Army National Service in Poland

I do my shopping in Tesco and I see a lot of Polish workers who do their shopping in the same store. They work picking strawberries and apples on the farms. They are clearly those who failed their matura and those who would not survive two years national service and that is why they come to Guildord to do their shopping and to work. They look stupid and stand outside smoking. Clearly no modern army would want to take them as it would cost too much to 'put them straight'.

I wouldn't underestimate the significance of this. Mother Russia is slowly taking control of the hydrocarbons across Europe. One of the main problems of hydrocarbon extraction is getting them to their destination. With this exploration the pipeline would not have to cross any political boundries.

So great antarctic territory is appropriated by Argentina and Chile despite the complete irrecognition of this by nearly all Nations.
South American example reaches Arctis now.

Must be something peculiar to Guildford then because I've recently seen many Polish people now and they shop at Marks and Spencers ,Sainsbury's and Waitrose.......always knew it was more select around here :)

Mind you a lot of them do have degrees and very good jobs :)

Wondered why they came to the North West then rather than Guildford......must be a class thing I imagine ?

It would depend on the class of Pole. Those without money live on Tesco's own products.


Probably because they can not afford house prices in the South East.


Mind you, in Cumbria they would'nt even know the difference!

You may be surprised to hear but some areas of the North West are more expensive than the SOuth or South East.........

Lake District is nice.....I think............

But not as nice as where I live !!

Back to knocking the Polish people are you Michal.........

I ask again, why come onto Polish Forums......

because the Samaritans have barred his number. :)

Lol Hueg :)

Sh*it simply spoil the air sometimes...

Very true Gregorz,,,,,,,,,,

Wondered why Polish Forums had been so good over the last few days and how suddenly it had all changed again in the last few hours........that explains it........

I had felt the smell before I noticed "It".

.......that must have been a very interesting sensation then........:)

I am sorry but considering that I was in Poland possibly even before you were born, are you not a little bit condescending?

Said the guy who lives in the UK where is is no national service!

You're kinda reminding me of the guy off the Office now -

And by the way all my mums side were and are in the Royal Navy, by choice, we will never have national service in the UK again, we cant even aford the regular army we have so its not even a debate worth following!

Amathyst,

The point is that some 3/4 of regular armies in Europe and Russia is a budget vampirism. Some 3/4 exist not by necessity but by dependence of politicians upon military structures and militarist propaganda that is always stupid but the man in the street believes it

"Hello Dulux, how can I help?"
"My name's pot, i've just bought this kettle, can you colour match it for me?"
"Certainly sir, it's Cressida Black."

Exactly our family joins by choice and i hope your not suggesting that i would desert my own country if i was called upon. I would be the first to take up arms to defend the UK, i may be the first to die i might not but hell if i'm letting somebody invade this country.

The majority of states dissapeared not by foreign agression but buy internal plots and rebels. Do you know anything about British internal risks and will you be able to resist in such situation?

I think i know what you mean but i'm not sure, however threats from within, example, British Muslim Terrorists, one of the biggest threats we face today.

Secondly, the race wars, how long can the country stand back and watch Muslim terrorists bomb our country, soon there will be riots much worse than the ones at the moment against Asians. Alos the race war between the Asians and the Black population. This is believe it or not the biggest racial war and does not include 'whites' very ironic considering whites are supposed to be the worst racists :)

Civil unrest, how long can the nation stand being ripped off by our own government, taxes on fuel etc.

There are plenty of threats from within having plans in place to deal with them is essential but thats not my job although i have a few ideas of my own. However to put them on this forum would probably provoke attack :)

I didn't mean muslim terrorists. I think Ben Laden gains more from the exagerated reaction than from the actions by itself. Terrorists seem to be unable to be even compared with traffic accidents by victims. And medicals mistakes can kill many times more people. That is the reality

I didn't mean race wars. I can agree: it sounds funny.
I only remember a book written by Frederick Forsyth The Fourth Protocol.
I'm sure you read it.
Don't think I examine as serious the described by Forsyth attempt of some laborist partisans to come illegally to power. No, I tell you quite a different thing: Forsyth managed to show that each society is quite defenceless if it meets a well organized group all over the country.

Only wide public militia as in the past can cope with such organizations.
Now there is no danger. EU assures public stability in each Nation member. But nobody is sure it will be forever. And if such state militia isn't prepared beforehand it is always too late when such danger appears. No regular structures are able to cope with most strong dangers to the Nation. That is the rule described some 80 years ago following Russian Revolution. Only state militia.

That is my idea

I think talking about the Russian situation in line with Britain is the wrong way to go about it. Both countries are very very different and approach problems with different solutions.

The political, cultural and everyday issues in Russia are much different than those of the UK. and to judge the Uk on Russia's History would be a mistake, what works for one country might not work for another.

However i take your idea on board

Let us judge on English History. English revolution and King Charles murder. Let us be closer to today. Chartist movement and marxist-anarchist ideas. Who saved UK? Police? Regular Army? Who was the most initiative at Peterloo? Who was able to cope with 60 000 lumpens?

Did you forget that at the beginning of 19 century there was a special tax to support lumpens? Did you forget many poor people who worked hard were ruined by this tax and left for USA? Did you forget that aristocracy ruined them by the idea to make the life of inactive people better? Active candidats to middle class were sacrificed for beggers' good life. Nothing strange that irregulars, middle classers, not rich people, were so agressive at Peterloo.

And as to middle class victory in 19 century, that occured because middle classers were quite united and high class found it more easy to use them without special attention to lumpens.

What about today? Is that a foolish idea that Government takes money from active British people to support inactive? That is the beginning of future disaster.

As to Russia, nobody was able to imagine future even in 1916. communists composed some 0.05%.
No different states. Only militias are different. Russia in 1917 had none.
By the way, Frederick Forsyth didn't describe Russia. UK only

You really dont get it do you, Y O U are not forced to do 9 months in the service, which Im sure is not pleasant - Y O U are studying and if you felt so strongly about it why in the hell didn't you join up. As for all this die for my country rubbish, no man wants to die or at least no man with half brain cell. Its easy to say when you are not in that position!

Its actually a god send you havent joined up because its all about survival and people with your "gung hoe" attitude usually get other poeple killed!

Couldn't have put it better myself

Sounds like a bit of a rant, its pathetic and ridiculous that you feel, so strongly apparently, but i wouldn't care if i had to do nine months, wow big deal. You think i'm gung ho well thats just a guess, you don't know the last thing about me. My opinion does not make me gung ho, for your information i'm a bit more about other people than myself. Of course people don't want to die but i'd rather go down fighting than speak for example german for the rest of my life!!!!

I don't mind people having a go in fact i invite it really because it just shows how wide of the mark you are. and as for you ***** cat well just another of the sheep in this forum :)

maybe you should change your pic :)

That's a bit extreme. Couldn't you just take history or woodwork at school instead? :)

yeah maybe but only after the german lessons, LOL :)

When I agree with Amathyst, but disagree with you I'm a sheep?

You seem to give out an awful lot of advice to people for one so young.

It's a pity you can't recieve as well as you transmit.

Actually Daisy i apologise for my fast comment, i was a bit angry when i was typing that, so i totally withdraw my statement about you being a sheep.

Stay as a cat :)

I'll keep up the receiving practice, maybe you could help me, lol :)

Apology accepted, trying counting to 10 and thinking before you type