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What do Poles think of Chinese products?


Beyondtel 1 | 7  
14 Jun 2007 /  #1
Dear All.

I am James from China. My company is the voip prodcut manufacture in China. And we realy would like to develop Poland market. For we think Poland and China are in very good relationship and good friendship.

But also I heared of something that people in polish is not interested in Chinese goods. Think they are not in good quality. Is it really? I hope we can have the misunderstanding cleared here. At least, Not all the chinese product in poor quality. Why not have us the chance to clear the truth?

my msn is happy-tom@hotmail. Glad to communication with you
slwkk 2 | 228  
14 Jun 2007 /  #2
Think they are not in good quality. Is it really?

The thing is there is thousands of products manufactured in China all over the world... I think that most things that typical European/American own were made in China. So... when even a few things are low quality and someone see that they were made in China she/he thinks that your products are not worth spending money on. So the real problem is quantity of Chinese products ... they're just everywhere. My 0,03$....
szarlotka 8 | 2,209  
14 Jun 2007 /  #3
My company is the voip prodcut manufacture in China.

And you use a hotmail msn account? Hmm
BubbaWoo 33 | 3,510  
14 Jun 2007 /  #4
standard practice in china szarlotka... they dont seem to realise it destroys all credibility...
szarlotka 8 | 2,209  
14 Jun 2007 /  #5
standard practice in china szarlotka...

Hey I've learned something new. I've never done business in China so thanks for that.
slwkk 2 | 228  
14 Jun 2007 /  #6
And you use a hotmail msn account? Hmm

What's wrong with that? Some Polish companies use Gadu-Gadu to contact with customers... it's especially often seen on Allegro where they sell their goods. btw, I have nothing to do with them, but in this case at least they have web site beyondtel.com
away guy 10 | 343  
14 Jun 2007 /  #7
What's wrong with that?

I agree , im a dealer and trades man , i use a hotmail account too, and im no scammer :-)
BubbaWoo 33 | 3,510  
14 Jun 2007 /  #8
it will damage your credibility - and gadu gadu isnt the same
szarlotka 8 | 2,209  
14 Jun 2007 /  #9
What's wrong with that?

How about a lot of corporate firewalls blocking the use of hotmail to stop their employees spending all day nattering to their mates. Maybe not where you are but in a lot of UK comapnies you cannot get out! Plus it's not perceived as being vet professional over here.
slwkk 2 | 228  
14 Jun 2007 /  #10
I agree , im a dealer and trades man , i use a hotmail account too, and im no scammer :-)

Yeah, companies just use things which people uses .... another example - skype, plenty of companies use it to communicate with clients.
BubbaWoo 33 | 3,510  
14 Jun 2007 /  #11
using a generic email account and wanting to appear anything more than a very small operation is not a wise move... if you are part of a larger company, as the OP is claiming, why doesnt he have a company email

using skype etc is totally different slwkk
slwkk 2 | 228  
14 Jun 2007 /  #12
it will damage your credibility - and gadu gadu isnt the same

I know that using for example yahoo/hotmail mail account instead of one in company domain is sth unproffessional, but using IMs I wouldn't consider as a bad practice.

btw, msn and gadu-gadu are IMs, a bit different, but still IMs.... so why company using gadu-gadu is ok, and one which use msn isn't

How about a lot of corporate firewalls blocking the use of hotmail to stop their employees spending all day nattering to their mates.

Well, in some cases there is sales department and salesmans should have full access needed to communicate with other companies, including IMs.

using a generic email account and wanting to appear anything more than a very small operation is not a wise move... if you are part of a larger company, as the OP is claiming, why doesnt he have a company email

Bubba, he has proff email, take a look at it.

I think that in this topic he gives msn just because he want to talk on IM...
BubbaWoo 33 | 3,510  
14 Jun 2007 /  #13
i dont consider using IMs as bad practice, they are valuable communication tools, but very few companies will use a generic IM system to communicate with their clients
OP Beyondtel 1 | 7  
18 Jun 2007 /  #14
Thanks for your replies here. In fact it is common in China don't use the hotmail as the msn account. For it is ok. I think you can have a try. I am sorry make you think it is the scammer. But I think deed is the most important. How do you think of this?

Dear friends.

Thanks very much for your prize here. Thanks Swlkk. You help me a lot here.

Yes, Just as Mr Swlkk mentioned here. Here it is not the former business offer. So I don't think it is necessary to have my company's business email address here. Here I just would like to communicate with my friends to know how do you think of Chinese goods.

Here is my business offer: polishforums.com/voip_products_china_looking-14_10521_0.html. And my business email is james beyondtel. My product is the usb phone and Ip phone. Thanks
magda09 1 | 54  
18 Jun 2007 /  #15
Some Polish companies use Gadu-Gadu to contact with customers

must be a polish customer :) :D
Justyna69  
18 Jun 2007 /  #16
I am James from China

Hi James. I like chinese food. Please open up some restaurant near by Mikolajki / Masurian Lakes :-)
magda09 1 | 54  
18 Jun 2007 /  #17
Justyna69

maybe then he will need a polish girl :D, as i see most do here :). I am polish, but you are younger ;) , you think polish GIRLS would prefer chinese men?
ola123  
18 Jun 2007 /  #18
Chinese products in Poland have opinion of low quality and cheap products. High earners dont buy Chinese products too often but a lot of other earners do. The most known are Chinese t-shirts, which you can throw away after 2 weeks :). That is common opinion but truth lies probably imho somewhere else. There are for sure quality Chinese products. Good luck.
away guy 10 | 343  
18 Jun 2007 /  #19
we all think that chinese products are shittt but if we look around at our belongings such as pc'c,cell phone and all our electric things with good firm names nearly all come from China so i dont have a problem..
Wroclaw 44 | 5,386  
18 Jun 2007 /  #20
The Chinese are able to produce a cheap product with acceptable quality. They can ship it to Poland and still undercut Polish manufacturers. The Chinese are putting some Polish workers on the dole and causing some small businesses to collapse.

I for one can do without you.
OP Beyondtel 1 | 7  
19 Jun 2007 /  #21
Dear All.

Thanks for your opinion on Chinese product. But why not we talk about the reason? At first I would like to clear that there are many many cost-effective products. But also some of them are poor quality. So why not talk about the reason for the low quality? I know some merchant is not good business man, They made chinese products in bad reputation.

So I would like to know, When you hear of made in China. You just think it is very low end? and then will charge very very low price and take them as copy?

I think there is bad circle. For you charge low price. The merchant to make profit, So he will make the cargo in poor quality. Then you think you are cheated, And then you charge lower price, And then poorer quality. and again again.

but i know many of business man really charged in good price, But still get the poor quality products. And some of chinese merchants are not true businessman. They made chinese product in bad reputation.

The Chinese are able to produce a cheap product with acceptable quality. They can ship it to Poland and still undercut Polish manufacturers. The Chinese are putting some Polish workers on the dole and causing some small businesses to collapse.

I for one can do without you.

Thanks very much for your kindly comments

Hi James. I like chinese food. Please open up some restaurant near by Mikolajki / Masurian Lakes :-)

But I am still in China. But really I am good at cooking. When you are in China. I am really glad to invite you to enjoy tradditional Chinese food.
Justyna69  
19 Jun 2007 /  #22
you think polish GIRLS would prefer chinese men?

I can't speak for Polish women. I don't have any preferences as far as the origin of my potential partner but I'm not "looking" anyway :-)

When you are in China. I am really glad to invite you to enjoy tradditional Chinese food.

Thank you for your invitation and kindness. :-)
reksan  
19 Jun 2007 /  #23
I am Polish from Australia - almost everything on our markets is made in China, I have no complains, the quality is very good, we did have period of a real junk coming from China and Japan, but it emproved about 10years ago, and now it is impossible to find many products made in Australia. I think Poland as the new market for chinese business is being fladed by unsalebles from beginers producers, but they will have to do better than that to stay on. By the way Beyondtel I still can not get over "Wild Swans".
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163  
19 Jun 2007 /  #24
China OK, but you should finally kick out the commies.
singleren 2 | 9  
19 Jun 2007 /  #25
oh, I am a Chinsee student in Finland, but I have a Polsih girl friend. That's the reason, I go to Poland quite often. I went to many countries in midle, east Europe and I saw many shop sell Chinese product and many people buy them. From my view, most of Chinese products in Europe are poor quality. People buy them because of the price.
beckski 12 | 1,617  
20 Jun 2007 /  #26
My company is the voip prodcut manufacture in China

Hello James,

What type of rare specialty products does your company manufacture?
Patrycja19 63 | 2,699  
20 Jun 2007 /  #27
Think they are not in good quality

first of all, its all past news , but still some bad thoughts on it about the dog food for
one.. I know alot of people who lost their pets to this.. so when your talking poor
Quality, of course, because it entered the food chain for one!!! thats bad business!

I know it wasnt you directly, but it did affect my thoughts.. I am extremely leary
now.. I have had other products such as radios which look good, but you take
it out of the box and it doesnt even work,, this is dissapointing to young children
when they get something and its broken, and it wasnt the shipping/handeling
but the manufacturer which was a company in China! so now I spend more for
Quality for sure..

as for the toothpaste.. I guess I will leave that one alone, but put it this way, when
it comes to hygene, I dont settle for less.. I believe in spending and saving, but
I have lost my trust in certain areas when it comes to a product..
No offense to China or disrespect, I am sure that they will move past these recent
incidents which scarred the industry.
PeterJeff  
22 Jun 2007 /  #28
"we did have period of a real junk coming from China and Japan"

You must mean from the 60's. Yet even the worst 50/60's Japanese junk was
like gold compared to Polish products right until the 90's. I've found Japanese
quality since the 80's to be the best in the world on average, better then
European and better than Aussie junk. I still have Made in Japan AV equipment which works, manufactured
in the early 80's. :) Chinese stuff is improving too, as they're the world's factory nowadays. I'm Polish btw.
magda09 1 | 54  
23 Jun 2007 /  #29
I think Japan products are very good quality products! No doubt is there from my side too :). But china...i do not know yet :)
OP Beyondtel 1 | 7  
25 Jun 2007 /  #30
Sorry I can not get the wild swans either. Will you have me more information? Thanks

Hello James,

What type of rare specialty products does your company manufacture?

Hi Beckski. I have sent you my company information by mail. Please check. Thanks

oh, I am a Chinsee student in Finland

Glad to meet citizen here. I am from Jiang xi. And you? And will you please have me some website that finlands visit commonly? Thanks. I mean the website something like this forums.

as for the toothpaste

To Partycja19. I am sorry for the news about Chinese food. But to be honest always my country sells the better quality products to abroad. And I think there is something wrong with my government's management. Also the company is something too greedy. But anyway I think most of chinese products are safe. And they are good quality.

I am really sorry for the chinese food sercurity again here. Though I am not government officer here

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