You do realize that by saying what you say in the way you say it these Poles, as you call them, are not losing out – it is you who are showing yourself up. Admit it. You weren’t careful.
"Losing out?" Not to dignify your ad hominem remarks, but only to clarify: I am not disparaging Polish people, either particular ones or generally. I merely made an observation and connected it to things I've read and heard more than once. The taking of the benefit of the doubt, by itself, given the complexity of human affairs, can be construed as neutral – at least if I give them the benefit of the doubt, ahem. The bullsh** that my rent was 'hidden' in the taxes can’t.
But since youve opened the adhom door, your negative interpretation of my post is itself consistent with a pattern of defensiveness I've witnessed here. You twist what I’ve written into this ‘attack,’ using a passive aggressive figure of speech in the bargain, in order then to serve up your own criticism, which is a banal and tendentious charge that only reiterates the most obvious upshot of my original question. YES, obviously, How F&$%# “careful” does one have to be around these folks?
If it's convenient to cite meticulousness, they cite it, and if it's convenient not to BE meticulous, they aren't. Certainly I've noticed very little of anything like ACTUAL meticulousness. Krauts they ain't. It all bespeaks a profound paucity of generosity of spirit, when it doesn’t just seem outright boorish, or just sad. (This is not to be confused with material generosity, SOME of which I HAVE seen here)
Consider it this way: you are casting aspersions on a whole nation because of one and I underline “one” bad experience with them.
Consider it this way: the original post was a sincere question about penalties, not a veiled excuse for launching a polemic against an entire nation – though naturally, umm, I mean culturally, you found a way to make it that. As a matter of fact, I’ve been here for months, not minutes, and I have had 100s of recountable experiences which are ripe for the classifying. I didn’t fancy this the occasion to carry that out.
I am not at all surprised to have found patterns and convergences with things I’ve read and heard previous to arriving. I know I didn’t arrive with an ax to grind, and I guess my professional anthropological training (ABD) qualifies me, aside from my personal qualities, better than most to make accurate analytical distinctions, and draw reasonable if tentative conclusions.
More than in the States or even Sweden, where I've already seen some of this and have also lived for months, people in this corner of Poland seem to react to things as if they were already guilty. I mean, I’ve heard all about the pervasive low self esteem and inferiority complex. I had no reason to believe any of it. But since coming here, I do see how such a reputation might have evolved.
But to be fair, it all comes out only perhaps in contact with the likes of me, so I’m in that sense as much to blame for it as they are. How’s that for giving the benefit of the doubt. On the other hand, if any of these yo-yo’s who eagerly accepted my email address expect anything like the kind of help I didn’t get here when they come California a-knockin’, they better check their collective golonka at the door, and at least read some Emerson, or geeze at LEAST Ayn Rand before they get here! I'd have thought they'd heard that if you go carryin’ pictures of Chairman Mao, you ain't gonna... well, you know.
You talk a lot about business practice – but you know nothing about it.
You call this a lot? You talk a lot about me, but know nothing about it. Besides which, and aside from legalities, only people of a very specific cultural ilk (not to mention, in certain contexts, morons) imagine that repeated informal conversations and emails from the hiring authority are anything but ethically, again if not necessarily, legally binding.
Thanks though for your pointed and personal posts, they afforded quite an occasion for putting some of this down on keyboard. Generous eh?
Thanks too for the continued interest and input from other posters.