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I need Kaczynski's Email Address!


Patrycja19 62 | 2,695  
20 Apr 2007 /  #1
I need Kaczynski's email address!!!!!!!!!

I am done!!

I love my heritage, but Ill be dam if I will sit back and hear all this crap and he is doing
nothing about it!!

Companies making women wear headbands during monthly!! diapers on women
Cashiers! its disgraceful, and unjustified.. theres nothing more humiliating!!

if it isnt hard enough for women to have children, raise this family, work, do all
the Drs Appts, run kids to school , prepare dinners, clean , press, etc etc etc!!

NO EXCUSES for this at all!!

Maybe if more of us American Polish start emailing our disgust, and there is something
he can do about it, maybe he will focus more on the problems at hand!!

Heck anyone American, Australian, Uk, throw out those emails, this has to stop.
imagine if your wife was to go to poland, and no experience . so she takes a job
as a cashier, would you want her wearing that? These companies, they need a good
Arse kicking! who ever manages.

I just cant believe this happens and is still happening !!!

I am so mad!! Where is their privacy rights????

I dont know about anyone else, but this is appalling!! if its a joke, please stop
if its true, please Lets stop it!!!!!!
witek 1 | 587  
20 Apr 2007 /  #2
which Kaczynski's e-mail adres do you need? :)



hello 22 | 891  
20 Apr 2007 /  #4
Write to Polish president - prezydent.pl
OP Patrycja19 62 | 2,695  
20 Apr 2007 /  #5
Thank you :)

Witek, I dont know what you find so funny, I know they are twins, was it the
facts laid out ?

Maybe its a joke to you, but it isnt to me. my polish sisters are suffering, and
you should be feeling the same.

People have to deal with such demeaning work conditions, its no wonder they
leave!!

I know their is much more that needs attention, but first and formost should be
ones secure livelyhood.

I wrote. I feel better!!

I used my Polish-english book to figure out the rest.

Thank you again.
witek 1 | 587  
20 Apr 2007 /  #6
Patrycja you morphed into a gopher:)
OP Patrycja19 62 | 2,695  
21 Apr 2007 /  #7
Witek, as a women with much experience in " mens tatics" of changing the subject
which is what you did, I am on to you! "pointing finger at witek!"

Thats alright witek, I am not wearing a headband at the moment..and my
Question was avioided, but I forgive.
witek 1 | 587  
21 Apr 2007 /  #8
Patrycja,

like a typical woman you didn't answer my question.

why did you morph into a gopher? :)
Bronek  
21 Apr 2007 /  #9
witek patty is right...what does the gopher have to do with anything? Stick to the topic..

Patty...I thought this went on years...years ago. Where did you hear that this is gouing on now? I can't see this happening, and I've never witnessed it anywhere in Poland.

Please post an article or something
Shawn_H  
21 Apr 2007 /  #10
tuc.org.uk/h_and_s/tuc-9061-f0.cfm

apparently, this is from 2004.

an extract from the article...

"Earlier this year, German supermarket chain Lidl demanded that women workers in its Czech Republic and Polish stores wear special headbands during their monthly periods. It said the move was to identify women who could take additional toilet breaks. The policy was abandoned after critical media coverage worldwide."

I am in no way pro-unionist, but companies like this must be kept in check.
Bronek  
21 Apr 2007 /  #11
Thats Germany and 2004. I've never heard of this in Poland 2007
Bronek  
21 Apr 2007 /  #12
Write to Polish president - prezydent.pl/x.node?id=2011972

good lookin out...there is a mail to president option too. Go for it P

The only problem. There's no evidence to this? I've been looking when should be working :)
daffy 23 | 1,508  
21 Apr 2007 /  #13
i thought it was 2004 as well but am so proud of pat for actually taking steps and standing up for what is right, a trashy way to treat anyone!! bravo
OP Patrycja19 62 | 2,695  
22 Apr 2007 /  #14
Patty...I thought this went on years...years ago. Where did you hear that this is gouing on now? I can't see this happening, and I've never witnessed it anywhere in Poland.

Bronek, one of the posts, few days ago, Giles postes on the headband, and how
women are made to wear this at work ( I will look for the post) if you do a search
on Giles and all his posts, it shows up. think it was two days ago.

on another forum though, this was bought up and I cant even remember the
companys name, but they still did it. Maybe Fisz or Giles can remember, i am so
mad though, i cant even think straight. Degrading, demeaning, sickening.

I would slap any employer who asked me to do this. better yet, he better know
how to duck:)

thought it was 2004 as well but am so proud of pat for actually taking steps and standing up for what is right, a trashy way to treat anyone!! bravo

I would love to see all of us do this!!

Bravo to all who join me!! :)

tuc.org.uk/h_and_s/tuc-9061-f0.cfm

apparently, this is from 2004.

an extract from the article...

"Earlier this year, German supermarket chain Lidl demanded that women workers in its Czech Republic and Polish stores wear special headbands during their monthly periods. It said the move was to identify women who could take additional toilet breaks. The policy was abandoned after critical media coverage worldwide."

if its no longer an issue, thats super! but think about it, 2004 is only 3 years ago
thats not a long time. companies can still be doing stupid crap we havent heard
yet for people fearing loss of employment!!

3 years isnt that long, if it was 20 years or so, I would say, ok, it was still demeaning
but someone did something, and they were caught.

I can tell you, a Law should be passed, companies try to get away with so much
even if it was 2004, and no longer a policy with companies, or that company, they
should have been used as an example for all the other companies and served
heavy fines for their unlawful practices of unfair labor and lack of Privacy which
every human being has a right to!!! man or woman!!

like a typical woman you didn't answer my question.

maybe major tom will answer you:)

meantime, I am going to be doing my best
to help in anyway I can my polish sisters and brothers.:)
Frank 23 | 1,183  
22 Apr 2007 /  #15
I am in no way pro-unionist,

Shawn.........am afraid frequently you will only find its a union who takes on this company...I don't know if Lidl is another "union no-go" company, but if they are, its typical of the SH!T that they think they can get away with.........another place who sees their workers are pawns/moveable pieces of meat to use and abuse.

In Europe and its mostly socialist attitudes .......unions have played a major part in framing worker friendly laws and keepng the excesses of employers in check.......

So some middle ranking manager came up with an idea.......in a complete vacuum of thought, understanding, common sense and obeying the laws of the land/EU.

Thereby humiliates womanhood...........

Lidl....should hereby be boycotted....P19 I hope you are up for it!!
witek 1 | 587  
22 Apr 2007 /  #16
Patrycja wrote,

Companies making women wear headbands during monthly!! diapers on women
Cashiers! its disgraceful, and unjustified.. theres nothing more humiliating!!


I came back from Poland in November and did not see any of this. Maybe you Americans need to be more informed? :)
OP Patrycja19 62 | 2,695  
22 Apr 2007 /  #17
....P19 I hope you are up for it!!

Up for anything babe!!!

BTW Witek, maybe you should be more informed, Frank and me are!!

Swishhhhhhhhhhhhhhh..

and, oh yes, its Tesco , warsaw

and Intermarche, which Tesco German owned?

is Intermarche? I will google.

Witek, for someone who is Polish, you sure dont care much about it do you?

not trying to be mean, but, you joke alot about serious issues.

Thereby humiliates womanhood...........

Lidl....should hereby be boycotted

Agreed.

again, no human should be pushed to this kind of humilation or stress at a work
environment.

you know, seeing the geriatric suffer with this kind of humilation, and you cant
say words enough to them to comfort because its a sense of loss, your dignity

it was hard enough to watch my moms eyes fill with water because she lost
her ability to control it, my god, to even think an adult is made to wear them
so they can reduce the number of breaks.

I came back from Poland in November and did not see any of this.

Witek, I doubt you would see it, as I dont think they would want to advertise they
are wearing a nappy.
miranda  
22 Apr 2007 /  #18
Pat,
I actually have heard about it some time ago and you are right - it's not being advertised by anybody and it seems to be very prevelent in foreign owned supermarkets.

It was hard for me to believe too.
OP Patrycja19 62 | 2,695  
22 Apr 2007 /  #19
I dont know how you get one of those petitions going, I never did one, but i think
it would be a good thing to show them a law must be passed to protect these workers
if there is such a law already in place, then they need to crack down now!

form some type of undercover survelliance and see if they are letting workers take
breaks ( by hidden camera at the cashiers desks) .

those who are not following the law, shall pay some hefty huge fines and risk of
store closure..
Shawn_H  
22 Apr 2007 /  #20
Shawn.........am afraid frequently you will only find its a union who takes on this company

I agree that the workers need a voice. But I have seen first hand how it can go too far. One only has to look at the state of the North American auto industry. Years ago, Henry Ford revolutionized the way cars were made, and as a result, the workers were made to work at a pace never before seen in industry. This resulted in the creation of the United Auto Workers. 90+ years on, GM / Ford and Chrysler have to add on about $2400 to the price of a car just to pay retiree benefits. This has made them extremely uncompetative compared to the likes of Toyota / Honda. The new domestics don't have the legacy costs of the big 3, and have a much more creative, flexible work force, while still maintaining worker dignity and a very good wage. The unions are now starting to realize that they are digging their own hole, and starting to make concessions on wages, benefits etc.

So some middle ranking manager came up with an idea

I would think that the idea must have been floated by some top executives if it were proposed to be implemented in more than one country... Bloody awful idea either way.
witek 1 | 587  
22 Apr 2007 /  #21
it seems to be very prevelent in foreign owned supermarkets.

please tell me in what supermarkets? where? :(

funny i was in a lot of stores in Poland incl. Tesco and nowhere did i see women wearing special headbands. :)

You Americans are funny:)

Patrycja,

instead of looking for problems in Poland and elsewhere why don't you Yanks first solve your own problems of violence, drugs and poverty. :)
daffy 23 | 1,508  
22 Apr 2007 /  #22
why dont we just try solve all problems as they come across :)
OP Patrycja19 62 | 2,695  
22 Apr 2007 /  #23
But I have seen first hand how it can go too far. One only has to look at the state of the North American auto industry.

It has already gone to far when workers are denied the right to use a bathroom and
made to wear a nappy. no one has to pay extra cost here, its part of our human
nature to eat just as it is to use a bathroom. this isnt going to increase loss of
business, I am sure if all the customers knew this was going on they would not want
to even shop there because its awful practice and I think the public would be
more then appalled.

Not only that, it can make these workers sick, some might not use the nappy so
to speak, and hold it for long periods of time and what do you think will happen
to them? Kidney problems, infections, what kind of company would even think this
is fair?

a ROTTEN LOW SICK NOT Worth BUYING THEIR PRODUCTS COMPANY THATS WHO!!!

instead of looking for problems in Poland and elsewhere why don't you Yanks first solve your own problems of violence, drugs and poverty.

first of all it was posted by a member " giles " about the headbands.

so it wasnt a YANK who found it. and He happens to care Unlike you seperate
from all the prestegious canadians who are good people, you seperate canucks
who dont care should not post if you dont like it.. go back to your dating service
thread.. and as for what I want to do, its my business, I am sorry that you have
problems with my wanting to help. maybe you need more then major tom
on this one.

And after that post, Witek, I wont respond to your bad comments because if your
trying to make it into a argument instead of something good, your not worth time
that was wasted. have a nice day Witek.
witek 1 | 587  
22 Apr 2007 /  #24
Patrycja,

i am just saying look at all the problems you Americans are having in your own backyard.
Why not concentrate on them?

Why waste your time with supposed "headband" problem in Poland that doesn't even exist?
OP Patrycja19 62 | 2,695  
22 Apr 2007 /  #25
Why waste your time with supposed "headband" problem in Poland that doesn't even exist?

Witek, it did exist, which means somewhere else someone else will try it again
until there is a law prohibiting this.

I help in my own backyard. and now choose to help in my ancestral back yard.
plus the fact that I still have family living there, and couldnt imagine them
having to endure such appalling work conditions.
witek 1 | 587  
22 Apr 2007 /  #26
can you walk around in Detroit at night?:) is this not your backyard?

as for helping people in Poland what exactly are you doing to help? sending e-mails that will never be read?
OP Patrycja19 62 | 2,695  
23 Apr 2007 /  #27
can you walk around in Detroit at night? is

What does that have to do with what I am doing? what would walking around
detroit at night accomplish? your point has nothing to do with the topic at all.
changing the subject again.

and no one can possibly do everything, so I choose to help out in other places
if it dont get read, I will find another way, what is the big deal to you witek?

does this make you upset or something? Why all the negativity? its people like you
who try to shoot others down by prodding them, instead of joining you backlash
it doesnt concern you so maybe dont respond.

Detroit has crime- Poland has crime. I dont get involved in the crime part, I will let
the local Police take care of that. Helping-volunteering with the poorer folks, yes
I do, I Will , I have.

I donate all my unused items which I frequently go thru things we have childrens
clothes ( hardly worn) good shape and donate. I also have money taken from
my checks for helping hands which also goes to those who dont or cant afford
equiptment like Wheelchairs/ Walkers/ or just another employee who might
have got hurt at work or was off due to medical issues with their family.

so yes, I help, and I will cont to help, I also sent monies for the hurricane katrina
and to poland ( our family) cousins.

I send money to the childrens cancer society, and make a wish foundations.

even though my daughter was diagnosed with a rare disorder which will stay with
her for the rest of her life, and she is also very kind hearted and when she was sick,
in the hospital , she wanted to be the one to go to the other rooms and give toys
to other children. she is always thinking of someone else.

no Witek, unlike you, I have a very unselfish family.
my girls, me, we do what we want, and help who we want, when we want.

I am teaching them that family and values are everything.

I dont think in anyway, shape or form that I am wrong, so you can take your
negative attitude and stuff it up your major tom helmut.
sledz 23 | 2,250  
23 Apr 2007 /  #28
i am just saying look at all the problems you Americans are having in your own backyard.
Why not concentrate on them?

Amen....:)
ukinpoland 5 | 338  
23 Apr 2007 /  #29
A lot of wittering going on in here. Does anyone know where my pet mouse is?
OP Patrycja19 62 | 2,695  
23 Apr 2007 /  #30
Whatever, sad people.

I got my Question answered anyway.

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