Homosexuals in Poland / Hands off (PETITION)

Na nie, he is a guy with no tolerance and stupid beliefs that date back to a time that was under the thumb.

I'm not intolerant. I have no problems with anyone being gay. The only thing I don't like is them thinking everyone is exactly like them then they try to impose it on others. The ones who have respect for other's choices...why would anyone mind? It's their business.

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Clearly this PC simpleton is talking about someone else.

So says the guy who thinks this is a condition!!!!!!!! hahaaha keep talking dude, this is priceless:)

If some are so keen on "educating" the world on gays, would that "education" include activities such as blow jobs? hand jobs? anal sex? vaginal sex?

Would there be "field trips" required? Practice at home? In the gym or in the washroom? Any group projects? Would groups be hetero or homo?

How would kids get a good grade? By blowing someone to climax in the shortest time or by "letting it in" without a lubricant?

In front of the class, or in the back room with the teacher?

What in case of a dispute? Would a student have to blow a head master? Or several members of an educational commission?

Would those a little behind with their gay studies be advised to practice their blow jobs with their parents? siblings? friends in the playground? Would there be after school self support groups?

And finally, would any gay qualify as a teacher, or would they have to have some formal education in the art of giving head and the other end?

I must say Dariusz u are well up with your gay sex.......:}

ok.... z_darius.... i've thought more about you.... but this you wrote is just below...
do you have a practical exercises in the regular sex education classes?
no...

why just don't make a discussion about homosexuality during the sex ed classes...?
it doesn't have to be such a big deal, but at least , mentioned...

It has been mentioned for centuries.

and in the far past it was more normal then it's right now...

It’s not normal and therefore shouldn’t be normalized.

Is that an argument?

In the "far past" women could not vote and were treated as property, and that was considered normal. In some countries still is.

How about that good ole' tradition? Would you like that to apply to you too?

you stated you position a while ago z_darius... which is ok, you're entitled to one, same as me...
and that's ok, you use examples which cannot be compared... that's your way...

Randal, you didn't state anything worthy attention here, beside whining that you don't like it this way... so don't waste your time, go and work on anti-homosexual-pill... good luck...

Of course they can be compared. The list of options.questions I proposed applies to any subject taught in school - field trips, group projects, help from family members. These are a vital part of educational process.

The only difference is in that post I concentrated on gay education which some long for.
OK, I may have forgotten to mention things such as cross dressing whatever the hell else it is that makes the gay day, but in essence my post was nothing but a comparison to usual educational techniques.

ok so how (where from) would you like your kids to learn about sex?
if from you, would you demonstrate them how blow job looks like? how to use a condom? and other you've mentioned...?

good point pgtx
I guess he is just really more interested in gay sex and likes to write about it.

Ah, just like you on every other topic.

OMG WTF is this????????

Some weird fantasy

Finally!
Thanks for calling the calls for gay education for what it really is. A perverted fantasy that some want to introduce to schools.

and you are writing the syllabus>~
very keen'

The syllabus has already been written
secure.rackham.umich.edu/academic_information/program_details/lesbian_gay_bisexual_transgender_and_queer_studies
In the University of Michigan.

An fragment of a course description:
ENGLISH 317. Literature and Culture.Section 002 - How to be Gay: Male Homosexuality and Initiation.

Credits: (3; 2 in the half-term).

Instructor(s): David M Halperin (halperin@umich.edu)

Course Description:

Just because you happen to be a gay man doesn't mean that you don't have to learn how to become one. Gay men do some of that learning on their own, but often we learn how to be gay from others, either because we look to them for instruction or because they simply tell us what they think we need to know, whether we ask for their advice or not.

...
In particular, we will examine a number of cultural artifacts and activities that seem to play a prominent role in learning how to be gay: Hollywood movies, grand opera, Broadway musicals, and other works of classical and popular music, as well as camp, diva-worship, drag, muscle culture, taste, style, and political activism. Are there a number of classically 'gay' works such that, despite changing tastes and generations, all gay men, of whatever class, race, or ethnicity, need to know them, in order to be gay?

Yup, you can get a certificate in queer studies.
General course description:

Graduate Certificate in Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, Queer (LGBTQ) Studies

Designed for students already enrolled in a terminal degree program at the University of Michigan, the Certificate in LGBTQ Studies consists of graduate course work totaling 15 credit hours. The Certificate, which can be combined with either a master's or doctoral degree, aims to:

# Provide an interdisciplinary analysis of the function of sexuality, and particularly sexual identity, in the construction of individuals, as a form of minority discourse, as a signifier of cultural representations, and as a site of power.

# Examine the processes by which sexual desires, identities, and practices are produced, represented, regulated, and resisted, in the U.S. and globally, both in the past and in the present.

# Address sexuality in a way that consistently demonstrates its interconnections to gender, race, ethnicity, and class.

oh don't! you're hurting my feelings!!!


i had a good laugh reading that...
but my question is still remaining unanswered...

See. That's the part I object to. Think about it what is that paragraph actually saying? Pretty messed up stuff...

You don't really need to teach people how to have sex. Somehow the skill hasn't been lost over the millenia. But if you need some consultation I'm sure there are plenty of fellas in Texas who will be more than helpful :)

The issue then is not of kids learning about sex. The issue is being "educated" about gay sex. I see no need for such education in mainstream educational systems beyond (what was mentioned before) a sentence or two about human rights and the need to understand those not quite mainstream. Gays themselves, it seems, know what to do without a minute in class devoted to the topic.


Actually, in a way I don't object to any of that stuff at a University level, although I do have a problem with a millitant approach of some prominent gay & lesbian profs. People are expected (or at least should be expected) to know what they're getting into. If they make a mistake... oh well they are fvcked (doggy style too).

What I object to is young minds (primary/secondary schools) being subjected to a potential confusion. If we need population control I don't believe homosexuality is the answer.

This is the paragraph I have a problem with. It epitomizes what I am talking about. A pushy agenda telling people they are gay.

well, i'm somehow disappointed...
anyway, carry on guys...
:)

It would be cool though if you did not attribute the quotes to me, as I am not the author of the text, but I rather quote others.

I am not for this whole queer education at this level of intensity, but again, so called adults make their choices. The course is not compulsory, although, sadly, financed by taxpayers.

And Im with you 200%

everything you pointed out was something I questioned and seeing it as a actual
class with credits on how to be gay for college bound adults.. I feel even stronger
at the concept of it staying out of the classroom with young children.


that is sad.. I for one had no idea this type of education was even offered at college
level.

I agree with first Grzegorz's post, agree with Randal, agree with Z-Darius.

Living in a gaytown meself, having gay friends I don't mind hanging out with 'em, meeting with 'em, LOVING 'em as friends, yet I do mind gay people forcing my children, and ANYBODY for that matter, to accept their way of being, marking the opposite as a homophobia.

On the same note, I don't appreciate muslims forcing everybody to convert, or jews forcing to teach every 2 yo about 'the most important' killing in human history.

Propaganda of bullshit.
I have my views, I have my beliefs - leave me fucking alone.

Absolutely!!