How much do you HATE POLISH PEOPLE and POLAND

here is a general explanation of what my idea is as it says its simple at the moment because i just haven't sat down for hours to properly write anything up. I would love a chance to work for the government and bring some ideas to the table, heck but who dosen't :)

I don't have a problem with the skilled Polish immigrants, ones with trades and that it just the unskilled ones who sweep up in warehouses am not sure am not sure about.

Stole your broom did they..?

i don't understand what this or who this is referring too??

All am saying is that unskilled Brits need jobs such as warehouse jobs and cleaning jobs, Polish immigrants who come to Britain and do such jobs are not really helping the country in any way

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Yes they are.. They are cleaning up warehouses..

forget it!

earlier on in this discussion, someoen said there was a manpower shortage in this country, don't know if it was you or not, but I guess this is the reason there is so much unemployment in this country. Anyway, to cut a long story short, there isn't enough unskilled jobs in Britain for Brits and Pols

but to be honest, those jobs that unskilled polish people do are the jobs that most of the brits won't cos they're too far up there own a*se. most brits would rather get handouts than sweep warehouse cos they know they'll get more.

I personally am not up my own a*se, and will take any job but like I said, there not enough to go round for Brits and Pols

Yes there are. Some people have been put in the position where they're better off not working and being paid for by people like me. Some people are too bone idle to work. I get satisfaction from having done a day's work, even if it's not the best day, or even the best job. How low is unemployment in the UK?

I do to. I rarely leave work feeling like I've not achieved anything.


If this were true, the Job Centre would be closed...

Mabe the ppl you think are too bone idle to work would actually love to work but can't get jobs coz they all been taken by immigrants

maybe you should try job hunting for yourself before you claim that the job centres are actually of some use to anybody

Of course there are many people who would love to work but can't for whatever reason.


Like I said before, the JC would be shut if there were no jobs.


I personally wouldn't use them to recruit if I thought they were of no use.

I never found a job in one.
I went a couple of times. They steered me towards benefits.
I went out and looked at places I thought I might like to work in.
I went to an agency that took me on, but got a decent job before long anyway.
I did not have any qualifications, I hasten to add.

I have never tried to find a job in one, I'll admit that. But I know people have found jobs there, and I took on two people last week who got our advert there.

It is true though, that there are many ways of finding jobs if you do not like the JC. Like Donkey says, there are agencies. Walking up a main street near my work today I saw three adverts in shops windows looking to recruit for inside that particular shop.

I was tempted to temporarily take a job in Whittards, a high street shop.
They sell nice coffee and also coffee machines (I need a new one).
Employees get quite a good discount.
They didn't tell me I had to be an immigrant.

I have also tried agencies and they are a waste of time most of the time because you see ads for jobs in papers or wherever and so you ring up about work and all you get is, "sorry mate, it a we got nothing at the moment" but yet they still continue to advertise even though there no work

Can I ask, have any one of you heard there is a man power shortage in the UK?

I know a few places that actually tell you that we only setting on Polish

There are jobs available.
Unemployment is low.

Well if there are jobs available, they only available to Polish, thats all I can say, don't know why you think unemployment is low, but its not true

Apparently there is a man power shortage but at the same time we have high unemployment - see what's wrong with that picture?

doesn't make much sense does it? I guess someone is lying coz we can't have both

Can you cite any sources for this?


Or ill-informed.


So is your problem with Poles who take the initiative to come here and work,
or with Britain for giving rise to a state of affairs you are not happy with.
Could the media have any involvement with people's opinions.
I pay very little attention to newspapers, especially the D***y M**l,
neither do I watch TV. I live life, experience the world through my own eyes, and I talk to people.
Your opinions don't seem to be the dominant ones in the UK that I see.

My problem is with the government for letting so many immigrants into the country when there not enough work for Brits, let alone half of Poland. And my problem is also with so many Poles coming over here to work, I mean why Pols? Why now? What's so wrong with Poland that half the population have come over here?

the only source I have is that almost all the work places in my area are either sacking Brits to set on Pols or have positions only available to Pols. Just seems a bit unfair to me that Brits are not allowed to work in their own country!

Ill-informed? What I am saying is that we can't have a man power shortage and also have an extremely high unemployment rate. Statistics show that unemployment is very high at this moment in time so I am thinking maybe there not a man power shortage

Evidently we can. There are shortages in many trades for example. Maybe you feel like picking up a trade?
We are short of nurses.

Many of the job available at the moment are unskilled positions such as kitchen porters, factory workers, chambermaids etc. British people are not going for these positions but a lot of them are being filled by immigrants. We can't complain of a shortage of jobs or Poles "stealing" them if we're not willing to take them ourselves.

have you looked at how many jobs there are available on monster/at the jobcentre...etc?

Were you around in the recession?

I refer of course to the economic recession in the 1980s.
The UK now has fairly low unemployment, interest rates and inflation.
The problems are more to do with wealth inequality - the gap between rich and poor.
The other problem is the high level of borrowing, but this does in fact keep the economy moving.

As an English guy living in Poland i have to say i love Polish people , thats why i live here....As for Poles taking English jobs , why not , this is the European union , Poles can take UK jobs , i can buy a farm in Poland.....All i can say to all the Poles heading for the UK is...work hard..save your money , then come back to Polska and spend your money here , buy a house , make a business , Poland has a great future...Sadly i think one day Poland will be just like England , so many Poles seem to think that Poland is so terrible and should be more like the UK....Be patient , one day it will be just the same , thankfully i will be dead by then....Be proud of your country...I am... Jan wildrover@op.pl

Thank you. I am proud of it too.

But what others see it different dimensions.

The people who are "well" in Poland - money wise - will not be complaining because it is a BEAUTIFUL and AMAZING and WONDERFUL place to be and then these people will never never leave it.

But the People who are "unwell" in Poland - money wise - will complain. Because, depending obviously on circumstances, but jobs are not so easy to get, and some things can seem overly expensive for these types of families.

Then the poorer families go to places like U.K, USA, Australia, Canada, etc - whatever, they tend to find they word less for more $$$. And so are thrilled by this, the country can even be a less beautiful and less amazing place, but they are feeling moer stable in their income therefore wish Poland to be like U.K, etc.

On other hand some of the richer families are of Polonia families moving back to Poland after some time/long time. Lots of these people were not born in Poland. So the knowledge they learn from other country, plus their traditional knowledge combined come as an advantage over some things (Sometimes it is a curse, as some people think they're so much better than everyone else if they are "not Polish" like the Polish - which is bit sad and silly).

The families from Polonia is Poland settle in Poland. And often open up new style businesses that Poland is being constantly introduced to new things - therefore once again able to make more money. (But this concept of "new style" also is possible for the ones who go overseas from Poland and return after even 2-5 years).

I think this is summary of why some Polish people complain about Poland and why others couldn't find a better place in the world.


** They work less** - for more $$

Are these just manual labor jobs? Do you have a masters degree? If not, maybe school will give you the qualifications for a higher paid job?

I agree, we can't complain if we aren't willing to do the jobs ourselves, but many of us including me are willing to do the s**t jobs but we can't seem to get on.

Haven't looked on Monster but like I said earlier, Job centre in my opinion is a waste of time, no help at all, advertise jobs that were filled weeks or even months ago

No wasn't around in recession, but I know for a fact that unemployment for Brits is very high at the moment

Yes they are the manual labor jobs, don't have any qualifications at the moment, doing a webmasters degree though so hopefully things will change for me soon.

Think what Poles don't seem to realize is that by coming over here in their thousands, they are making Britain the same for Brits as Poland is for struggling Poles IE we can't get jobs. By that I mean mainly unqualified Brits who have to do the s**t manual labor jobs