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Patrycja19 63 | 2,699  
10 Nov 2006 /  #61
Whole milk has more of those hormones than 2%.

your right, and I hate it too. personally, I prefer tea. water, lots of water. but
it seems like everything you look at in the stores are preserved!

we will all be walking zombies grrrrrrrrr hahahahahaha.

ok, going to make some supper with much preservation!! hahahahaha.

me outtie.
indiced  
13 Jul 2008 /  #62
Poles don't need to learn to save!
I am Polish citizen, live in Lublin, and I'm shocked about those opinions.
I'm in environmental things, and e.g. I don't waste paper, I don't use paper-towels, I use cotton-towels, multiple use, when it's dirty I just wash it and use it large number times. I also buy milk in glass-bottles, recycle mobile-phones and other devices, use reusable bags, berate (!) using of plastic bags, and eating at McDonald's.

I prefer walking than driving. I live in really green-city, where people started green-living, where I can find special containers for segregated trash. And I don't think Poles are wasters.

We (Poles) eat probably unhealthy things and we are still fit, we are probably wasters but we have still green and clean nature. Americans are always talking about whole food, environment and other shits alike, but aren't role model for us.

Typical Pole produces 250-300kg of Garbage per Year.
Typical American produces 600-662 kg of Garbage per Year.

Each American makes about 4 pounds of garbage daily.
If the rest of the world produced as much as Americans, there would be about 10 MILLION tons daily, or 4 TRILLION tons yearly.

US-Citizens, do you remember a Kyoto Protocol?
I dunno why, but you restrained of ratifying it...

I am asking, who is the waster now?
Patrycja19 63 | 2,699  
18 Jul 2008 /  #63
I am asking, who is the waster now?

you are right, at some point it was a big deal to conserve and to recycle, and
its not like that anymore, people went back to old ways, and even my work
used to recycle ( hospital) and now they dont, and I think it has to do with
money/pickup , because I do not see the recycle bin outside the hospital
anymore.
SeanBM 35 | 5,808  
18 Jul 2008 /  #64
I think the recent rise in cost for rubbish disposal is helping people realise that recycling is a better alternative.
Also I know a woman in America who uses paper plates for each daily meal. Are there more people who do this heinous act?
People in rich countries do seem to waste more. But really if anyone wants to see the environmentally friendly country go to Norway.
Patrycja19 63 | 2,699  
18 Jul 2008 /  #65
who uses paper plates for each daily meal.

she must be lazy then, I hate using paper plates.. maybe we do for when
a large amount of people come over, but never for daily use, wash the dishes!

People in rich countries do seem to waste more. But really if anyone wants to see the environmentally friendly country go to Norway.

well if thats true, we should be following in their footsteps.
Kowalski 7 | 621  
19 Jul 2008 /  #66
What many Poles don't save is electricity and water. Most wash dishes in running water and idea of soaking dishes is not that popular. The same goes with households lights. I once heard ironic "ARE YOU SAVING?" when turning off unnecessary lights. They thought I was... cheap :) ( I think)

In Sweden I saw people saving soap, they'd put small soap pieces together into mesh bag (the ones you get buying carrots or lemons). Poles just throw away soap when not "handy" anymore.......well some (me,too) would sometimes use it to soak dirty socks before hand washing.
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
19 Jul 2008 /  #67
I agree with Nita to a large extent. The degree of electricity wasting is high. I guess I see it more as I'm Scottish, we are born to save and be thrifty. If I'm led to believe the salary figures that are bandied about, the Poles can ill afford to be wasteful. Time to be frugal folks
Lir  
19 Jul 2008 /  #68
Time to be frugal folks

But many British people aren't frugal are they ?

Maybe Polish people aren't frugal about some things but from my experience they have <out of necessity> always had to make do with very little and ensure it goes a long way.

Do they have water meters in Poland ?

Also, how many people here leave all their electrical stuff on standby ?

Maybe we just look at obvious waste <staring us in the face> rather than the hidden ones ?
chrissr 1 | 13  
20 Jul 2008 /  #69
The Germans can often drive things to absurdity by creating laws they have later difficoulties to comply with or are somply out of touch with reality (i.e. some time ago they had a law which forced people to turn their bottles into the shop wher they bought their botteled product...

Is this really out of touch with reality? In Norway we have returned bottles for as long as I can remember. You pay a little extra for the bottle, and get it back when you return it. You can return them at just about any store. Saves both money and the enviroment.
indiced - | 6  
22 Jul 2008 /  #70
What many Poles don't save is electricity and water.

What many Americans don't save is electricity and water. Lovely.

Dishwashers aren't popular, in comparison with traditional techniques of washing, they are wasting too much water.

Is this really out of touch with reality?

No, it isn't, I think it's very valuable initiative.
In Poland we can return only glass bottles, it's like unwritten and simplified recognisance, called 'kaucja'.
For plastic bottles are special containers, those bottles and other plastic things go to the recycling factory. Except for reusable plastic bottles (pre-filled bottles) of soda, which we can buy/exchange at the corner stores.

Are there more people who do this heinous act?

Paper plates in Poland?
Only at open-air festivals, where food is provided for a large number of people, using them at home is very unpopular.
In America? Probably... I remember one take from "Little Miss Sunshine" (US production), where family have had very unhealthy dinner, i.e. pack of KFC's hot wings, sprite...and a salad....yummy... very healthy...and they've used ONLY paper plates and plastic cutlery and cups... it have shocked me... because I used to ritualise preparing and having meals, spending time on it. Especially among family, it's kind of Savoir-vivre, and part of culture. Using paper plates is in my opinion kind of bastardising.

Do they have water meters in Poland ?

No, they haven't...they still drink rainwater...

Seriously, water-meters in Poland are everywhere, in every building...Poles call them "Wodomierz", it measures the volume of water usage...
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
22 Jul 2008 /  #71
The Scots are not frugal? Come off it
SeanBM 35 | 5,808  
22 Jul 2008 /  #72
Is this really out of touch with reality? In Norway we have returned bottles for as long as I can remember. You pay a little extra for the bottle, and get it back when you return it. You can return them at just about any store. Saves both money and the enviroment.

Ponta florska?
You can return some of the beer bottles here in Poland to most shops that sell them, you pay a little more and they give you back the money when you return them but only for a certain size, maybe it'll catch on to the other sizes.

But I have not seen the numerous machines that you can use in Norway anywhere else.

The Scots are not frugal? Come off it

Don't Scots put a fork in the sugar bowl?

Just a joke, I don't know if it is true but their are many jokes about the frugal Scots.
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
22 Jul 2008 /  #73
We wet the fork first. Failing that, we have these microspoons, LOL

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