Buzek. another step to abyss?

Polish presidency in EU? Are you joking? You elected as your president representative of most sceptic, most unpredictable and most selfsufficient nation in europe. Are you mad? Let me guess following consequences...

1. Endless quarrels between new and old members. Moreover, it will be accompanied with further deepening of dislike between Pl and Germany
2. European business in Russia will be freezed by constant Polish claims and pretensions to Russia.
3. As a result, the softening ties in EU and eventuall collaps of this union.

Which constant claims are you refering to, Putinek?


If anyone can bring this Marxist kolhoz down, we can. So help us God. Not with Buzek though.

ConstantineK, you might not like it but membership in the EU is broadly popular in Poland and Polish people currently see a lot more plusses than negatives (and the EU is the _only_ supranational organization of its kind with a proven track record of reducing poverty).

If Poland is going to be in the EU (the clear political will of the great majority of the country) it might as well have some influence in it.

What would you suggest Poland do, become a Russian client like Belarus to be bullied at will? Russia has no track record of improving the lives of the people that live in it or the lives in its client states. If Russian leaders were truly interested in improving the lives of Russians they would be doing very different things from what they're currently doing.

Which direction do people want to move in: To Russia from the EU? To the EU from Russia?

Kind of says it all.

No, the problem is that you haven't learned to read properly.

Anyway, Buzek has got what is famed for being one of the shittest jobs in Europe.

Maybe he thinks Poles should limit their involvment in the European job market to plumbers and house cleaners.?

I don't think so, clearly you have no idea about polish politics reality, I don't mind, but still you shouldn't state something without having any knowledge about the subject. Buzek was mainly supported by PO party, a party of dialogue. There won't be anything like endless quarrels..


Last time we acted was when Russia accused us of starting the 2 world war. How could we let somebody get away with something like that? I don't remember any claims recently, do you? If we want to be a part of the us anti-missile system we can't be too loud anyway...


A giant as big as EU won't collapse because of something as petty as a polish leader. And why would it, Buzek is strong person in the right place. We are on the frontier here and this will allow EU to strenghten its boarders.

I think you just pulled those out of nowhere, and what's wrong about being selfsufficient?

First, I'm not sure if you can say that "presidency in EU" is in any equal with "presidency of the EU parliament. I think these things are different.

Mr. Buzek is a man known for his concilliatory caracter. He wasn't perhaps particularly good as a former Prime minister of Poland (he let himself to be driven too much from the back seat by Mr. Krzaklewski, former Solidarity leader and a rather deplorable figure in my view), but as a president of the EU parliament he is destined to perform well. A protestant from an overwhelmingly Catholic country (with no links whatsoever to the KGB, its Polish affiliates or the communist party in the totalitarian past), scientist and engineer in chemistry, he is definitely a man with great integrity. His relations with Germany seem to be excellent (Bundeskanzlerin Angela Merkel has been backing him to this post), and I would never think of him as anti-Russian.

To sum up, your information on Mr. Buzek reminds us of the old joke abour Radio Erevan (formerly a city in the Soviet Union):
- Is it true that they were offering cars to people in the Red Square in Moscow yesterday?
- Yes, it is true, it did happen in the Red Square. But they weren't cars, they were bicycles. And they were not offering them, they were stealing them.

We'll get over it due to a simple fact, money does not stink, Polish or German money is money and unlike Russians both Poles and Germans are civilized enough to, with difficulty, get over themselves and carry on.


European business in Russia is already being killed by Russian corruption and failing domestic economy, heard of Ikea withdrawal? Before you bytch about Poland start worrying about your impoverished falling apart country first.

While your politicians play around with your gas deposits your economy is going to have an extremely sharp fall this year and experts claim its a beginning of a downward trend that might lead to a collapse so Poland is the least of your problems.


You wish, while its possible EU will collapse Russia will fail as a state long before that happens, compare your own demographic, civilizational and economic issues with those of EU and you've got an answer where you are as a country.

Please don't delude yourself. Actually Poland has two different choices.

1. Russia + Poland against Germany
2. Russia + Germany against Poland + England (US)

Should I remind you about the trustworthiness of your "alies"?


oops, the situation is even worse than I thought.


Nothing wrong, in fact, especially when your selfsufficiency is not imaginary fact... For example, Russia is selfsufficient, US is selfsufficient, but Poland is not.


No comments, actually it is you, Poles, who want to think that Russians accuse you of starting ww2. These fears serve you as perfect feed for your hatred towards Russia.


The one actually important thing is "he is pole"...he will be influenced by whole Polish society, which is extrimely negative and extravagant


Meat, compensations, oil, gas, pipeline, partitions, milk, straits, PRO...etc. Should I proceed?


I agree, here we share same interest...


Improving lives? It is not main purpose of the state's existance.


Each one ought to do what he knows how to do it..., thus two professions which remain for Poles are, you are right, plumbers and house cleaners.... basta, your fate!

I don't think so Constantine...

Poland and Germany are in the EU and in the NATO together, Russia is the odd one left out...
So your math won't work anymore....it's the old times math..the "history math" so to speak, true for many centuries but not anymore...

The modern, correct math is:

EU + NATO = against any enemy from the outside


I don't think so Constantine....Russia imports mightily from the EU and China...a "selfsufficient" country looks differently!
(The US also is not "selfsufficient"! I think only some stoneage tribe in the Amazon rain forest is really "selfsufficient")

Ha-ha-ha Do you need modern one? Please here it is!

Russia + oil + gas + Germany against Poland

I think it will work perfectly we should only wait...

Nope...

If you mean the baltic pipeline, it's meant for the whole of Europe, not only Germany.

But Russia better starts to prepare for the times they can't sell any oil or gas anymore.
What then oh mighty Russia? What else do you have to give the world?

Do you know that Germans plan to get clean energy from the african desert to make Europe independent from you and others?
Sure, it will take some years but the preparations are already in the making...

What then Constantine?

Com'on you know that in our past we lived almost fourscore years in isolation...Could Poland do the same?

Then you should pay your hommage to arabs...do you want it? I doubt.


Oh, leave these silly explanations for Poles, we both know the truth

Were you happy with it?


More than we do right now???
That's not the idea behind it...:)
If all goes according to plan we buy the land in the desert but make sure the Africans profit from this technology too, so they will have a healthy interest to let it work.

A win/win situation for all sides...


We NEED energy, that's the plain truth!
Right now our possibilities are limited...

Hmmm. *******, you perfectly aware that you, Germans, cannot deal honestly. The situation win/win sounds almost as joke from the moth of German....he-he, first technology of clear energy and power plants then technology of pure race and modern concentration camps...how it will sound in german, draht on south, I think...

Is this all you can say Constantine?
It won't be enough for Russia to keep up...:)

Better start thinking about what else you could sell once nobody is interested in your gas and oil anymore!

I don't think so, we will have our old friends Poles still....somebody whom we can torture as it was in the past...

That is so.....yesteryear! :)

BTW, we have cedar nuts....perfect commodity. Do you like them?

Those from Sibiria? Sure...bring 'em on! :)

<shrugs> I like Smirnoffs.

Oh I forgot another good thing for export - war!

You have technology, well, we will take them from you. God preached to share with one's neighbour

well, you stated quite the contrary in your first post...


telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/5445161/Russia-accuses-Poland-of-starting-Second-World-War.html
It's not fiction.. but believe whatever you want. As for hatred I don't know a single polish person holding a grudge or being hateful towards Russians.


I'm sorry but that's just drivel, nationality doesn't bias anyone - there are as many "point of view"s as there is people living..


I don't think so, from what I heard there are parts of Russia that are under regression. Roads disappearing, towns dieing out. It's not a sign of a selfsufficient country.

They must have been happy with it! That is why Constantinek is so angry with us, Poles, who despite having lived in the most joyful barrack of all barracks of the Soviet block, protested against the Soviet domination in Eastern Europe. He still tries to play the German card without realizing that the era of Cathrine II had passed. He places all his hopes in the Baltic Pipe. He still dreams of an imperial Russia (ot Vladivostoka do Bielogostoka) which walks hand in hand with imperial Germany. He just can't stand ... the new political realities of Europe, so he looses his nerve to the point of declaring:


Constantinek, instead of loosing your temper in this rather un-Russian way:
1. Try to think of repurchasing Alaska from the US to whom you so recklessly sold it.
2. Watch out for the Chinese coming in great numbers to live in Siberia or just try to sell it to them, but be careful to bargain a better price than you got for Alaska!

Besides being ignorant of the issues discussed and having poor taste, do you like anything else?

I'd like to hear more about that. It is clear that Russia is not a reliable supplier of energy, and at any whim uses its leverage to stop delivery, as PutineK pointed ouit, it would be sensible to look elswhere. Let them stew in their "empire."

I'd like to kick your ass. Other than that, no. BTW, I don't type out a book doesn't mean I'm "ignorant" of the issues. You are the sad, little internet b/tch. Congrats on that. I guess a Polack wins at something, no?

Here you are:

guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/jun/16/solar-power-europe-africa
spiegel.de/international/business/0,1518,630699,00.html
desertec.org
youtube.com/v/QXURvISjh2A

Weak. Very weak, but keep trying.


Not at all. I'm a real guy in Warsaw hailing from a long line of warriors. PM me if in the area.

Thanks BB,

Typical of you Gerries, trying to steal sunshine from poor Africans. lol

If they had any jobs, you would steal those from them.

Well...if all goes according to plan they will get lots of clean drinkwater in exchange...this technology works that way!

Europe get's the energy and Africa the water...a win/win situation as I said!