Smoking ban - will this be coming to Poland like other EU countries?

Move to the UK.. you will be able to go to as many smoke free pubs and night clubs as you choose. Otherwise, you need to lobby your government to change the law asap. In the meantime, I'm moving to your place :)

It might be difficult to pinpoint exactly whose smoke it was that caused your health problems.. perhaps some kind of smoke detector fitted to your body. But seriously if you are really that concerned about it, then yes I think you should stop going to clubs, as they are clearly bad for you.

You clearly don't realise what a pain it is for a non-smoker to live in a country where his/her rights are not observed.


That's what you call freedom of choice? I don't want such freedom!
Clubs are not bad for me. Cigarette smoke is bad for me. Smoking and clubbing shouldn't be inextricably intertwined!

Actually I do, I was a non smoker for many years and had to tolerate cigarette smoke in public place. Now I choose to smoke but cant go clubbing or to the pub and do so, so we are both being discriminated against. I am just trying to get you to see it from both sides.. thats all.

Haha! Maybe it's time for you to think about giving up smoking again? :)

Thats because your behaviour effects the health of others. If I enjoy juggling pint glasses it doesnt mean I should be allowed to do it in a crowded place.

Personally I think it worked well in Ireland. Being a smoker myself I must admit I enjoy going out to have a smoke as you always meet someone new to talk to. Although last time in Warsaw it was also good to just sit down and enjoy a cigarette with a pint.

The Pubculture in Ireland seems to be changing though. A lot of Pubs are now closing especially in the Town that I live in. One closed three weeks ago and four more are due to shut their doors within the next couple of weeks. Business simply isnt the same anymore. Whether or not that has something to with the smoking ban i do not know ........

yes i hope so, smoking is very bad, smelly too

it definitely does have something to do with the smoking ban. It is the same in my home town.. 5 out of 10 pubs have closed since the ban came in. It is bad for the pub trade (especially for those publicans who smoke, but can no longer do so in their own homes), which is why I think there should be a choice of smoking and non-smoking establishments. You antis can go and have a smoke free time and us grave dodgers can enjoy killing ourselves and those around us.

A few years back, Canadian govt increased taxes in cigs so that the price of 1 pack went up from $2.50 to $5.75 (avg). The amount of cigs smuggled in from the US skyrocketed and the feds started loosing money. They took the price down to under $2.50 after less than 6 months. Since then, Americans raised their smokes' tax significantly, so now a pack costs about $8.00.

According to Stats Canada, the cost of treatment of smoking related diseases costs about 30% of what the sales of cigs bring in to the federal revenue. So having a few smokers helps non-smokers too ;)

I cant actually see any difference in trade in the pubs near where I live, they have all got nice seating outside now with heaters and a couple of them had flat screens fitted outside so blokes can watch the footie, drink and smoke all at the same time, who said men cant multi task.....isn't that just heaven :-)..

I think pubs are closing down because people simply cannot afford to spend the money they used to, nice city bars will always do okay but local pubs will suffer because people dont have the expendable income and why spend £3.50 on a pint when you can get a x 4 pack from tesco for the same price!

now that sounds like a Polish mentality.. or at least the ones I know anyway.

Smokers are quit ignorant and often light up in places where it's not permited. Some a$$hole decided to light up on my bus yesterday. He wasn't very happy when I kicked him off in the middle of nowhere!

Quite right, smoking in buses is a big no-no. In Poland, u can smoke in bars but NOT buses.

I know even better option, no public funds at all for health problems of smokers caused by their behavior with full awarenesses of the consequences.

Talking about ignorant smokers hu? While were at it lets cut funds for the treatment of drug addicts too.

The smoking ban will slowly work it's way across Europe and the civilised world.
It is no longer civilised to poison us none smokers, if you yourself choose to smoke.
Sooner rather than later is preferable to me.

so are you suggesting those countries yet to ban smoking in public places are uncivilised?

I am suggesting that smokers aren't very civilised and that they are very selfish.
The fact they wish to poison none smokers like they do themselves, proves this.

Im suggesting most drunks aren't civilised, drinking has a lot more harm on society, so to be politically correct with the rest of the eco-warriors, i suggest banning alcohol.

Oh and sending vegetarians to the gallows.

I'm guessing you're a smoker :(

packet of fags in the UK are £6.00 now how much do you think of that is tax...trust me I pay for my health care twice over and practically funded the war in Iraq!

None smokers are such feking moaners!!!

You didn't read what I wrote.
Smokers do pay for their own health issues related to smoking by paying gobs of money in cig. taxes. Considering that those smoking related illnesses account for only 30%+ of the money smokers pour into the health system, the smokers should actually get better health coverage than non-smokers.

Well thats great for you, py for the NHS and then expect to hog it once you're spewing your guts up on a daily basis as your lungs drown in your own bodily fluids.

My father died like this, he smoked all his life.

I hope smokers have to pay private insurance, you take the risks knowing the facts are that not only is smoking likely to kill you, it passively kills others too.

See what I mean by selfish.

I'm all for private health care my friend :)

this is a very feeble arguement given the level of tax contributions smokers make throughout their (often shortened) life span.

whilst i dont often agree with dazza, in this case he is right.

a more sensible question might be to ask where the tax shortfall will be made up once tax revenue from ex-smokers decreases significantly

SMOKING BAN

Smoking ban?...didn't communism end in Poland?

Smoking ban is a public health issue and while smokers continue to poison not only themselves and the environment, but other innocent people too, the public ban is the correct thing to do.

Go kill yourselves in your own homes I say, if thats what you choose, but I don't want lung cancer from you guys.

erica are you happy to have your taxes substantially increased to make up for the shortfall in revene raised from smokers once they all give up?

Tax generated from cigarette sales far exceeds the cost of smoking to the NHS. Banning smoking outright would put more strain on the NHS, not least because of increased life expectancy. You are f*cking stupid if you can't grasp this concept. I'd also question how doing yourself harm through smoking can be viewed as selfish.


That seems like a fair point...

but then you consider that I like to walk out of my house/workplace without inhaling car exhaust fumes (far more toxic than cigarette fumes and infinitely higher in volume). I don't drive but I like walking down the street. Walking down the street isn't bad for me so why is it inextricably intertwined with inhaling car fumes?

Asthma is 20% more common in cities than in the country. This has nothing to do with smoking and everything to do with pollution, yet when the tax on petrol is raised or a congestion charge introduced, people are up in arms about it.

Ironically, many of these same people are the same anti-smoking Nazis who get on their high-horse and revel in their moral superiority. The hypocracy defies belief.

Despite this, I think a smoking ban in Poland would be a good thing, as long (of course) as non-smokers are either made liable for the shortfall in tax revenue, or are banned from driving their cars. Sound like a fair deal?

Taxes will always be found to fund what is essential.
Smokers are a drain on society, they have more sick days, more breaks per day, cause polution and rubbish and make people ill.