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Why are Polish people so ruthless?


Seanus 15 | 19,706  
5 Dec 2009 /  #31
That's what he has encountered so far, TM. He got good deeds thrown back at him and I can't understand why many people are taking issue with him. Some snotty little girl dished the dirt on him and he has suffered. Why the harsh line?
JustysiaS 13 | 2,240  
5 Dec 2009 /  #32
Hmm... maybe you are just a damn twat ?

this comment sure says a lot about you. you're an insensitive jerk and those "signature" one liners of yours are pathetic, especially this one. a guy helps people out with jobs and as soon as they get settled they pretend they don't know him, how does this make him a twat?? tell me, how would you feel if you've gone out of your way to help someone and then got dissed because they can't think of another way they could use you? you're probably just like those Poles who manipulated AnglikMan and now call him names and make up stories to justify their rude behaviour. if you haven't got anything constructive to add, put a sock in it.

However what if they really need my help and I don't give it? That would be worse.

maybe you should retire as the resident fairy godmother and let all those crafty immigrants sort out their problems themselves?
time means 5 | 1,310  
5 Dec 2009 /  #33
retire as the resident fairy godmother

Good point and come back as the all new arse kicking take no **** Anglikman.
ShawnH 8 | 1,507  
5 Dec 2009 /  #34
I always want to know the relationship status of sb so that I don't tread on toes.

Especially your wife's toes.
ShortHairThug - | 1,103  
5 Dec 2009 /  #35
Why the harsh line?

Because some people don’t know when to let go. If he did not know she had a boyfriend fine no harm in trying, but once he found out he probably couldn’t let go still making advances so he’s perceived as some sort of a pervert. You can’t expect her friends to treat the whole situation as nothing happened. There’s more to this story than meets the eye.
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
5 Dec 2009 /  #36
You are second guessing a person and that's not fair. You can't join the dots when you don't know how. Many don't declare their status and that is lame.
time means 5 | 1,310  
5 Dec 2009 /  #37
There’s more to this story than meets the eye.

True.

I fell in love with a Polish colleague so deeply that I took it upon myself to learn the language

Maybe they view him as the works wierdo/perv.
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
5 Dec 2009 /  #38
Why would he be a weirdo for being interested in a woman? Opposites attract!
ShortHairThug - | 1,103  
5 Dec 2009 /  #39
You can't join the dots when you don't know how.

Yet he's joining the dots. Why would all her friends turn against him? There's a reason, he just skipped the details. It's her friends that shun him, the question is WHY?
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
5 Dec 2009 /  #40
No, some women have funny turns like that. They get guilty for having played the field against their boyfriend and then shun the other before it is too late. Let's ask him for more details then.
JustysiaS 13 | 2,240  
5 Dec 2009 /  #41
Maybe they view him as the works wierdo/perv.

maybe she was leading him on like they do, you know the type, saying she doesn't love her bf etc. and that she wants to leave him. how many times have you heard the same story? then she suddenly decides she'll stick to her bf and erases this guy from her life like he was never even there. we can only assume and i'm quite surprised you guys stand on the girl's side for a change!
time means 5 | 1,310  
5 Dec 2009 /  #42
Why would he be a weirdo for being interested in a woman

Like sht says it's the friends that view him as such, maybe she told a pack of lies about him hence their view of him. Damm you ruthless Poles.

WHY?

Let's ask him for more details then.

I think he has left a bit out.
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
5 Dec 2009 /  #43
I was just gonna say, Justy. It's fairly common for some to do that. Get close to another guy and then the BF pops up. Very sad!

We just don't know but spreading lies is not alien to most cultures.
time means 5 | 1,310  
5 Dec 2009 /  #44
we can only assume and i'm quite surprised you guys stand on the girl's side for a change!

We are reserving judgment untill we get more info, there is more to this than meets the eye!
ShortHairThug - | 1,103  
5 Dec 2009 /  #45
maybe she was leading him on like they do, you know the type, saying she doesn't love her bf etc.

True, but once you figure it out you take it like a man. You win some you loose some. You just don't hang around and blame the world.
time means 5 | 1,310  
5 Dec 2009 /  #46
And he has not seen her for almost a year and still they shun him.

I think he needs to have it out with them once and for all!
PlasticPole 7 | 2,649  
5 Dec 2009 /  #47
Most likely yes, they will treat me like dirt after I have helped them.

I'm not really sure what's going on. Sometimes, people don't want to like someone just because they did nice things for them. They feel like you are being nice to them just to weasle something out of them and they don't want to reciprocate. It's just part of life. Some people want to be friends, while others do not.
SzwedwPolsce 11 | 1,595  
5 Dec 2009 /  #48
Usually everybody benefits from being kind and nice. But there must be a balance, or else you will be used.

Be kind! But never let people (ab)use you! If you suspect people just use you, you have to act immediately. Or else people will think you are one of the persons that they can use for their own purposes as they wish.

Practice this very important balance.
OP AnglikMan 1 | 7  
5 Dec 2009 /  #49
Yet he's joining the dots. Why would all her friends turn against him? There's a reason, he just skipped the details. It's her friends that shun him, the question is WHY?

Shorthairthug your comment has an easy answer - if you read my original thread I said one Pole out of all of them is still talking to me, the funny thing is that that one person who is still speaking, was her best and most trusted friend here before she moved back to Poland.

I think I've made my point.

Seanus and Justysias thank you very much again for your kind support!
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
5 Dec 2009 /  #50
That's cool. I know how such girls can be. They are a waste of space!
SeanBM 35 | 5,808  
5 Dec 2009 /  #51
I think I've made my point.

What was your point?
That there is some 'Polish gene' that makes Polish people ungrateful, ruthless and rude?

You are preaching to the wrong person here.
Sure there are some asses, as in every group of people but you live with your blinkers on.

Have you found out why all the Polish you work with bare one, will not talk to you?

I find that kind of behaviour strange/rude in an individual but in a whole group of people!! There is something you have missed or are just not willing to tell us.

Why did you come on here in the first place? to get empathy? sympathy? to have other people bad mouth Poles?, while saying what a nice guy you are?

Maybe you are a nice guy but as I said, you either do not know the full story or are not giving us all the facts.
joepilsudski 26 | 1,389  
5 Dec 2009 /  #52
Why are Polish people so ruthless?

Because we are children of Satan, and have no respect for humanity, witness us helping the Nazis slaughter 60,000,000 Jews just for the fun of it.

Seriously, Polish people ruthless?...C'MON!!!...Stubborn, yes...Extremely conservative?...In many cases...Hold a grudge?...Could be...But RUTHLESS?...I have never met a ruthless Pole or Polish American...Pig headed?...Well...
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
5 Dec 2009 /  #53
Don't you think that Polish Americans tend to be a bit different, Joe? American culture has the great capacity for changing people of any background. Maybe you haven't met the type yet but some Poles can be ruthless. I wouldn't see it as a stereotypical trait though.
joepilsudski 26 | 1,389  
6 Dec 2009 /  #54
Well, I'm sure some are quite 'ruthless', the criminal types...I just thought the poster was being a bit extreme.

Now, Polish Americans are quite everything I mentioned...I haven't met the 'throat cutter' type in my 50+ years.

The new immigrant Poles I meet are for the most part extremely intelligent, quite modest and friendly...But I'm sure they have problems as we all do...Hate to sound 'cliche' but it's true.
scrappleton - | 830  
6 Dec 2009 /  #55
Well, give examples of the 'ruthless' aspects of Poles. Pole-Ams are not like that. The rest of the things Joe P listed are true though.
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
6 Dec 2009 /  #56
They are not that ruthless here either. At least, it's not visible. You can find instances in business but it tends to be those that earn a lot. The same in many countries. They just know how to stay afloat and that's not being ruthless.
Ksysia 25 | 430  
6 Dec 2009 /  #57
Hold on ppl, we have another fact here - the object of the poster's platonic? love moved back to Poland. I thought from the first post that her boyfriend was jealous? Is that supposed to mean that a Polish woman in some obedience fad suddenly quit a job because her bf told her to? That bit just does not sound plausible.

Are you the Timmy type, AnglikMan? Timmy from my work is always very helpful, if I speak to someone about finding the route to somewhere, he hands me a map print out. If I walk past him, his eyes are always there to meet mine etc. He might think he's helpful, but I'm tired of Timmy listening to my conversations with other people. Was that anything along that line?

And that does not explain why did she move to Poland - unless you want to say that you trampled on her.

And that does not explain what does the rest of Poles do in the story?

And what is her best friend doing? Is she acting normal or chatting you up?
szkotja2007 27 | 1,499  
6 Dec 2009 /  #58
I have often given them more help than people of other nationalities. I have given them jobs within the company I work for, have helped them beyond the call of my duty as a mere administrator by helping them in their personal lives at zero personal gain to myself - only because I genuinely like being kind to them.

You have no idea how patronising this sounds.

I fell in love with a Polish colleague so deeply

Thats great.

However I never did anything wrong,

You are a star !

her boyfriend

Hold up ! She got a boyfriend ?

totally beyond my calling

And just wtf is your calling ?

Here is some amateur Psychology for ya - you are perfectly comfortable with helping these poor,poor people as long as the power balance lies with you.

The minute there is a shift in this balance - you dont like it.

And dont try it on with anyone at the Christmas Party, they have you sussed.
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
6 Dec 2009 /  #59
He simply meant that he had no obligation to help, Szkotja. I didn't interpret it as patronising at all. Many don't admit to having one and that is childish. Letting people know where they stand is important in most walks of life. Life as a contract, life as disseminating relevant info to others.

Like him, I was an administrator and he'll tell you that that isn't a high rank. He was just in a position to help and look what happened.
OP AnglikMan 1 | 7  
6 Dec 2009 /  #60
Ksysia you have made so many incorrect assumptions in your post that it is not even worth me beginning to start with how wrong you are in your response.

Szkotja you too are also misinterpreting things.

Seanus is absolutely spot on - Administrator is not a high rank, I am no more important than the average person.

It is simply that the position I have gives me more ability to help the people working there. I am able to give jobs, push for payrises for people, mediate between the manager and staff to a certain extent, grant annual leave, change people's working hours etc. This the Polish people have gained from brilliantly in my humble view. More so than they would have if I was an administrator who speaks no Polish with no interest in Polish culture. As I said before though, I have helped them an awful lot in their personal lives when I could just simply politely say I don't have time. In any case, Szkotja I am not asking for thanks, I do not consider that the Polish people owe me anything. I am just expressing disappoitment at their horrible behaviour towards me which is particularly sad when I think about the things I have done for them.

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