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Smoking ban - will this be coming to Poland like other EU countries?


King Sobieski  2 | 714  
31 May 2007 /  #61
But, we have to eat and we don't have to smoke.

true, but everything is bad for you.

i dont mind the smoking bans coming into effect in australia on the 1st july 2007 as i am social smoker and only do so while im drinking. this may force me to kick the habit.

but people like adiliski preaching to people their beliefs is a bit too much.
Eurola  4 | 1898  
31 May 2007 /  #62
Yep, his preaching and jihad against smoking is not going to help :)
(Neither his insults) :-!
FISZ  24 | 2116  
2 Jun 2007 /  #63
thats not fair, you should say **** like that

You're starting to aggrivate me. If you'd read the post that I was quoting.....

Casimir: If you want to smoke, who cares? As long as it's not weed I don't care.
FISZ: Yeah...as long as it kills you it's ok :/

tobacco is natural...it is derived from a plant...just like weed.

yeah with 4000 chemicals added to it

it leads onto other dangerous subtances

What dangerous substance does smoking cigarettes cause you to do. This is some more BS you make up. Smoking cigs in no way has an influences people to take drugs. Do you say the same for Hukka's?
adilski  2 | 105  
2 Jun 2007 /  #64
Do you say the same for Hukka's?

whats that?? an american drug????
i know my friends who started off on cigs then mild drugs then pure heroin addicts... not every smoker experiences this but there is a correlation.........

You're starting to aggrivate me.

have patience my respected brother..........

what about all the preservatives and other chemicals in food, they have the potential to be cancer causing. should we not eat?

if food was sooooooooooooooooo bad humans wouldnt have survived this looooooooooong cause evryone needs to eat... some people smoke and in that some, some die of the smoke........

but people like adiliski preaching to people their beliefs is a bit too much.

are u not in the same category when u said eating also casues death...? i think as humans we are the same... we like to talk
FISZ  24 | 2116  
2 Jun 2007 /  #65
know my friends who started off on cigs then mild drugs then pure heroin addicts... not every smoker experiences this but there is a correlation.........

You have more than one friend this happened to? Shame.

I've never heard of this happening to anyone. Maybe Marijuana can be a gateway drug for some, but niccotine? Highly doubt it. IMHO.
adilski  2 | 105  
2 Jun 2007 /  #66
Highly doubt it.

ur choice to beleive it, i gain nothing by making things up.. from my frtiends who never smoke cigs and those who do - the ones who never smoked have never engaged in drugs and those who have smoked a percentage of them have.. just talking from experience...
King Sobieski  2 | 714  
3 Jun 2007 /  #67
if food was sooooooooooooooooo bad humans wouldnt have survived this looooooooooong cause evryone needs to eat... some people smoke and in that some, some die of the smoke........

well, if you feel safe with eating food that is sprayed with pesticides and preservatives then you should have no problem smoking. increases in cancer and other diseases have not only increased because of smoking but all the chemicals we now use.

i know my friends who started off on cigs then mild drugs then pure heroin addicts... not every smoker experiences this but there is a correlation.........

this is pure crap...this has more to with the indivdual personality than tobacco.
pecunia  
6 Jun 2007 /  #68
the truth is that as a student ( i started studying in Poland, and now I am on the second year in Cornwall ) I can see that there is definately more young people smoking in UK than in Poland. I mean DEFINATELY.

The problem with Poland is that they simply don't want to ban smoking. People would get over it.
BubbaWoo  33 | 3502  
6 Jun 2007 /  #69
I can see that there is definately more young people smoking in UK than in Poland. I mean DEFINATELY.

interesting... are there statistics to support this...?

The problem with Poland is that they simply don't want to ban smoking.

major cigarette companies have invested phenominal amounts in the polish over recent years... there is a desire to protect this investment for as long as possible
joepilsudski  26 | 1387  
6 Jun 2007 /  #70
The government has no business involving itself in this matter...the curious thing is: do
a search & find out who actually owns & runs these tobacco companies...you might find the names interesting...also, the prices just keep going up & up...I first bought a pack

of Marlboros about 1966, and the price was 49 cents US...now Marlboros are about
$4.50 a pack in Pennsylvania...when I lived in the UK in the late 90's, cigs were about
$7.70 US for a 20-pack, and because of this high price, they also sold 10-packs, about
$4 US...so the tobacco companies are still raking it in...but this ban: in Philadelphia we
have a politically correct/corrupt mayor & city council, and they banned smoking in all
bars in the city that sold food...this ban has hurt business, and you see the ridiculous
spectacle of people standing in front of bars, smoking cigarettes...and, of course, they
are not allowed to take their beer or drink out with them when they smoke!
daffy  22 | 1153  
6 Jun 2007 /  #71
I think the point of gov't is to interfere. We may just not like what it interferes
your ok with roads until they build on through your back garden

education, until they start teaching creationism (lets say)

and health. smoking IS a health issue. They can ID how much is being spent on health for smoking related treatments - in the UK & IRE it was a sizable amount justifying such a state intervention.

its my opinion
asiia  - | 10  
6 Jun 2007 /  #72
i hope so, if someone chooses to smoke, do it to yourself and not everyone around you.
jnowiski  2 | 121  
21 Jun 2007 /  #73
to joepilsudski, i agree with you about it hurting business. I'm not a smoker but i don't care if people around me smoke, i've come to the conclusion that i'm going to die of cancer someday anyways, for one cause there are so many types of cancer out there, and two, i'm a big smokeless tobacco user (whose thinking about quitting but probably won't...for a while anyways) idk, i think smokers should be respectful of others wishes to not smoke around them, but i don't think they shouldn't be allowed to smoke. and taking smoking out of bars? wtf is up with that, that's like the best place to smoke...i guess, besides outside. haha.
OP sapphire  22 | 1241  
29 Jun 2007 /  #74
Sod it.. only 2 days to go... Im off for a fag.
possum  
30 Oct 2007 /  #75
Does anyone honestly believe they want people to stop smoking with all the money they're raking in via taxes. No they'll make a show of it by keep putting up the tax, but if everyone gave up smoking each country would be billions a year short in taxes, and then we can ask them nice anti-smoking zealots how they like subsiding the government now that no-one partakes in the smelly habit.

Smokers, get in first, call for an outright ban on the sale of tobacco, stuff the antis and governments. Turn the tables.

As for the poster that said the Polish will have to have to re-programmed. You should be ashamed of yourself after your country was dictated by the Communists. All Poland has done now is replace one dictatorship with another, the EU.

Nxt on the list of EU bans is Polish Vodka.
plk123  8 | 4119  
30 Oct 2007 /  #76
and, of course, they
are not allowed to take their beer or drink out with them when they smoke!

go smokeless. lol
moonmustang  2 | 46  
31 Oct 2007 /  #77
they have a law in some US states where it is banned in places where children would possiby be but not in bars...that seems like somewhat of a happy medium - that way you can still smoke while drinking.

Helps keep non-smoking vegetarians happy too :)
jareck8  
31 Oct 2007 /  #78
it should be - smoking kills and smells
sledz  23 | 2247  
31 Oct 2007 /  #79
1/1/08
the new ban takes in effect ........ all bars and resturants

sorry i didnt read the EU thingggy

anywho welome to my world:)
ShelleyS  14 | 2883  
31 Oct 2007 /  #80
its not made any difference to me personally - but the pub trade has dropped off - quite a few older type pubs have closed down! RIP to the Millstone :(
Daisy  3 | 1211  
31 Oct 2007 /  #81
As a non smoker I have breathed in more passive smoke since the ban than before it…….. Every time I walk through the main gate at work, I have to walk through a fog of smokers, who never troubled me when they had a smoking room.

When I walk down the street, every office/shop doorway I pass, a group of people are stood on the pavement filling the area with smoke....................... What is wrong with giving people designated areas? I can choose not to go into those areas.

Just my pennies worth
RalphyCC  1 | 34  
31 Oct 2007 /  #82
Having stopped smoking again, I am now a confirmed passive smoker, & think all establishments should have a smoking room as in times past, where I can get my kicks
Yogibear  - | 40  
31 Oct 2007 /  #83
First they came for the smokers..........
AvJoeUK  
31 Oct 2007 /  #84
True Words Daisy, doesnt make alot of sense does it :S
OP sapphire  22 | 1241  
31 Oct 2007 /  #85
i guess you have heard of smirting... smoking and flirting ..where people get together over a fag outside the pub.. well now there is smurking.. smoking and lurking.. where non-smokers join the smokers outside the pubs so they can chat up the talent... soon there will be no need for pubs. Everyone just go to the off licence and meet for drinks in the park, smoking or non smoking welcome.. oh sorry, Polish men already do that :)
jareck8  
31 Oct 2007 /  #86
i see large crowds these days.. but atleast smoking has reduced.. but drinikng increased... people should care for their health
Patrycja19  61 | 2679  
31 Oct 2007 /  #87
people should care for their health

I quit smoking a month and half ago and have been doing fine, although I had
two dreams where I smoked a ciggarette and I yelled at myself in the dreams lol

the smoking ban is moving across the world ..
szarlotka  8 | 2205  
31 Oct 2007 /  #88
I quit smoking a month and half ago

Good on you Patti
Patrycja19  61 | 2679  
31 Oct 2007 /  #89
*big grins* Thank you Szarlotka :))

Yes I feel a whole lot better :)

NO disrespect to others who smoke, but the feeling I had was that it was taking
over my life and I hated the fact that all I could do was worry about when my next
break was at work to have another ciggarette ( that extra nail in the coffin).

and now a days they put even more chemicals in the cigarettes so we dont quit
and make us more addicted.

I was ready.. it took more then once. its true, you really have to be ready.
RalphyCC  1 | 34  
31 Oct 2007 /  #90
Smoking is a big deal.
I've smoked on & off for all of my adult life, & I'm damned envious of anyone who has never smoked. If you've never smoked you will never crave nicotine, which is one of the most highly addictive drugs known to man.

I am a smoker even when not smoking; I still crave one occasionaly, & can start VERY easily.
If smoking were banned full stop, it might take a while for smokers to get over it but people would never become addicted again.
What d'yall think?

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