southern 74 | 7,074 6 Sep 2009 / #1Two polish girls told me yesterday how they took a summer vacation on an island working in a hotel and the employer paid to them 200 euro for 2 months work saying ''I don't have more money to give.''Exploitation is blatant in this case.One girl was crying and asked me to find a lawyer etc.I seeked for legal advice and the response was that the expenses to lawyer will be higher than the amount of money the employer owns them,so it is not to their interest to hire a lawyer.My relative's advice(who happened to be a lawyer) was that the girls should tell some friends of them to pay a visit and give the employer a serious beat.I guess it would be easy if the girls were russian but in the case of polish girls there are usually no such connections.This whole story gave me the impression that polish people(esp young ones) are heavily and consistently exploited and cheated when working abroad because they seem desperate,are soft and undertake a lot of risks,they tend to trust or sth like this.
OsiedleRuda 6 Sep 2009 / #2This could happen to anyone, anywhere... stop trying to make it a "Polish" issue.
OP southern 74 | 7,074 6 Sep 2009 / #3Yes,but slavic people are very nice,they do not deserve to be deceived.They are our brothers.It is great shame to exploit Slavs.
PlasticPole 7 | 2,648 6 Sep 2009 / #4My relative's advice(who happened to be a lawyer) was that the girls should tell some friends of them to pay a visit and give the employer a serious beat.I guess it would be easy if the girls were russian but in the case of polish girls there are usually no such connections.In that case, young Poles should create communication networks before going to unfamiliar places. They can do this via the internet. A site like Polish Forums is a good example. They could visit a site hosted in the country they will be working and start a thread asking for Poles in the area and find out more information this way. They can make some friends before they go and find out if a place is legitimate and other ways to keep from getting ripped off.
time means 5 | 1,309 6 Sep 2009 / #5It is great shame to exploit Slavs.Was this a Greek isle by any chance?
SeanBM 35 | 5,806 6 Sep 2009 / #6Exploitation of PolesPoles are always complaining in work,At my fun sweatshop factory they never stop moaning."Can I go to the toilet?""Can I go to the hospital?""Where's my mummy?"Their petty complaints never end.I am a fair employer, I let them go to the hospital the first time they glue their fingers together, after that I don't of course, they have to learn somehow.At night-time I bang on their cages so they don't feel lonely and what do I get? crying, they are so ungrateful.
Seanus 15 | 19,674 6 Sep 2009 / #7If you let yourself be exploited then that's your matter. Osiedla is right, many face this in their own countries. There are many support networks for Poles abroad, more than you'd think.
ShelleyS 14 | 2,893 6 Sep 2009 / #8Two polish girls told me yesterday how they took a summer vaccation on an island working in a hotel and the employer paid to them 200 euro for 2 months work saying ''I don't have more money to give.''Nope, just stupid they didnt agree some terms before - I had friends that worked on Spainish Islands and Greek Islands and only some times the bar owners tried to take the pi$$...They must have been really retarded to wait for payment for 2 months!You know what Southern, Im starting to believe you have never left your village and the only sex you've ever had was with your nextdoor neighbours goat! Because the above is unbelievable
OP southern 74 | 7,074 6 Sep 2009 / #9Im starting to believe you have never left your village and the only sex you've ever had was with your nextdoor neighbours goat! Because the above is unbelievableI tell you the reality.I am surprised that so many are not aware.If I tell you what wrote to me one of my polish gfs today,you will not believe it.But it happens.Crazy things.This summer I was in Houston,Berlin,Agia Napa,Cyprus and Poznan.I was also on Mykonos island,Paralia Katerini,so I guess I travel enough though my city is a world itself and I am located just in the centre of the centre.One road is full of Indians,next is black dominated,there is polish area,a square full of narcomans and the expensive shops just nearby so I see the pulse of the city.
mvefa 5 | 591 7 Sep 2009 / #10You know what Southern, Im starting to believe you have never left your village and the only sex you've ever had was with your nextdoor neighbours goat! Because the above is unbelievableAnd what does sex have to do with this story?Damn these girls of today only think about sex.
Marek11111 9 | 808 9 Sep 2009 / #11Polish membership in E.U. as other countries provided modern slave labor to west as they pay less to Pole for the same job native would do, it's so corporations will more profit and drive wage down for everyone, this trick is done by all corporations. I am well aware of the corporatism, that is how people of all nations getting screw by big business in a name of profit.
TheOther 6 | 3,674 9 Sep 2009 / #12Marek11111Why do you think Poland sees so much investment recently? It's the same thing that happened in Ireland and Scotland: skilled workers available for low wages, subsidies and favorable tax laws. As soon as this changes the big corporations will drop Poland like a hot potato. Example:huffingtonpost.com/2009/01/08/dell-ditching-ireland-for_n_1 56185.html
philipld 1 | 5 14 Sep 2009 / #13I watched a Documentary on TV in the UK and it was about London Cleaning company although they paid the minimum wage, they cheated by taking off hours of what they worked saying that they didn't do a good job, which is very wrong, that was a few months ago...On the other hand, where I met my polish friends, 35 Polish me and another english person, we were doing office work and the owner was very friendly and paid us the wage but also let us go at 1pm instead of 5pm and she paid us the 1-5 for a few weeks until the work ended... that was in altrincham near manchester...
Seanus 15 | 19,674 16 Sep 2009 / #14You have to keep regular tabs on your income, otherwise unannounced deductions can creep in. Life is expensive enough without some jacker swindling you.
wildrover 98 | 4,441 17 Sep 2009 / #15What about the exploitation of us poor Brits working in Poland...My last job as a truck driver ended without any explanation after six months , just as i was about to get a contract....Unlike the Polish drivers , i not only drove a truck all hours , but also worked all day in the wharehouse loading up trucks and unloading containers full of doors....did i get double the wages of the Polish drivers ...err no , did i get the same...not quite , i actually got half of what the Polish drivers were paid...Currently i am working in a wood mill loading logs into bags...working from 7am untill three every day doing backbreaking work i got the huge sum of 230 zloty for last month.... there is no basic wage , you get paid for each bag filled......no wonder Polish peeps go the the UK.....might join em....?
Seanus 15 | 19,674 17 Sep 2009 / #16230PLN, what? 2300 you mean? How could this happen? I thought truck drivers got reasonable wages here.
wildrover 98 | 4,441 17 Sep 2009 / #17the 230 zloty was for the slave labour in the woodmill....nice to have the smell of fresh cut wood all day tho....
Seanus 15 | 19,674 17 Sep 2009 / #18Good point. Sometimes it's worth sacrificing cash for enjoying your work. I worked for 3.71 pounds back in 1996. I loved cutting grass, tho. My stomach was as toned as it has ever been. Too much of the good life has turned that around :(
wildrover 98 | 4,441 17 Sep 2009 / #19Yeah...it will keep me fit...if it does not kill me , and i am working with bunch of friends....our groups got a bit smaller tho , as last week one woman friend got locked up for stabbing to death her boyfriend , another workmate....alchohol problem...!
Seanus 15 | 19,674 17 Sep 2009 / #20Hmm...a motley crew :( It's tragic when it comes to that but that's life. I've seen all manner of things in my life but nothing quite as extreme as that.
wildrover 98 | 4,441 17 Sep 2009 / #21Well it was quite a shock in the small town of Poczyn zdroj...its a very quiet town...not a shock to us that know the lady tho...she was absent from work the first week as she had been locked up for fighting....Its her kids i feel sorry for...they saw the whole thing....
Seanus 15 | 19,674 17 Sep 2009 / #22I've seen needles being used to stab but not kill. Rage is a terrible thing and people should intervene before that kind of thing happens. Otherwise, it just goes on and on and I've seen that too. It's hard when you know the person, a HUGE dilemma then.
Krystal 5 | 94 17 Sep 2009 / #23I am so glad I never had problem with companies. I alway make rules to be hired and checked around companies office. I checked to see what kind of people are working over there. I saw somethings I didn't like. I declined this job offer and when on for another interviews. If I liked this company and if company called me to offer me job. I alway taken this jobs. I make sure if company have rules, policies and human rights also.If company treated people bad like they hired you for office work, boss put you to wash the floor. I will tell boss I wasn't hired for this job but only office work. Then quit. Start looking for another job.As getting job in different countries, I would checks out their rules and polices. I really hate to leave my home for stranger country.That is me.
OP southern 74 | 7,074 17 Sep 2009 / #25one woman friend got locked up for stabbing to death her boyfriendAvoid polish women with knives.(buy them some baseball bats).
Lir 17 Sep 2009 / #26Avoid polish women with knivesLOL.......you are so funny at times......(buy them some baseball bats).I would imagine being hit with a baseball would hurt a lot ?Anyways, I thought men were the ones who usually kept baseball bats under their beds to protect themselves ?one woman friend got locked up for stabbing to death her boyfriend ,Phew! I wouldn't like to have a friend like that!<Am totally shocked and find all this very incredulous lol>:)
wildrover 98 | 4,441 17 Sep 2009 / #27I wouldn't like to have a friend like that!She wasn,t exactly my best buddy , she actually lived in a flat under my friends house , but i saw her on a daily basis , and just before the murder she and her boyfriend had begun working at the same place as my friend and i , so i gave them both a lift to work every day...they both had a problem with alchohol , but the woman was also violent when drunk...
Lir 17 Sep 2009 / #28.they both had a problem with alchohol , but the woman was also violent when drunk...Seamier side of life :(Can happen anywhere in the World though I think ?
wildrover 98 | 4,441 17 Sep 2009 / #29Can happen anywhere in the World though I think ?True...but it was quite a shock to the small town of Polczyn zdroj where women can walk in the park at night without fear , its a very quiet town with friendly people...
Bondi 4 | 142 26 Sep 2009 / #30In my experience, exploitations happen when someone goes to a foreign country as an 'unskilled worker' without the knowledge of the local language. Most of the time it's plain human stupidity. When they arrive, they learn it the hard way that it's not the Promised Land.Have to add, though, that most of us from East-Europe were financially desperate to go and take on such an enterprise. But I still wouldn't have dared to come to work in the UK with no English at all!