800 thousand Polish women are victims of domestic abuse yearly

get over it man....this is the real world..I never said hitting is ok...but it happens..EVERYWHERE!..

pathetic maybe...but by saying that will not stop it happening!...
and as for 'mangina'! ....well nope..I wont rise to that 'pathetic' comment!..

ps. you have too much spare time!!

so far only Szkocja has a proof that domestic abuse is a problem for males as well.

ok ok...i get hit by my Polish wife.....happy!...so flippin what!

I don't usually talk so much...I think i need a shrink!

Yea, well, what are you doing on these threads? Duh!

Aren't you the one who stated: "I'm a man....if a women hits me I KNOW I have done something wrong and probably deserved it" Are you going to report your spouse for hitting you? (nah, rarely do men do that). If not then you are part of the problem.

Oh, if you hit your spouse back she'll report you and that will add to the phony statistics kept by shelters.

My links provided a fuller account of reality which "DV" advocates shun because they fear the truth. Silence from them on the 'feibert' studies is indeed deafening. Interesting that Miranda notes; "so far only Szkocja has a proof that domestic abuse is a problem for males as well." while ignoring the total picture as illustrated by my many examples.

i'm not talking about victims lightheartedly...but some victims ''choose'' to be victims....

by the way I'm talking about continuous abuse here....free will and all that...get up...open the door...and leave.

Can I call you a f**king idiot? Okay, you're a f**king idiot!


If it was that easy women wouldn't have to get injuctions out on ex partners - they wouldn't have to live in battered wives refuges...

Again, can I call you a complete knob?

I didn't ignore them, but they did not convince me. If you claim to be such as specialist on women's violence against men I would expect you to provide some reliable sourced, instead of naming a problem of domestic violence as an hateful industry against male gender. You have no case so far and you have proved that you quote things to support your way of thinking, which is: denial domestic abuse against women. How can I take your claims seriously?

You are talking about some truth being denied. I still don't get your point in this matter. What truth? I have never denied the fact that men are abused, but the fact that more women are abused to a greater degree is a common knowledge, so I am not sure what are you trying to prove here.

Both types of abuse happen, but more women die form it.

You did ignore them otherwise how can you not be convinced by this incredible amount of information;
csulb.edu/~mfiebert/assault.htm

Are all of these independent studies lies?


See above link which (again) disproves your assertion(s). One cannot get more reliable than the "247 scholarly investigations: 188 empirical studies and 59 reviews"; all independent from one another. For you to not comprehend this is well, unbelievable.


Now you are being just plain stupid. SHOW ME WHERE I DENY "DV" ABUSE AGAINST WOMEN! Now, I've noted the exaggerations and even quoted feminists. You suspiciouslly ignore their quotes. Too much reality eh?


That is the problem. Your "common knowledge" is a myth, perpetuated by rabid misandrists. Men and women are domestically abused in approximately equal numbers. I've already proven that by those links which you obviously did not read or comprehend.


In the U.S. it is too easy to get a restraining order against men. Perhaps this example of a woman who successfully got a restraining order against popular tv comedian David Letterman whom she never met shows the absurdity of it.

redorbit.com/news/oddities/341207/restraining_order_against_letterman_tossed/index.html

"A state judge has lifted a restraining order granted to a Santa Fe woman who accused talk-show host David Letterman of using coded words to show that he wanted to marry her and train her as his co-host."

Those "coded words" were supposedly made thru the tv program.

"Nestler's application for a restraining order was accompanied by a six-page typed letter in which she said Letterman used code words, gestures and "eye expressions" to convey his desires for her."

For those who don't know the general facts, here they are:
1/Letterman never met the woman
2/She claimed he sent her coded messages thru his tv show
3/She accused Letterman of inflicting mental cruelty, causing sleep deprivation, and contributing to her financial ruin. She won her temporary restraining order the same day. Think about that; some judge issued a restraining order against a man who never knew this woman existed based on her 'feelings'.

Zimmy,

I am not going to repeat myself. I have said everything I had to say and I don't appreciate being called stupid. And don't tell me that I asked for it. It is plain rude and uncalled for.

You sound like a complete idiot it me BTW and I am soooo tired of your arguments, and NO, I don't want to see anymore links from you. Use real life examples form your life, not some unbelievable stories from the net.

You obviously have some issues with DV against men not being discussed enough, but if you excuse me, I am interested more in the issues related to women in POLAND. This is PF, so if you are keen on supporting those issues related to Polish men, go for it.

Poland is not US, just in case you were on the way to be off topic here.
In the U.S. and in England women's groups would have you believe that every man is an abuser. Conversely, they deny existence of female domestic violence.

- what does that have to do with the topic of this thread ?????????????????????????????????????????I cannot see the connection. Different countries, different social circumstances, different topic all together. Can you read??????????

translation:
I can't refute the Feibert studies and I have no logical replies to you.


You don't appreciate being called stupid but it's ok for you to call me an idiot. Hmmmm, typical female double standard? Oh, you were called stupid because you erroneously accused me of denying abuse against women. You should apologize for that as you are unable to show proof of it. It's called 'projection'. For instance, if I correct you and say that men are abused too; you don't hear that. Instead, you hear this, "women are not abused". That's an unfortunate conditioned response by people caught up in their own matrix.


Truth is painful.


Fear is even more painful.


I have plenty so don't tempt me (but it's ok if you do). The problem with personal stories is that they are anecdotal. That means they are not necessarily representative of something as a whole. That's why misuse of anecdotal evidence is a logical fallacy thus hearsay or even empirical evidence is not used to generalize something, in this case, domestic violence. ....seems like you prefer your small fishbowl.


I (now) realize that you are limited in your ability to make connections. Any evidence contrary to your myopic beliefs is threatening to your bellief system. That's why you have not been able to refute the preponderance of evidence I've shown. Instead you suggest that I not respond.

sorry, have better thing to do at the moment:).

good luck in your crusade Zimmy, but I find you a little patronizing and I am tired of talking to you.

You sure understand when someone is just NOT interested, or don't you?

Well thank you and good luck in your crusade as well. Just try to be objective.


It's more like you are "tired" of the evidence I've presented. Your failure to comment on the evidence (Feibert in particular) is astonishing and speaks volumes.


O yea, I forgot; only you are allowed an opinion but I'm not allowed to state the facts.
I suggest you take the time to read the information I've provided. It's been obvious that this has been difficult for you as evidenced by your non responses to the many challenges I've instigated. You can't grow with that kind of attitude or approach.

One for the road;
sheridanhill.com/batteredmen.html
Excerpt:
""Women can smoke dope, booze it up, throw a fist, wield a knife, use a gun, beat their spouse, and beat their kids. It is a type of violence that is ignored, condoned, and treated as frivolous by a justice system that survives by feeding on the one individual (male) who is easily stereo-typed, lacks public sympathy, does not raise fear of reprisal in politicians, and often does not fight back."

"Because a man in my life dared to speak up to me, I researched the problem of women who abuse men. It was a very painful discovery"

Amen

A woman once beat me up with a funny cigarette.

Life is too short!!!!


get lost!!!!!

:D note to myself: never get involved in a conversation with a feking frustrated, patronizing American preacher

Your lack of intellectual input is duly noted; and here for all to see.

I have to agree with you here ZIMMY....;)(I know u dont really like ppl agreeing with u!!)

wow - that sounds like a shaming language, you patronizing twat;)

I knew you were ok; it just took a while :)


You know if you insist on calling me names than calling me a 'dick' would be more appropriate. A "twat" is so feminizing and antifemale. Shame on you.

ha, ha, you have not choice I am afraid.


tough lack, take it or leave it, you have no choice;)


really? ha, ha.........
you have ruined my thread.

miranda, you really are being pathetic here.

why do you think so?

That doesnt mean I agree with everything u say!!!

You are a bit obsessed!

Nah, you have ruined your (own) thread. You cannot communicate logically but in typical female fashion (ouch) you get emotional and 'feel' that your name-calling suffices for discourse.

women are different from men because they get more emotional... it's a diffrence between men and women, not worth bashing by you, don't you think?

yah, you have said that in many forms so many times, about women in general.

I don't expect any other answer from you and you are a patronizing twat.

PGTX - women are not more emotional, stop typing that crap, you are not helping here.

Um, pgtx you confuse bashing with stating facts (and I've stated many). Current society is not accustomed to hearing a flip side, it's.......not customary to call womyn on their bullcrap. That's why so many are shocked when someone does. Women and manginas better get used to it though. It's ok. It's called equality.

An example: Miranda, says,"PGTX - women are not more emotional, stop typing that crap, you are not helping here."

Yea, you better stop that because the poor little girl needs more emotional support, not cold hard truth.

women are... read what you typed above...

in that case you have a proof of the generalization and I am glad to provide it for you.

I am wondering how long people will write off topic here.

I have met polish women who suffered beating by husbands as well as ones who beat males really hard with heavy objects.So abuse is equal opportunity.

yes, in general, women are more emotional then men...


i'm happy to make you glad...