How much do you HATE POLISH PEOPLE and POLAND

I can't go anywhere, even if I wanted to. I'm working at A 814/Yorkhill Quay tomorrow. So any haters out there: you may hate me for a while longer, I don't mind if it makes you feel better.

My flatmate doesn't really know why he came here.
At first he was only going to stay for a few months.
After a short trip back home, he took up a full-time job.
Now he says he wants to stay here for the rest of his life.
Aaaargh!

I'll have to start charging him more money for the rent.

- Neither have I personally. The English are generally decent people (just as we Poles are). The creep isn't English though, but American. From what this creature scribbles (e.g. the nonsense about Poles being the most racist people and African roads being superior to ours), it seems it's also a special case of 'American' - an apparent member of a very odd and paranoid 'ethnick' bunch whom we Poles indeed aren't fond of, for totally valid reasons. There are decent Americans too, but, frankly speaking, I didn't have the good luck of hitting upon too many of them while in America. On this forum, the guy by the nick of Fish seems to be a very decent American, but he's a Native Indian, so perhaps that's to a large extent why. Oh, and there's also the person calling herself Amirah, and there's of course Shopgirl (who hasn't been heard from for some time now).

Sorry for calling you a 'child.' It breaks my heart to see somebody like you having to earn your living in foreign lands (however amicable they may be), instead of enjoying life in your own country. I really hope you will go back eventually!


- Well, so they aren't Polish already. And that's good - Poland will be free of this junk. There's junk in every nation, creatures that hate their own countries. Out with them; I don't feel any empathy with such bastards. Sorry, Lizzie, if this may sound harsh.

People don't want to go back to Poland is not good - similar to Romania - peasant econmoy based on agriculture.

I wouldn't say the Polish integrate as well as people from (for example) The Czech Republic or Hungary. They don't appear much to like the English and at times can be very critical of them; however its just a case they come to England becuase its a good economy and thats it.

- Another 'expert'?

Where did you take these revelations about Poland from? What is supposed to be 'peasant economy'? And can a 'peasant economy' be based on anything else but agriculture?

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- And based on what facts wouldn't you say so?
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PS. You are yourself from Romania, or Czech Republic, or Hungary, or any other place in that area, aren't you, 'UKGUY'?

Yes I'm from Romania. Sorry I know Poles don't like the Romanians lol!


Nothing against Polish people, but in my area, you rarely see a Polish person dating or marrying an English person, or generally interacting with them. Is it becuase Catholism does not allow this ?


Yes Poland and Romania have economies mostly based on agriculture as opposed to the much more advanced Czech R. and Hugnary with more industry and more skills.

- I thought so.

Are you talking about the advanced skills you lack? Why would you repeat some urban legends you heard in a pub? Why not do your own research before you reveal that you know about Poland aproximately... squat?

Here are facts:

GDP - composition by sector:
agriculture: 4.5%
industry: 31.7%
services: 63.8%

Labor force - by occupation:
agriculture: 16.1%
industry: 29%
services: 54.9%

Exports - commodities:
machinery and transport equipment 37.8%
intermediate manufactured goods 23.7%
miscellaneous manufactured goods 17.1%
food and live animals 7.6%

Does that look like peasant economy based mostly on agriculture?

- And where did you take these news from - about Poland, I mean? I thought that as early as under communism we started transforming from a war-wrecked mostly agricultural country into an industrialized one, with agriculture remaining an important part of the economy. So what are the alleged skills that the Czechs and Hungarians have in a greater number than the Poles?

The UK is approximately 14% Catholic. Catholicism is maintaining its numbers whereas other branches of Christianity are falling in numbers.

- Yeah, right. I remember your earlier posts too.


- Maybe they have dates and spouses already? Maybe they don't speak a good English and are shy because of that? Polish people in the UK are mostly temporary or guest workers. What would Catholicism have to do with the Poles allegedly not dating, not marrying, and not interacting with the English? How would Catholicism account for it? And how do you know that those alleged Polish folks in your area are all Catholics? Now are all, or even the majority of, Czechs and Hungarians in the UK dating, marrying and interacting with the English and does their religious faith (Catholicism?) have anything to do with that?

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Exactly right!

Z-darius, thanks for the stats.

UKGUY, don't take me wrong. I don't dislike you and your countrymen. I understand how you must feel - due to the media hate propaganda against Romanians. Yes, Poles and Romanians are kind of in the same boat.

It seems that you know all Polish people in England and all people from the Czech rep and Hungary. So, you announced to the world that the Polish don't integrate as well as Czechs or Hungarians.


Just watch British TV or read English press. You will find out how critical English are of Poland and Polish people. I read a lot of British newspapers and I have not seen a single article for a long time which would talk about Poland in a positive way. When English TV or press talks about Poland or Polish people it is ALMOST ALWAYS in a negative way. I really can't find justification for this kind of propaganda. Poland isn't really as backward as some people in the west would like to see it.

By the way, it's notable that almost every article on BBC's portal talking about polish agriculture must have a picture of "furmanka". Obviously, average English reader will draw worng conclusion from this kind fo propaganda.


No. UK and Ireland are among those few countries which opened their work market to the new Europe. So economy is not the ONLY reason.

I think given half the chance the Polish would like to intergrate more, but the 'We don't want you here' group are very vocal. Sure they're welcome to their opinion, but it does mean that the Polish can be quite cautious of British people, which is a shame as 99% of the British are good people. Its the negative who cause the division reinforced by the suspicions of two cultures that don't know each other. I hope though given the passage of time, that parts of Polish culture will become accepted in the UK, and in turn, the UK will benefit from having the Poles here.


I'm not sure where you are in the UK, UKGuy, but you are welcome to come and visit my friends in London... Several are dating English people, and many Kiwis, Australians and South Africas are dating Polish men and women. I also know several Polish in Ireland who are dating the Irish.

I think personally that the English are a tolerant lot, but are becoming more protective over their country, its hard to walk down the road and every other shop you see is a kabab shop or a indian takeaway or and then a new wave of immigrants come over and now Polish shops are popping up (ironically so there is one next to my fav jewish delli :) ) and then there is Polish nights in bars and clubs, hmmm thats not intergrating that's as a friend of mine (who's Polish) said is - "creating a little Poland" so you see divides will deepen because of some of what the media say and because Polish people are creating a little peice of home here in the UK...Just same as you have areas that are predominently asian, you will have areas that are predominently Polish...

sure no matter what country you go to in the world there is irish pubs. what is wrong with having the shops and nights in pubs. the english will never like the poles its simple they just like there own and thats it

utter tosh

You will find an Irish bar in most cities, this is correct - they are there to cater for tourists - not sure if you will find Irish staff behind the bar :)

Who said the English dont like the Polish, they have been living side by side for over 50 years.

People can't be positive or optimistic with Poland, when you see so many people leaving all the time.... You might not be laughing so much if the government put restrictioms on new arrivals next year. So "don't look a gift horse in the mouth!"

Yeah, it's kinda like me being negative about my home when I leave for work every morning.

Now, how many Brits left their country of birth? Germans? Italians? Spanish? French?
All because their countries are so very pessimistic?

the english dont like anyone only themselfs. they hate us to

I think that you lot are starting to sound very paranoid when it takes to integration. I did not make English friends because of the "we don't want you here" attitude displayed by locals (although I did experience some of it in Loughborough) nor because my hatred for all things English. Call me old fashioned but I make friends with people when it actually "clicks" between us. I'm not going to make friends by hard.

If you don't like this state of things than maybe you should think of a law that would force every new arrival to have a British friend provided by the state. That would certainly solve the problem. ;)


You don't have to be Polish to go for a Polish nigh to a pub. It's just polish themed. That's all. Nothing stands in the way for Brits joining in the party.

irishdeano. english people aren't all selfish like you're suggesting. In all cultures there will be the odd small minded person who only like people from their country or of their skin colour but the majority of people have no problem with foriegn people.I'm english and i have loads of Polish friends and i love my Irish family.

yes, and if they don't comply, turn them back to Poland (joking).

Screw them.

aww cheers, i would like to go back and finish uni, but im engaged to a Scottish guy and i dont wanna leave him, hes not too keen on moving to Poland either... i dont mind being here, and i can always visit Mom and Dad every few months ;)

And you have the same with the English setting up English theme bars in America, Australia and New Zealand. As Matyjasz said, just because it says 'Polish theme night' doesn't mean you can't walk through the door and join the party. I notice that there are plenty of English people frequenting Walkabout bars throughout the UK...

There are many tolerate British people - its just a shame the intolerate minority are so vocal while the tolerant are usually quiet.

Dont hate, appreciate ;)

why do we all have to be called racists these people were thrust upon a nation that was not both ready or big enough in size to hold these immigrants

we should have listened to enoch powell in 1968 then we would not be in this mess now does anyone agree