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Deutsche Welle Claims Tabloids are Polish


scorpio 20 | 188  
5 Jun 2008 /  #1
The German media giant "Deutsche Well" claimed today that the tabloids "Fakt" and "Super Express" are "Polish" tabloids in their piece entitled, "Germans Fume as Polish Tabloids "Declare War" on Euro Rivals". How incorrect! Here are some excerpts:

- Two Polish tabloids came under fire on Thursday, June 5, for declaring a front-page war on Germany ahead of the two nations' Euro 2008 clash in Klagenfurt this Sunday.

- The two dailies, Fakt and Super Express, which ran a doctored picture calling for the heads of German striker Michael Ballack and coach Joachim Loew, were blasted by Poland's coach Leo Beenhakker and Warsaw's ambassador to Germany and also criticized by high-brow Polish media.

My comment:

"Fakt" and "Super Express" are not "Polish tabloids", and aren't even "Polish" owned. Both newpapers are foreign owned.

"Fakt" is owned by German publishing company Axel Springer AG, and modeled on Springer's German tabloid Bild. (The article admits this as well)

"Super Express" is owned by the Swedish firms Tidnings AB Marieberg and The Bonnier Group.

Two tabloids printed in Poland, with Polish employees, and controlled by German and Swedish companies. Poland or the coach of the Poland's football club has no reason to apologize, and for what...because two media publications owned and controlled by Germany and Sweden insults the Germans?
Bratwurst Boy 6 | 10,591  
5 Jun 2008 /  #2
I know that with "Fakt"...it's the same owner as germans "Bild" is...

The one shoots, the other shoots back...Poles get all riled up...it's crazy when you think about it! :)
OP scorpio 20 | 188  
5 Jun 2008 /  #3
The one shoots, the other shoots back...Poles get all riled up...it's crazy when you think about it! :)

The Poles got all riled up??? Wrong. It's the Germans that got hot headed because two foreign owned (German and Swedish) publications produced in Poland insulted the Germans. This is insane.
lesser 4 | 1,311  
5 Jun 2008 /  #4
Why would anybody buy such tabloid? Better to know nothing rather than learn about something from such sources.
Crnogorac 3 | 111  
5 Jun 2008 /  #5
EURO 2008 -- Polska - Niemcy

German fans on the road to Austria taking a p-i-ss break and singing their national anthem. When they turn their back they see their car had been stolen. Supposedly by Polish fans.

So we can see that this is 2 sided media propaganda to discredit the opponent.
Lukasz 49 | 1,746  
5 Jun 2008 /  #6
IT is typical German. Firstly German newspaper printed in Poland show their players heads in our leo hands. Later German media cry for whole europe that Polish media are not fair and that are barbarian (they forget that German newspaper printed their players without heads).

as to this comercial:

I think the German guys just forgot to push the handbreak.

Is it about that, or I don't understand ?
osiol 55 | 3,922  
5 Jun 2008 /  #7
The Daily Mail is a British newspaper that insults British people all the time. Can German newspapers not insult Germans too? In fakt, lets all be rude and dismissive about ourselves in a blindly inaccurate way.
Bratwurst Boy 6 | 10,591  
5 Jun 2008 /  #8
I think the German guys just forgot to push the handbreak.

Genau! That was it...I dunno why some Poles are so hypersensitive!
OP scorpio 20 | 188  
5 Jun 2008 /  #9
Why aren't the Swedes getting any heat for this? Their tabloid "Super Express" also insulted the Germans. :-)
Crnogorac 3 | 111  
5 Jun 2008 /  #10
Typical GERMAN!

I never pay attention to what is written, what is more important to see is who wrote it.

"Fakt" and "Super Express" are not "Polish tabloids", and aren't even "Polish" owned. Both newpapers are foreign owned."Fakt" is owned by German publishing company Axel Springer AG, and modeled on Springer's German tabloid Bild. (The article admits this as well)

German: Springer is a speaking tube of zionist interests

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axel_Springer_AG

It seems to be in the interest of a certain group of people to demonise Poles and Slavs in general as "backward and primitive racists and chauvinists" which are not worthy of friendship and symphaties of "modern democratic" westerners.
Lukasz 49 | 1,746  
5 Jun 2008 /  #11
something for Germans (the end is the best)
Bratwurst Boy 6 | 10,591  
5 Jun 2008 /  #12
It seems to be in the interest of a certain group of people to demonise Poles and Slavs in general as "backward and primitive racists and chauvinists" which are not worthy of friendship and symphaties of "modern democratic" westerners.

Erm...

Well...they showed Beenhacker holding the cutted off heads of Ballack and Löw...
Lukasz 49 | 1,746  
5 Jun 2008 /  #13
IT IS GERMAN NEWSPAPER ! you showed your players with cutted off heads and later we have seen enormous cry ! Poles don't play fair... it was so barbarian ! ...

the problem is that Bild = Fakt ...
Bratwurst Boy 6 | 10,591  
5 Jun 2008 /  #14
IT IS GERMAN NEWSPAPER ! you showed your players with cutted off heads and later we have seen enormous cry ! Poles don't play fair... it was so barbarian ! ...

But the journalists, writers, publishers etc. are Poles...
OP scorpio 20 | 188  
5 Jun 2008 /  #15
IT IS GERMAN NEWSPAPER !

Lukasz, keep in mind, there are two newspapers involved: German owned "Fakt" and Swedish owned "Super Express".
Bratwurst Boy 6 | 10,591  
5 Jun 2008 /  #16
Na ja...at least Beenhakker got it right.
Someone should have told him before which country's team he is training...

sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/soccer/wires/06/05/2080.ap.eu.spt.soc.euro.2008.tasteless.tabloids.0810/index.html

Beenhakker, who is Dutch, issued an apology to the German people on behalf of his team for an "awful thing'' by "weird and dirty and sick people.''

PS: I've heard the UEFA is pi*sed off too...
Lukasz 49 | 1,746  
5 Jun 2008 /  #17
Na JA ! Something new for us I don't think that German newspaper printed in Poland have done it by mistake ...

and your add before PL-Ger match is the best example ... typical German !

and your last post is typical german and you stick to your german line ...
Harry  
5 Jun 2008 /  #18
It seems to be in the interest of a certain group of people to demonise Poles and Slavs in general as "backward and primitive racists and chauvinists"

Like the magazine which showed the President and the Prime Minister of Poland sucking the breasts of the Chancellor of Germany?

Oh, wait, that was a Polish-owned Polish magazine....
OP scorpio 20 | 188  
5 Jun 2008 /  #19
But the journalists, writers, publishers etc. are Poles...

Bratwurst Boy, poor excuse. I'm sure the German and Swedish owners examine the contents of their publications before they hit the street. If not, then they are being poorly managed.

Let's say I, being a citizen of Poland and director of a Polish based company called ABC, own a publication called XYZ in Germany, and all of the staff and editors are German workers. For sure, I would appoint a native Pole who is an employee of the Polish parent company ABC to oversee the contents of each issue before producing a final cut of the publication XYZ.
Bratwurst Boy 6 | 10,591  
5 Jun 2008 /  #20
Man scorpio...I so don't care what the tabloids write.

We know that game abit longer than the Poles (being first timers), but we have had glorious paper-battles with lot's of enemies...

Could we please stop here and concentrate on the game again?
Take it easy man! :)
OP scorpio 20 | 188  
5 Jun 2008 /  #21
Like the magazine which showed the President and the Prime Minister of Poland sucking the breasts of the Chancellor of Germany?

Oh, wait, that was a Polish-owned Polish magazine....

The crucial difference is, nobody denied that "Wprost" is a Polish-owned Polish magazine.

In this thread, the issue is the German media giant "Deutsche Well" claims that "Fakt" and "Super Express" are "Polish tabloids, which they aren't.
Bratwurst Boy 6 | 10,591  
5 Jun 2008 /  #22
In this thread, the issue is the German media giant "Deutsche Well" claims that "Fakt" and "Super Express" are "Polish tabloids, which they aren't.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fakt

Fakt (Polish for "fact")is a Polish tabloid-style daily newspaper and the biggest-selling paper in the country, with a circulation of more than 500,000 and an estimated readership of 7 million.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Express

Super Express is a Polish tabloid published in Warsaw since 1991.

They write in polish, they are published in Poland, the audience is Polish, the writers are Poles...you were saying?
Lukasz 49 | 1,746  
5 Jun 2008 /  #23
You admited that it isn't owned by Poles ... and now you post WIKIPEDIA with info that it is Polish. Axel Springer isn't Pole.
lesser 4 | 1,311  
5 Jun 2008 /  #24
Why are you so obsessed with nationality? Tabloids are destined for small minded people whom are present in every country. They explore their intellectual weakness printing controversial articles of very low quality. Everything tabloid owners are interested are profits. So, what is the point in analyzing who is Polish and who is a German?
Bratwurst Boy 6 | 10,591  
5 Jun 2008 /  #25
Yup...just wanting to heat up the mood to sell more papers, that's all guys! :)

But...it's still interesting...the biggest paper in Poland is German-owned after all...hmmm...:)
Lukasz 49 | 1,746  
5 Jun 2008 /  #26
. So, what is the point in analyzing who is Polish and who is a German?

I think that owner should apologise Germans ... ohhh he is German. Because it is strange that Newspapers owned by Axel Springer ask Poles for excuses because of articles in papers owned by Axel.

btw tabloids suck.

Don't read foreign Polish press only true Polish !
Bratwurst Boy 6 | 10,591  
5 Jun 2008 /  #27
Beenhakker apologized...it's enough for us! :)
Lukasz 49 | 1,746  
5 Jun 2008 /  #28
he is Dutch ... and he doesn't understand your piggy tricks and Polish -German relationship. He decided to cut it at the begining. I understand him in some way ... I am not going to comment his decision.

btw. You are true KRAUT
Crnogorac 3 | 111  
5 Jun 2008 /  #29
as to this commercial: I think the German guys just forgot to push the handbrake. Is it about that, or I don't understand ?

Genau! That was it...I dunno why some Poles are so hypersensitive!

Tuesday, 27.5.2008 17:04
Germans insult Poles with "dumb commercial".



Two weeks before the long awaited match between Germany and Poland at European Championship from Munich started tiny provocations.

In Germany so it was recorded a TV commercial which portrays on an old stereotype about Poles in Germany as car thieves. In the commercial it was shown a group of German fans on the way to the Euro, to which the Poles, during p-i-ss pause, caused probably by over consumption of large quantities of drunk beer, Poles steal their automobile.

Polish society unanimously condemned this type of propaganda and called it as a continuation of stupid German jokes on account of Poles, as the one that Polish Tourist Organization German tourists lures with a slogan: "Come to Poland, your automobile is already here."

Especially rough was the reaction of the former Polish national team goalkeeper Jan Tomaszewski who stated that "this kind of commercial can only be imagined and recorded by a son of a who-re."

"This commercial is an insult for all Poles and I cannot see what is in it funny. This is a stupid joke to which our Football Association must react." stated Tomaszewski.
Lukasz 49 | 1,746  
5 Jun 2008 /  #30
Germans are sons of who_res.

berlin

They build for brave Russian soldiers monument ;) So German girls liked it ...

'They raped every German female from eight to 80'

Antony Beevor, author of the acclaimed new book about the fall of Berlin, on a massive war crime committed by the victorious Red Army.


books.guardian.co.uk/news/articles/0,,707928,00.html

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