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polishgirltx  
14 Oct 2008 /  #301
Yea...the idea is that its a ailment.

tell me about its mechanism, please... support yourself with some medical books if you find some and not a red eyes example...

Yea... they have their past... depression...phsychologican supression....etc

all of them? prove it...
Lodz_The_Boat 32 | 1,535  
14 Oct 2008 /  #302
all of them? prove it...

Read books yourself.

You ask 'prove it'... :D.. comeone girl...just because you wanna say 'no' ... dont become a staunch supporter of something like this. We have a generation coming ahead damn it!

About the past of someone...there can be millions of kinds of depression....supression.... people seeming perfectly all right can have variou levels of mental isolation or depression. I have read books about it... however.... you need to do the same if you really wanna know.

But for the time being...you can safely trust to it that its because of such feelings...that its impact is like this.
Filios1 8 | 1,336  
14 Oct 2008 /  #303
Theres also a larger point that homosexuality threatens the health of Europe as a whole, and the white race. Rarely do I hear of sexual deviancy in countries in Asia and in Africa. They simply do not have the leisure time to "experiment" and develop such perverted tendencies. Most, of course, are actually mentally sick, in those areas of the world, but diffusion of the sickness rarely occurs.

Free time, media, democracy, all showing their impact. Populations will continue to rise in Africa and Asia, and continue to lower in Europe where more and more people are becoming confused as to how a family should look like.
miranda  
14 Oct 2008 /  #304
those are really outdated views boys. What are you thinking? Please, don't try to convince me that I am wrong, because you will be wasting your precious time.
polishgirltx  
14 Oct 2008 /  #305
Read books yourself.

actually i do read about it...

there can be millions of kinds of depression....supression.... people seeming perfectly all right can have variou levels of mental isolation or depression. I have read books about it... however.... you need to do the same if you really wanna know.

i know about that from the school... i studied it... but thanks for the advice, which books do you recommend??...

You ask 'prove it'... :D.. comeone girl...just because you wanna say 'no' ... dont become a staunch supporter of something like this. We have a generation coming ahead damn it!

ok...come back to me when you know what you are talking about... all your arguments are just silly...
Lodz_The_Boat 32 | 1,535  
14 Oct 2008 /  #306
the white race

Come on man... I believe in diversity myself...i got some friends with wife or husband from another race.

They simply do not have the leisure time to "experiment" and develop such perverted tendencies.

I think many of them do... but their its treated more with force.

Here is more independent. But we are also disbalanced...we must have more control and be better responsible in handling this ailment...is allowing medical and phsychological cures to our fellow citizens and friends!
Filios1 8 | 1,336  
14 Oct 2008 /  #307
Please, don't try to convince me that I am wrong

Ok... so why do you waste your time stating that our views are outdated? Who is to say this? Many people feel the same way, thanks God, the only reason why we aren't overrun by a homosexual epidemic.
Lodz_The_Boat 32 | 1,535  
14 Oct 2008 /  #308
What are you thinking?

Thinking of you :)...

Anyways :P ...

And Jesus said "Let those with eyes see, and those with ears listen... "

all your arguments are just silly

Not really... I just dont loose my balance and start calling a crow = pigeon... out of my great liberal views!

I am liberal... but I am not wild and loose and funky and out of control!
z_darius 14 | 3,964  
14 Oct 2008 /  #309
tell me about its mechanism, please

while not directed at me, I'll try;

Nearly all accepted definitions of life make procreation as one of the fundamental parts of the definition of life. Every single species has a mechanism to create new individuals, be it through some form of cell division or sexuality. If a representative of a species is unable to participate in the further expansion of its numbers then the individual is deemed dysfunctional/aberrant/ill (pick one, all, or come up with another synonym)

When a man has low sperm count, or a woman has a malformed internal sexual organs then they are said to be ill/dysfunctional - in a word, they have a problem and (some) seek treatment.

Homosexuals do not have the natural drive to do what it takes to maintain the human species. If all of us suddenly turned into homosexuals then in roughly 100 years from now the last representative of homo sapiens would mark the end of the human race. In that respect, on a wide scale, homosexuality is a disorder.

As for morality, I don't care. There are far more serious things going on in the world than two guys in a doggy style embrace.
Filios1 8 | 1,336  
14 Oct 2008 /  #310
Come on man... I believe in diversity myself

Did I say I hated diversity? I'm simply stating that Europe will soon just be a hybrid Arab or African nation. Diversity means that some full blooded whites will indeed be present to mingle with hybrids and pure blood African, Arab, Asians etc...
miranda  
14 Oct 2008 /  #311
Ok... so why do you waste your time stating that our views are outdated? Who is to say this? Many people feel the same way, thanks God, the only reason why we aren't overrun by a homosexual epidemic.

:)
Filios1 8 | 1,336  
14 Oct 2008 /  #312
Come now, you know you want to argue with me... ;)
z_darius 14 | 3,964  
14 Oct 2008 /  #313
evolution is reversing itself.

This is an absurd statement.

There is no such thing as reversal of evolution. Evolution happens but it has no predefined direction or sense of right or wrong, good or bad, forward or backward.
Filios1 8 | 1,336  
14 Oct 2008 /  #314
This is an absurd statement

Please excuse my choice of words, I edited (deleted) it before you answered.
Lodz_The_Boat 32 | 1,535  
14 Oct 2008 /  #315
right or wrong, good or bad, forward or backward.

downward or upward :)
z_darius 14 | 3,964  
14 Oct 2008 /  #316
ownward or upward :)

since this is about sex then we certainly shouldn't forget about in and out ;)
miranda  
14 Oct 2008 /  #317
Come now, you know you want to argue with me... ;)

not at all. We disagree and I am OK with it.
polishgirltx  
14 Oct 2008 /  #318
Homosexuals do not have the natural drive to do what it takes to maintain the human species.

because two man or two women cannot have children the natural way, it doesn't mean they don't want to be parents...
z_darius 14 | 3,964  
14 Oct 2008 /  #319
The point is not what they want. The point is how their brains are hardwired to screw without any hope to ensure the survival of the species.

Many men with low sperm count also want to be parents. That doesn't make them healthy in regards to their procreation functions.
polishgirltx  
14 Oct 2008 /  #320
That doesn't make them healthy in regards to their procreation functions.

it doesn't make them homosexuals neither...
Filios1 8 | 1,336  
14 Oct 2008 /  #321
PGT, why such a ferocious defense of homosexuals?
z_darius 14 | 3,964  
14 Oct 2008 /  #322
it doesn't make them homosexual neither...

But it does make them dysfunctional and many seek treatment.
Some cancer patients are homosexual. Please, don't try to ask me if being a cancer patient makes one a homosexual. I'm sure you can do better than that line of debate.

You just want to find a whole where there isn't one.

You asked about any justifications to consider homosexuality abnormal. I gave you what I consider a solid biological reason for that approach. Pure and total homosexuality within any population based solely on sexual interaction between two opposite genders is doomed and headed for extintion. That goes against the very definition of life.

Nothing more nothing less.
Misty 5 | 144  
14 Oct 2008 /  #323
Homosexuals do not have the natural drive to do what it takes to maintain the human species. If all of us suddenly turned into homosexuals then in roughly 100 years from now the last representative of homo sapiens would mark the end of the human race. In that respect, on a wide scale, homosexuality is a disorder

That is indeed a very good point and it could well be the way the human race is destined. Over a longer period of time than a hundred years of course. ;) The natural process of human evolution might be homosexuality with the eventual result of extinction. Therefore, it would have nothing to do with being a "disease".
lesser 4 | 1,311  
14 Oct 2008 /  #324
Pure and total homosexuality within any population based solely on sexual interaction between two opposite genders is doomed and headed for extintion. That goes against the very definition of life.

Nothing more nothing less.

Exactly, if somebody disagree with this statement then it is rejection of logic.
z_darius 14 | 3,964  
14 Oct 2008 /  #325
The natural process of human evolution might be homosexuality with the eventual result of extinction. Therefore, it would have nothing to do with being a "disease".

The same could be said about cancer, avian flu, HIV and thousand others.

Therefore, using your nevertheless interesting and smart argument, there are no diseases at all, and it's all just a part of evolution. Medical science is such a waste or time and money.
Misty 5 | 144  
14 Oct 2008 /  #326
The same could be said about cancer, avian flu, HIV and thousand others.

Could be but they are all diseases, homosexuality is not.

Therefore, using your nevertheless interesting and smart argument, there are no diseases at all, and it's all just a part of evolution. Medical science is such a waste or time and money.

Disease is something the human race is trying to eradicate and yes, each disease is a trial to the human race throughout time. So no, medical research/science is not a waste of time or money, without it we could have been wiped out before now by any number of diseases. Homosexuality is not something that medical research can eradicate though. Perhaps through time they might be able to isolate why some people are drawn to their own sex but I doubt they'll ever "cure" it.
z_darius 14 | 3,964  
14 Oct 2008 /  #327
Disease is something the human race is trying to eradicate

is that a definition you're proposing?
Humans are trying to eradicate hunger and wars. Do you think we should call an ambulance to help out?

medical research/science is not a waste of time or money, without it we could have been wiped out before now

And you base this on... millions of years before the word "medicine" came to being and what.... 200 years when any kind of serious medical research started? How about ants, or lice, or birds. Do they have their own medical science? Without it they would have been extinct long time ago. Some species are tens of million of years old. I never heard about doctors among crocodiles. But then, I haven't watched TV in a long while.

Homosexuality is not something that medical research can eradicate though.

How do you know? You must have some deep insight into the future of medical science.
lesser 4 | 1,311  
14 Oct 2008 /  #328
Disease is something the human race is trying to eradicate and yes, each disease is a trial to the human race throughout time.

Why do you insist on your opinion if you cannot overthrew Dariusz's argument? While you cannot overthrew because this is impossible.

Some diseases are considered incurable (at least currently).
Misty 5 | 144  
14 Oct 2008 /  #329
Some diseases are considered incurable (at least currently).

Exactly. That's why I wrote "trying".

And you base this on... millions of years before the word "medicine" came to being and what.... 200 years when any kind of serious medical research started? How about ants, or lice, or birds. Do they have their own medical science? Without it they would have been extinct long time ago. Some species are tens of million of years old. I never heard about doctors among crocodiles. But then, I haven't watched TV in a long while.

I wrote "could" have been wiped out not "would". Never mind medical research then. Throughout time humans have developed cures for various things or the human body has evolved to be less to prone to something. It is going the other way now though, bacteria mutating faster than be kept up with, antibiotics not being able to tackle them.

Okay though, lets forget about medicine for a while. Let's take a year of no vaccinations anywhere in the world and see how we cope. (Fact is we wouldn't because we are so used to having them).

Thinking of ants, lice or birds - there are many varieties of each and yes, some have become extinct.

How do you know? You must have some deep insight into the future of medical science.

I don't for sure. It's just a belief of mine that homosexuality is "just the way you are" in the same way that I am heterosexual. There's nothing that indicates to me that it's an illness so therefore it doesn't require a cure and probably can't be stopped.

I do have a question for those who believe homosexuality is a disease or illness - what are the symptoms?
miranda  
14 Oct 2008 /  #330
what are the symptoms?

wearing too much pink;), which is rediculous statement but si is the discussion.

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