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Liza  3 | 111  
14 Nov 2007 /  #841
These are generally hosted for Polish people - flyers are in Polish!

And the English nights have English flyers...

Hmm you really shouldn't late nights and binge drinking is not good for the complexion :)

Ahh I wouldn't worry about my complexion - I'm still getting ID'd by bouncers and I'm hitting 30 shortly. Also I'm lucky if I have three drinks a week - I don't need alcohol to have a good time.

Ohhh that many, its strange how you would know an English person, you know living in England an all!

I know plenty of English people.. sometimes I'm the only foreigner in the group, sometimes they're the only English person in the group - I'm an equal opportunity friend.

Quoting: Liza
As for Walkabout bars, I can only comment on the Walkabouts I've been to over the past three years (Covent Garden, Wimbledon, Islington, Durham, Temple, Putney, Shep Bush, Shaftsbury Ave, Nottingham, Edinburgh and Wigan), and there were Australian staff in all, plus in several there were also Kiwi and South African staff.

Nothing like integrating into British society is there? :)

Eleven Australian bars in three years isn't bad to watch the rugby... Understandably there aren't many English pubs willing to open at 6am on a Saturday morning so I can watch a NZ / SA international rugby match.

But just to reassure you, last night we were in an English bar, the night before I had dinner in a Polish restaurant, on the weekend I had Italian for dinner, followed by a Kiwi pavlova for dessert, all cooked by my three English ex-housemates. I also managed to squeeze in celebrating Diwali, and last week also celebrated Bonfire Night.

Don't worry I'm happy to be multicultural... :-)

How would you know, you only one or two english people!

And just to reassure you further, I've just done a quick search through my mobile phone; 248 contacts, and about sixty are English, 25 Irish, 11 Scottish and two Welsh. Looks like I need to go to Wales to rebalance the odds a little. If it helps, only nine are Kiwis (living in the UK).
Yogibear  - | 40  
14 Nov 2007 /  #842
And just to reassure you further, I've just done a quick search through my mobile phone; 248 contacts, and about sixty are English, 25 Irish, 11 Scottish and two Welsh. Looks like I need to go to Wales to rebalance the odds a little. If it helps, only nine are Kiwis (living in the UK).

What about the other 138? ;-)
Liza  3 | 111  
14 Nov 2007 /  #843
My contribution towards New Zealand's relationship with all the other nationalities... I seem to be doing particularly well with furthering New Zealand's relationship with Poland

;-)
BubbaWoo  33 | 3502  
15 Nov 2007 /  #844
one of those days, huh?
UKGUY  3 | 87  
16 Nov 2007 /  #845
New Zealand has the right policy, only let in those with specific skills and no dependants. My town (of about 30,000) people is crawling with polish people. I think its a bit too much and I can't see why poles would think its wrong for British people to be worried about the relentless tides comming in. Nor do I see why they should think it is racist.
celinski  31 | 1258  
16 Nov 2007 /  #846
In USA I am respected for being a strong Polish lady. I think it all depends on the person and Hate is a strong word to begin with. I try not to hate anything...well maybe lima beans.
Liza  3 | 111  
17 Nov 2007 /  #847
My problem with the slant on anti-immigration is that it is primarily directed against the Poles and the other A8 countries. To me its relatively simple; would I want an immigrant that comes in, and gets a job, working hard, and is likely to return home, or do I want one that comes in, immediately claims for a benefit, usually suffering from poor health, and spends the next 60 years draining the system, having never done an honest days work in his life? The first description is most often a description of an EU immigrant. The second is not.
gosiaczek  1 | 85  
18 Nov 2007 /  #848
And what about English - French antagonism?(British - French? I'd like to know if Scots, Irish or Welsh hate French as much as Englis do) Generally, historical reasons are really important and it's the past experience that make us at least "reserved" toward other nations.
Crow  154 | 9331  
18 Nov 2007 /  #849
And what about English - French antagonism? (British - French? I'd like to know if Scots, Irish or Welsh hate French as much as Englis do)

Indeed. It was very sweet to see SNP make gains in Scottish elections too. UK without Scotland just isn`t viable. Scots finaly deflect from their masters loyal to Semitic ideological constructions (what i mean by that- for those who don`t know facts i would explain- English people is genetic and cultural mix of invading Romans and natives from islands and we know that Romans were, same as Greeks, genetic and cultural mix of Egyptians/Africans and native Europeans, ... Teutons were same mix of Romans, Chartaginians and Slavic natives- but most Germans are still just germanized/culturaly enslaved native/autohtonous Slavs- or even particulary Northern Serbs).

Or take Belgian antagonisms for example. Belgia as state going to oblivion...

Belgium slides deeper into crisis

b92.net/eng/news/world-article.php?yyyy=2007&mm=11&dd=08&nav_id=45227

8 November 2007 | 20:44 | Source: EuroNews

Flemish nationalist politician Jean-Marie Dedecker said: "It's an historic day for Flanders. We've finally imposed Flemish majority by saying the secession of Halle Vilvoorde has to happen."

France i won`t even comment with all their internal antagonisms as former colonial power. It`s obvious why they need Slavs- as spice in their mixture and that Borg is satisfy.

They are all worse (they are even uglier) then Poles and Slavs in general and they should look for their own sh** and stop to interfere in relations between Slavs. We- Slavs are crazy if we let that they prolongue their rule on us. We should escape from them, fast as we can... and, just offer them cooperation on distance.

Anyway, when things in Europe and World become realy ugly, Slavs would see that only Slavic Union can secure their existance and prosperity.

in that name i arising this glass of Czech bier and drink it to the end... and pres the Post Message button of one thread on Polishforums.com
szkotja2007  27 | 1497  
18 Nov 2007 /  #850
I'd like to know if Scots, Irish or Welsh hate French

Much is thought of the Auld Alliance with France.

It was very sweet to see SNP make gains in Scottish elections

Indeed it was very sweet to see the SNP win ! The SNP are all inclusive, if you are living in Scotland then you are part of our community - no matter where you have come from.
gosiaczek  1 | 85  
18 Nov 2007 /  #851
Much is thought of the Auld Alliance with France. URL

Right, a bit long:) but I see what you mean. For Scots not France but England was the opressor. (in fact I should have remembered it from my history lectures;p)
noimmigration  
18 Nov 2007 /  #852
My problem with the slant on anti-immigration is that it is primarily directed against the Poles and the other A8 countries. To me its relatively simple; would I want an immigrant that comes in, and gets a job, working hard, and is likely to return home, or do I want one that comes in, immediately claims for a benefit,

The answer is that we british do not want any immigrants coming into our country, how would you like poland to be swamped with hundreds of thousands of romanians and bulgarians. that is what it is like when we british are swamped by 600,000 poles. We dont want ANY immigrants in our country.

poles take 4 £ billion out of the economy and then send it to poland. They pay very little in tax as they get rebates if they have been in the uk for less than a year. the biritsh goverenment have had to spend quarter of a billion pounds to local councils t deal with the problem of polish migrants.

poles do NOT cntribute to the economy (migrationwatch), the uk thought only 40,000 poles would come when the figure is officially 600,000. But the real figure is close to 1,000,000.

we want poles to go home.
PinkJewel  
18 Nov 2007 /  #853
The answer is that we british do not want any immigrants coming into our country,

we want poles to go home.

Speak for yourself. As a British person, I don't have the quoted opinions. In fact, the opposite. In the past couple of years I have learned a great deal about another nation and made some superb friends.

Everyone is entitled to their opinions of course, but I am sick of reading that "every Brit" wants the Polish people to go home. There are some, disgruntled Brits who do but they do not represent the overall views of the British nation.
noimmigration  
18 Nov 2007 /  #854
thats not true pinkjewel according to public polls, the future stance on immigrant legislation by ALL political parties, independant monitering by non political organisations like migrant watch And the reactions of polish immigrant polls.

The FACT is that this IS the overall view of britian. Compare these statistics to irelands and you would be in for a surprise.
szkotja2007  27 | 1497  
18 Nov 2007 /  #855
The answer is that we british do not want any immigrants coming into our country,

I see in your profile you are from Glasgow. Scotland has a declining population. While the rest of the UK has a problem with immigration Scotland is actively encouraging it.

The FACT is that this IS the overall view of britian.

It is not the view of the democratically elected Scottish Government.
PinkJewel  
18 Nov 2007 /  #856
public polls,

Are you kidding me on? In these polls roughly 1000 or so people are asked. Generally they can be manipulated to reflect a result. For example; a poll on immigration, taken in a poorer area where unemployment is high. Regardless of that though, polls still ony reflect the views of a tiny amount of people. You can't get the feeling of the nations from 1000 people. Even if 10,000 people or 100,000 people were asked, it still wouldn't give an accurate view.

Yes the political parties are now taking the stance of changing the way we allow people into the country, mistakes were made and we were too welcoming but that still doesn't mean the entire nation wants the Polish people to go home.
osiol  55 | 3921  
18 Nov 2007 /  #857
The answer is that we british

WE British? YOU British, not ME British. I don't have a problem. You speak for yourself.
noimmigration  
18 Nov 2007 /  #858
pink jewel you obviousl,y live in cuckoo land with rainbows and fluffy clouds and animals that talk.

we dont want our declining population replaced with eastern europeans. now poland has a faster declining population because millions of them want to come to britain and clean the **** off our toilets.
osiol  55 | 3921  
18 Nov 2007 /  #859
eastern europeans. now poland has a faster declining population because millions of them want to come to britain and clean the **** off our toilets.

You clean the toilets then.
miranda  
18 Nov 2007 /  #860
we dont want our declining population replaced with eastern europeans. now poland has a faster declining population because millions of them want to come to britain and clean the **** off our toilets.

we have heard it before. I find that similar opinions are formed out of fear of the Other, the immigrant, the unknown - get to know some Polish people and than form an opinion.
PinkJewel  
18 Nov 2007 /  #861
Pink jewel you obviousl,y live in cuckoo land with rainbows and fluffy clouds and animals that talk.

Wow! Good comeback!

WE British? YOU British, not ME British. I don't have a problem. You speak for yourself.

Well said! I don't have a problem with people having an opinion, but when it's put forward as the opinion of the entire nation, that annoys me and then when our posts are countered with this;

because millions of them want to come to britain and clean the **** off our toilets.

I know exactly who I am dealing with.

I find that similar opinions are formed out of fear of the Other, the immigrant, the unknown - get to know some Polish people and than form an opinion.

Good point.
szkotja2007  27 | 1497  
18 Nov 2007 /  #862
You clean the toilets then.

He's still in school.

I get annoyed with myself sometimes for giving a response to this sort of ****.
Admin have a rule about posting only for translations, maybe they could have one for only posting racist crap.
PinkJewel  
18 Nov 2007 /  #863
I get annoyed with myself sometimes for giving a response to this sort of ****.

I get annoyed at myself too but I also can't see this crap being left unresponded. I just don't like people assuming that his opinions are that of the entire nations. One person only.
miranda  
18 Nov 2007 /  #864
maybe they could have one for only posting racist crap.

his name clearly gives away the purpose of his posts:), so lets have some fun with him:)
noimmigration  
18 Nov 2007 /  #865
I am a 23 year old university student not a schoolboy

polsih people should stick to their own like other slavs. They have nothing in common with us western and northern europeans.
szkotja2007  27 | 1497  
18 Nov 2007 /  #866
I am a 23 year old university student not a schoolboy

So if you aren't paying tax then why criticise those that are?
PinkJewel  
18 Nov 2007 /  #867
polsih people should stick to their own like other slavs. They have nothing in common with us western and northern europeans.

Oh it's all coming out now. Another one of YOUR opinions. I have a lot in common with the Polish people I am friends with.
noimmigration  
18 Nov 2007 /  #868
I work part time and I have paid tax since I was 16

my tax goes to house poles and educate their children
miranda  
18 Nov 2007 /  #869
my tax goes to house poles and educate their children

shouldn't you address the government with your concerns rather than people who are here because they have genuine interest in Poland?

THIS THREAD SHOULD BE CLOSED.
Polson  5 | 1767  
18 Nov 2007 /  #870
+ Poles who come to the UK are often offered a work there, that's why they move. And it benefits the UK, so stop weeping.

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