gays, get over that......

why force someone to accept you... it's counter-productive.... honestly do they really need a parade????? If so parade around in the bedroom..... and keep it private.....

Do you see straight people having their parade..... I don't think so, the gays would cry discrimination..... I'm not going to be walking around on egg shells just to make sure homosexuals aren't offended.... (homosexuality is not genetic, it was very clever of them to claim that though) because how can anyone argue with that....

Okay then accept things as they are..... let women get beat let people oppress other people. I guess things never need to change! We should stay in Iraq forever and have george bush as a president forever. POLAND MAY HAVE A CATHOLIC MAJORITY BUT THEY ARE NOT A CATHOLIC COUNTRY! THAT WOULD MEAN THEY ARE A THEOCRACY!


HA that is a rarity but it makes me laugh! Matthias u and I both know this is probably a one in 50million occurance! U can't site an extremely rare occurance and use it as an example of reverse discrimination currently happening! U can but it's a terrible and easily disproveable argument! Ive been the the Castro in SF at least a few times every year since i was young and there are str8 couples there all the time! I have never once seen them be harrassed! I know thats a hasty generalization but I think we are pretty certain gays are more likely to be discriminated against than to discriminate!


That link doesn't prove a thing! There are experts on both sides with studies done by credible ppl. The nature vs nurture debate is still raging and I don't forsee an end for a few decades. Wether or not its "okay" is your opinion. Just as it is the opinion of a muslim that it is not "okay" to not cover your face if your a woman! Just as in the opinion of some people that the war in Iraq is "good". The effects of something only go one way. Wether or not those effects are good is a matter of opinion. If your making 50 billion dollars off the war in iraq u might not think it's a "bad" war u might think it is "okay". If your a psycho soldier who has to maintain his honor and win a war just to win it u might think it is okay too especially if u think honor is priceless!

Hey calm down....

I bet you still got a boner when you clicked on the think that I posted above, eh?

are we killing gays in Poland or something, no we just don't want them parading around town.....


okay, regardless of their religion they don't accept homosexuality, why force it on them???? no one is being hurt....... except the homosexual's feelings? fu*k that.... if it comes to the feelings of the majority of the feelings of a tiny minority I think the answer is pretty clear.... Now if people were advocating attacking gays than that would be a different story but their not....


just showing how good gays have it in the US.... fu*k that... I don't care if its one incident or not, that shi*t is not going to fly in Poland....


Um those studies that have been done linking homosexuality to genetics have been dis-proven or the experiment could not be reproduced... If you took any science course you would know that if an experiment can't be reproduced than it can't be used as evidence.... all factors must be carefully controlled....

btw, I'm not making any money from Iraq, if anything I'm losing money(when you consider the taxes I pay)...... But Im willing to make the necessary sacrifices......... it's the least I can do


are you feeling okey???? I am calm...... stop being a cry baby....

Yes,everyday you see public face sucking in the street......

lmao, I not a fan of PDA (Public displays of affection), its nauseating either way gay or straight... just much more disgusting when you see two guys doing it......

Poland is a Catholic country, they have a right not to have to accept it..... all the gays can move to UK, since its so acceptable there......... Poles aren't attacking gays they just don't want to be forced into accepting it as normal.... because it's not....

yep,


Im not a fan myself,but,were not in nazi germany so,it cant be one rule for some ....
Incidently Mattie,2 foxy chica's,,whats your view? ;)

thats true, Im not here to advocate discrimination against gays..... My parents even have one gay friend(coolest guy ever).... However I personally don't want to see it with my own eyes when their kissing and being affectionate.... It's a fair point you bring up..... it's only fair, but somehow that's not convincing me...


man, I was hoping no one would bring that arguement up....... cr*p..... somehow that doesnt bother me......

best compromise I cant think of, leave the status quo.... let's not discriminate but I rather have the gays keep it in the bedroom....

I respect the wishes and understand the gay community but they need to be just as understanding of the Catholic community....

Oh there is no absolute proof or disproof for either belief dude! If there had been a completely conclusive study that proves without a shred of a doubt it was either nature or nurture or a combination it would b in the spotlight right now LOL.


Well too bad freedom of speech dude! They do have that in pooland right?


I am sure the catholics hurt more gay feelings than gays hurt catholics feelings! =) At least under all rational thought. Gettin your feelings hurt because of wat some1 else does in their bedroom because its a sin is ridiculous! It's not okay to discriminate though and I believe thats pervasive in poland!

actually all the studies that where conducted to prove a link between genetics and homosexualities have been disproven. However the research done linking envormental factors and homosexuality have not been disproven... Their is no conclusive evidence either way but the evidence points to the environment.... Also tell me how being gay can be genetic.... gay people don't reproduce and how can they pass the gay gene..... I probably know what your going to say, but Im going to wait for your post before I respond.


actually you don't know what freedom of speech means..... that's called a verbal assualt(a crime)........ there are certain things that cross the line... Even US law recognizes that..... first learn the laws in the US before you ask me about the laws in Poland....


I don't have a problem as long as its in the bedroom.....

Thank you Matthias. I'm glad that some Polish people have been able to see the degeneracy coming from Western Europe and the U.S. and see that it is bad.

Yes this is kind of a debate that is over both of our heads. I know of dozens of studies that haven't been disproved.

yet.
thetech.org/genetics/news.php?id=19


HAHAHAHAHAHA
Verbal Assault
The abuser tends to verbally assault their victim by calling names, degrading, screaming, threatening, criticizing, berating and humiliating. They will center their victim out in front of family and friends by taking small personality flaws and embellishing them to the extreme. They make snide remarks and use sarcasm to erode the victim's sense of self-worth and self confidence. Making the victim look bad in front of others is an attempt to isolate the victim and keep them at their mercy. Then, the abuse worsens.

That one snide comment made would never ever in hell qualify as a verbal assault in a courtroom! Even if u had the best attorneys u would never ever ever in 1000000000 million years win. You are being a moron matthias! Hey mathias if u were here and if ur family was here I'd call u all kinds of names in front of ur family one time though"ur definition of verbal assault". Then laugh if u tried to take it into court and failed! At best u might get a temporary restraining order with anything like this but i really really doubt it! For that you'd prolly need a phenomenal attorney and it wouldn't b worth the $ One small occurrence isn't verbal assault if anything its a gay being mean! It's not a crime until ur convicted matthias and if that is all that happen is a gay said "breeders" to a str8 couple one time it would never even make it into a courtroom!

well I guess you can tell that to the Police because they were investigating the crime....... I guess you feel stupid right now........ word of advice, dont become a lawyer.....

this could even be considered harassment,slander,defamation of character <~
not sure if thats the right word, spelling, but yep all these hold up in court
if you dont get a cut-throat judge.. which is sad in my opinion.. because
people who do this need to be made example of so they dont act all spoiled
and stupid all the time.

Im with you on this one........ Funny thing is most homophobic attacks occur in western EU and the US....

Western EU and US preach tolerance and yet somehow gays are attacked constantly.... Poland preaches Catholism(which is against homosexuality) but yet somehow we don't have nowhere near the amount of attacks....

Before somehow replies it's only because Poland's population is smaller, well your wrong, where talking about %'s as compared to population....

Investigating doesn't mean anything lol. prove it i want to see the proof that this happened!


Okay make an example of me! YES I WOULD LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE THAT U STUPID POLLACK =D PLEASE?

your an idiot, happened in New Jersey about a year or two ago........ I really don't care that much about the case to keep close track of what happened afterwards.... feel free to do your own research.........


you dumbfu*k, your lucky your on the net............... It would be my pleasure if we were face to face, unfotunately we're not.... so feel free to continue with your pathetic life........

Rocky I dont need to make example of you, because you do a fine job yourself
by your reckless display of debate..


dont worry bout it matt, Its no sweat off my back if the prozac king OD"S
Im sure his daddy will find him a good rehab eventually and he will be on
that daytime reality tv rehab show..

and I wont cry for him boo fekin hoo.. lmao.

*deep breaths 1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5 all better now,


the sooner the better....the dude's a crackhead............

=) where do u live? i look forward 2 it i do travel u know! =) Wat either way i see it i'll either ***** u out or u'll ***** me out. I'd laugh at ur silly pole accent the entire time! I'd eat away at u so badly u'd want to hit me! =) I'd hope u did i like $!