Homosexuals in Poland / Hands off (PETITION)

It's good to see that there are people in Poland who will stand up for free expression and peaceful assembly.

name calling just creates division, homesexuality is a behaviour type that is basically unatural, it may have existed from some time however it doesnt mean that its right, just the way tobaco is harmful its accepted, there are certain psychological, social and emotinal side effects of this behaviour, if there are any students on this forum and you have athens login then go to blackwell synergy, ingentaconnect and other dtabases with research type in anal sex then you will see the problems, i mean there are many many many many mnay, let me ask you this if this was an act that was accepted then how come a few years ago the people who engaged inthis ahd no fututre not becaue of society but ebcasue the world was not so advanced, the fact is that gay people male or female cannot have children - one crucial effect of sex is reproduction however pleasureable it may be,, now the counter argument is hetro's who cannot ahve children, the fact is before the hetro have sex there is a chance they will have sex but with the gay peopl there is no absoulte way.

guys dont be bad, or agreessive to people people can make choices,

the effects on children is unfair, what about children who see kids growing up with a mother and father, recently gay peopel can adopt and have surrogate but the poor child won thave this opportunity to say daddy and mummy

people should enjoy their life thats all we do these days, in the name of fun we have broken our boundaries, there is more to life, if you relaise soemhow what your objective is here then you will be more emotionally and physically happy

Homosexuality is not all about sex jareck8, like heterosexuality.
And if you care that much of human reproduction, then what about the heteros that don't want children even though they could. It's a choice, a way of life, another way of thinking, it's something different you have some difficulties to understand. I respect everybody's choices, if they don't hurt me, everything's okay. Everyone has the right to live his own life without being judged, i don't care if you decide to raise pigs in a farm tomorrow morning, if it's what you want, then why should i judge you ?... ;)

First of all, this is answer to a question I didn't ask.
Second, how can you compare homosexuality to plundered? Have you been "plundered" by any?

you are right, the freedom of choice, like me wantign to go chruch and bible class same like a person ahving a relationship with same sex,, the only thing with this is that there are certain side effects in the scoiety at large.

there are certain social, psychologucal, emotional problems e.g. break up of family, aids, hiv, disatisfied women (lesban sex) ok the other ones being a sames sex couple rasing childfren not able to give the man and woman thing etc etc.

now if we look at religion i know soem of you gys do not agree but i am a beleiver in god, i beleive god created us fro a reason and has advised us how to live, in bible and other religions there aer certain ways of living - they have some beenfit for human

al i am saying is that people should be free but in th elong run if it is detrimental for yourself and society then that is being inhumane to others.

human nature has certain force known as its desire this is to eat sleep have sex etc, we are inclined to fulfil our desires but at the same time they have problems if not done according to the laws of a supreme creator

Homosexuality is a very serious mental illness.

Oh.....so are you homosexual ?.... :D LoL

Seriously, why do you think that ??

it used to be classified

hwoeevr the reason we commit these sins is ebcasue we have no discipline, these are signs of the end,

let em expalin in religious terms, jesus is regarded as a spirit and the anti christ will be a material entity. the anti christ will encourage us humans to enjoy materialism to the extent that we forget all our human values and morals, look in the name of materialism we pay peopel 2 pennies in paksitan and sudan and ethiopa to make clothers for us for liek 1000% mark up rpice, we want to fulfil all desires, pepsi max live life to the max,

analyse ourselves as humans we have gone beyond the limits, life is not about consuming, look at teh life of jesus he contuned to struggle, he didnt eat sleep properly to teach us to discipline ourselves.. there are ebfits to this, in lent we fast, to contorl our desires, these are evry important..

I think most homosexuals would prefer a hands on petition meself like.

I prefer a hands on situation,as long its not with a minger :)

You think christianity is so perfect dont you ?

Well maybe you like to mention that some members of the clergy have been caught interfering and shagging young boys....maybe thats why the christian religion has such a hang up about it.

So why not wash the real dirty linin of christianity in public and demonstrate how eveil it can be to something it does not approve of.

Oh im christian im so perfect.

I seriously question a certain type of religion that indoctornates evil beliefs like this.

Maybe we need to reinstate the Berlin wall and leave some of you to brim and boil in your own hatred.

You are such an ignorant waste of sperm. If you are Polish, then go back to your little retarded village in the Tatras where cousins are also brothers and sisters and Papa is f****ing the cow because Mama is too Catholic to f**k anymore. Nearly all of the EU countries are accepting or tolerant of gays as citizens with equal rights... except Poland. You probably want sex with a man because the biggest homophobes like you are the closet ones.

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This is apparently taught in Polish education systems...I know many Poles who have told me this and they believe it wholeheartedly.

mirekk : In America ;)

Lukasz is in the USA? AHAHAHAHA...that makes his nonsense even funnier....

YEAH! Hands off of Poland!

Just understand the position of others, try and see where they are coming from. As I type, a homosexual act is taking place, quite probably in Poland. I'm not watching it tho and it doesn't concern me.

Go and look at Watt Vs Annan (sorry, can't remember the citation). I did this case way back in 1995, my first year in Law. It's a Scottish case which, at length, explores the public/private demarcation and the nature/role of consent.

I also did a lot of tolerance theory and its application. Check it out.

Homo tolerance has spoken... lol...

Religion as a barrier to social change, I feel like writing a paper for you Greg.

Have you ever been directly harmed by a homosexual man, Greg?

We may differ in the oppinion whether homosexuality is a mental disorder or not. In my oppinion it is.
Thereby for me a key role is whether they will be allowed to work as teachers.
First for I do not want them to teach my sons.
Second, I do not have any figures on that, but I have the impression pedophilism comes often with homosexuality.

I do not mind homosexuals to do what they do, but not in front of children eyes.

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As both are mental disorders - in my eyes - they tend to do I believe.


To be clear, not even holding hands or kissing.

What are you referring to, breathing? living? working?

be more specific.

No, I do not believe this, not even in your eyes.


I don't know, I am not young enough to know everything :)
Well to be clear, in Ireland you can not and never could, go in to a petrol station and see hard core porn on the selves.

Is that good?

The situation in polish petrol stations is the reason why the Pope gave us a chewing out in his visit after the iron courtain fell ;)

But I'm no hardcore catholic. Minors have no driving license and such have nothing left in petrol stations. And the 16teen years old with their motorynkas buying their 2stroke gas know that stuff allready. So given its hetro porn - let it be.

Pawian, where are you? Please, Matyjasz, PGTX, other reasonable Poles, step in and restore my faith in Polish intelligence.

Tomek, I'm not gonna insult you but what you wrote was offensive and just plain wrong. It's a caveman correlation. Read some Aryeh Neier, he did extensive research on this area. Because you see homosexuality as an aberration, you just assume that they are 'deviant across the board'. Sean referred to porn above. Neier wrote on this topic too. After extensive research, he found that those societies with an abundance of porn had lower rates of sexual crime. Now, I know that there are other factors but I'm trying to keep it simple.

The following is from an article on the issue.

'It is important to distinguish homosexuality directed towards adults from that directed towards underage children. This allows us to see that adult-orientated homosexuals are no more likely to become sexually involved with children than are heterosexuals.

Surveys have identified few paedophiles amongst homosexuals: Westwood (1960) found less than 3% claiming to be interested in young people sexually -- which is not the same as actual sexual contacts.

About 12% of Westwood's sample had had contact after 18 years of age with boys of 16 or younger.
Seventy-six per cent of the men said they would not engage in homosexual activities with anybody under 17,
and 6% said that they felt free to engage in sexual activities with a boy of any age.

Another study showed that nearly half of the men convicted of sexually molesting boys were actually married at the time (Gebhard et al., 1965); less than a third preferred children sexually to older people. Using measures of sexual arousal to different sets of pictures, it was discovered that although heterosexual men were sexually aroused by pictures of girls rather than by those of landscapes, homosexual men were no more aroused by pictures of boys than landscapes (Freund, 1963).

In short, just knowing the nature of an adult's sexual involvement with children says little or nothing about their orientation to adult men or women'.

Sorry Mods, I see now that I have quoted more than the prescribed maximum. I hardly do this so don't worry. It is relevant and essential to my point.

Forgive me, please ;)

What is the most common kind of pedophilia ? Not men raping boys ?

There are some nasty max hetro porn too ha ha ha

I was brought up in a very ignorant culture (Irish) as regards to sex, especially gays, paedophiles and anything else out of catholic wed lock.

They were all branded mad rapists or lesser people.
I have given this much thought and it is not true, of course some of you know this.

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I remember in Sligo several cases of "gay bashing", they killed one young man, kicked his head in to the pavement and seriously wounded others.

I always thought this was really strange.
The reasoning.
I am hetro,
You are gay,
I will kick your head in because you are gay and in so doing prove I am hetro.

This to me is a blatant form of closet case homosexual, to beat a guy to death to prove your not gay?. madness.

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I don't know but I would assume it would be hetro?
I mean if you are going to call all people who do not share your sexual orientation mad, do hetro rapists fit in to this category?

dsadevil.blogspot.com/2006/10/homosexuality-versus-pedophilia.html

Greg, have a gander at this