Jooma
5 Feb 2008
Genealogy / Has anyone taken Genealogy DNA tests? [87]
My family roots are from Lwow and Malopolska, I am R1a1, maternal HV*
My family roots are from Lwow and Malopolska, I am R1a1, maternal HV*
Jooma
14 Jan 2008
Jooma
28 Dec 2007
History / Jews...and their Polish experience [520]
Kalisher wrote:
Nothing is forgotten by our people. You should know that by now. Just like we don't forget what others have done to us, we don't forget what we have done.
Why should we forget murderous Jewish NKWD people who tried to exterminate Polish people.
You should apply the same measures to all murderers.
Kalisher wrote:
Nothing is forgotten by our people. You should know that by now. Just like we don't forget what others have done to us, we don't forget what we have done.
Why should we forget murderous Jewish NKWD people who tried to exterminate Polish people.
You should apply the same measures to all murderers.
Jooma
27 Dec 2007
History / Jews...and their Polish experience [520]
Sorry to touch you so deeply, but I am just quoting British MP Mr. O. King who said that Israel treatment of Palestinians reminds him of Nazi crimes against European Jews.
Sorry to touch you so deeply, but I am just quoting British MP Mr. O. King who said that Israel treatment of Palestinians reminds him of Nazi crimes against European Jews.
Jooma
27 Dec 2007
History / Jews...and their Polish experience [520]
Why then Israel didn't learn anything from the past and treats Palestinians like Nazis treated Jews?
Why then Israel didn't learn anything from the past and treats Palestinians like Nazis treated Jews?
Jooma
26 Dec 2007
History / Jews...and their Polish experience [520]
You are forgetting the role of Jews in the communists apparatus of oppression and extermination of Polish people after the WWII. Many ingrained opinions and feelings toward Jews steam from that period. My father was tortured by a Russian Jew in Zgorzelec prison because he was in AK. This guy was openly priding himself that he, a Jew, can kick and beat a Polish person.
You are forgetting the role of Jews in the communists apparatus of oppression and extermination of Polish people after the WWII. Many ingrained opinions and feelings toward Jews steam from that period. My father was tortured by a Russian Jew in Zgorzelec prison because he was in AK. This guy was openly priding himself that he, a Jew, can kick and beat a Polish person.
Jooma
25 Dec 2007
History / Jews...and their Polish experience [520]
Absolutely agree. The Srebrenica and the peace keepers in the Balkan war are the darkest moments in the European history. The only problems is that irresponsibility of EU concerning Kosovo can bring the whole repulsive thing back.
Absolutely agree. The Srebrenica and the peace keepers in the Balkan war are the darkest moments in the European history. The only problems is that irresponsibility of EU concerning Kosovo can bring the whole repulsive thing back.
Jooma
25 Dec 2007
History / Jews...and their Polish experience [520]
Jews were the occupying force in Lebanon and as such, according to the Geneva Convention, are responsible for the well being of the occupied civil population.
Your Jewish commission admits that Jewish army was responsible for not “protecting” Palestinians, therefore failing responsibilities assigned by the GC to the occupying force.
Failing these responsibilities resulted in deaths of 2000 innocent civilians.
No one went to jail for that - it was only 2000 Palestinians.
Just recently, a very similar Jewish commission approved use of cluster bombs against the civil population.
I think you Jews are your worst enemies.
Jews were the occupying force in Lebanon and as such, according to the Geneva Convention, are responsible for the well being of the occupied civil population.
Your Jewish commission admits that Jewish army was responsible for not “protecting” Palestinians, therefore failing responsibilities assigned by the GC to the occupying force.
Failing these responsibilities resulted in deaths of 2000 innocent civilians.
No one went to jail for that - it was only 2000 Palestinians.
Just recently, a very similar Jewish commission approved use of cluster bombs against the civil population.
I think you Jews are your worst enemies.
Jooma
25 Dec 2007
History / Jews...and their Polish experience [520]
If you want to continue please note that you are right: Lebanese Christians killed Palestinians under Jewish supervision:
On September 15, 1982, after the evacuation of PLO fighters from Beirut on the condition of international protection for the Palestinian and Lebanese civilians in the region, Sharon invaded Beirut. Ariel Sharon declaring that this was in order to dislodge 2000 Palestinian fighters remaining in the city. The task of purging the camps Sharon gave to the Phalange (Lebanese force armed by and closely allied with Israel since the onset of Lebanon’s civil war in 1975).
Sabra & Shatila: The slaughter in the camps at Sabra and Shatila took place between 6:00pm on September 16 and 8:00 am on September 18, 1982 in an area under the control of the Israeli army. Sharon’s troops, having held the camps under siege, allowed Phalangists to enter. Israeli searchlights illuminated the camps, while Israeli army personnel watched through binoculars as the death squads spread unchallenged through the camps. Whole families were murdered, many were raped and tortured before being killed. So many bodies were heaped into lorries and taken away, or buried in mass graves, that the exact toll will never be known, but Palestinian sources estimate at least 2000 people were killed.
These are historical facts being conveniently forgotten by your people.
If you want to continue please note that you are right: Lebanese Christians killed Palestinians under Jewish supervision:
On September 15, 1982, after the evacuation of PLO fighters from Beirut on the condition of international protection for the Palestinian and Lebanese civilians in the region, Sharon invaded Beirut. Ariel Sharon declaring that this was in order to dislodge 2000 Palestinian fighters remaining in the city. The task of purging the camps Sharon gave to the Phalange (Lebanese force armed by and closely allied with Israel since the onset of Lebanon’s civil war in 1975).
Sabra & Shatila: The slaughter in the camps at Sabra and Shatila took place between 6:00pm on September 16 and 8:00 am on September 18, 1982 in an area under the control of the Israeli army. Sharon’s troops, having held the camps under siege, allowed Phalangists to enter. Israeli searchlights illuminated the camps, while Israeli army personnel watched through binoculars as the death squads spread unchallenged through the camps. Whole families were murdered, many were raped and tortured before being killed. So many bodies were heaped into lorries and taken away, or buried in mass graves, that the exact toll will never be known, but Palestinian sources estimate at least 2000 people were killed.
These are historical facts being conveniently forgotten by your people.
Jooma
25 Dec 2007
History / Jews...and their Polish experience [520]
There is no point in discussing with you isn't it.
Why did we sent Milosovic to a trial then?
There is no point in discussing with you isn't it.
Why did we sent Milosovic to a trial then?
Jooma
25 Dec 2007
History / Ancient Polish History thread [180]
Look for the ancient slavonic, Sobotka (near Wroclaw) monuments. Much older than Biskupin. I have seen them years ago and I wonder if they are somehow protected.
Look for the ancient slavonic, Sobotka (near Wroclaw) monuments. Much older than Biskupin. I have seen them years ago and I wonder if they are somehow protected.
Jooma
25 Dec 2007
History / Jews...and their Polish experience [520]
What about Sharon involvement in Sabra-Shatilla Palestinian Refugee Camp massacre. It really makes you sick in the head. He was never tried for it. I wonder why?
What about Sharon involvement in Sabra-Shatilla Palestinian Refugee Camp massacre. It really makes you sick in the head. He was never tried for it. I wonder why?
Jooma
24 Dec 2007
History / Jews...and their Polish experience [520]
It is a sad story particularly if you know that Franco was a Christianised Jew.
It makes you think isn’t it?
It is a sad story particularly if you know that Franco was a Christianised Jew.
It makes you think isn’t it?
Jooma
24 Dec 2007
History / Jews...and their Polish experience [520]
I fully sympathise with you, but please do not look at the world through your perspective only.
There is about three millions of Palestinians who are denied access to their homes.
It is not Polish fault a Jew is denied access to his ancestral home in Poland. About 10 million Poles cannot get to their homes in what is now Ukraine and Lithuania.
I think that all Jews should unite and finally start to bark at the right tree.
I fully sympathise with you, but please do not look at the world through your perspective only.
There is about three millions of Palestinians who are denied access to their homes.
It is not Polish fault a Jew is denied access to his ancestral home in Poland. About 10 million Poles cannot get to their homes in what is now Ukraine and Lithuania.
I think that all Jews should unite and finally start to bark at the right tree.
Jooma
24 Dec 2007
Genealogy / Polish Schneiders from Lwow [6]
Yes, I am lookig for relatives or people who know more about Adam Schneider, born on 2 January 1900, married on 8th September 1923 to Julia Michalak, born on 26th January 1904.
Appreciate all help. Thanks.
Regards
Yes, I am lookig for relatives or people who know more about Adam Schneider, born on 2 January 1900, married on 8th September 1923 to Julia Michalak, born on 26th January 1904.
Appreciate all help. Thanks.
Regards
Jooma
23 Dec 2007
Jooma
22 Dec 2007
History / Chicago Public Radio on *Polish* concentration camps [62]
What about Guantanamo Bay, a good example for unlawful, ruthless, brutal and modern concentration camp.
We can discuss history until cows come home but please do not forget that we are making the history. Blaming Nazis and Stalin and allowing this monstrosity to be on our conscience is unforgivable. I believe HISTORY will judge us very harshly on that.
What about Guantanamo Bay, a good example for unlawful, ruthless, brutal and modern concentration camp.
We can discuss history until cows come home but please do not forget that we are making the history. Blaming Nazis and Stalin and allowing this monstrosity to be on our conscience is unforgivable. I believe HISTORY will judge us very harshly on that.
Jooma
22 Dec 2007
History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]
It is a long term policy of NATO and US to weaken Slavonic countries by any means possible, because they know that in the future those countries will be the one that can stand up against their hegemony in the world, you can buy them by joining EU or you can bomb them. Kosovo will be lost one way or another because they can bomb Serbs into the submission again. Roosevelt in Yalta did exactly the same, went to bed with the biggest murderer in the world and scarified Poland and half of the Europe hoping for Stalin gulags and finishing job Hitler couldn’t do it.
It is a long term policy of NATO and US to weaken Slavonic countries by any means possible, because they know that in the future those countries will be the one that can stand up against their hegemony in the world, you can buy them by joining EU or you can bomb them. Kosovo will be lost one way or another because they can bomb Serbs into the submission again. Roosevelt in Yalta did exactly the same, went to bed with the biggest murderer in the world and scarified Poland and half of the Europe hoping for Stalin gulags and finishing job Hitler couldn’t do it.
Jooma
21 Dec 2007
Work / "Ethnicity" form - Polish Europeans? [77]
Righto, I thought you are referring to indo European languages.
Righto, I thought you are referring to indo European languages.
Jooma
21 Dec 2007
Work / "Ethnicity" form - Polish Europeans? [77]
I couldn't agree more to the first part.
What I am saying is only a history that can be interpreted depending who is looking at it. What is the difference between European and an indo European? I have never met this distinction!
I couldn't agree more to the first part.
What I am saying is only a history that can be interpreted depending who is looking at it. What is the difference between European and an indo European? I have never met this distinction!
Jooma
21 Dec 2007
Work / "Ethnicity" form - Polish Europeans? [77]
DNA testing has revealed that present-day inhabitants of Britain are primarily descended from the Mesolithic (early stone age) or original inhabitants of the islands. Celts arrived to British Isles about 2,500 years ago from Asia Minor and mixed with the local inhabitants, who were related to the very first Europeans like Basque people. Do not forget that a that time England was a part of Europe because The "English Channel" did not exist.
Invasion of Romans and 500 years latter Normans, Norse, from Northern France did not change British genetics much but brought a bit of civilisation. Anglo-Saxons is a term used for southern Brits before the invasion of Normans. They arrived to England from northern Germany and what is today Denmark, before Romans did.
DNA testing has revealed that present-day inhabitants of Britain are primarily descended from the Mesolithic (early stone age) or original inhabitants of the islands. Celts arrived to British Isles about 2,500 years ago from Asia Minor and mixed with the local inhabitants, who were related to the very first Europeans like Basque people. Do not forget that a that time England was a part of Europe because The "English Channel" did not exist.
Invasion of Romans and 500 years latter Normans, Norse, from Northern France did not change British genetics much but brought a bit of civilisation. Anglo-Saxons is a term used for southern Brits before the invasion of Normans. They arrived to England from northern Germany and what is today Denmark, before Romans did.
Jooma
21 Dec 2007
Work / "Ethnicity" form - Polish Europeans? [77]
If you guys remove feelings, emotions and inferiority complexes and approach the matter in a more reasonable way, you will notice that the vast majority of Polish people are genetically pure Europeans.
On the mothers side (mtDNA) they belong to the predominantly European haplogroups H, V, HV and HV*. These haplogroups are spread from Atlantic to Ural and from Mediterranean to North Sea.
On the fathers side majority of Polish men belong to haplogroups R1a or R1a1, R1a is at least 25,000 years old so these people were in Europe for at least that time and I suspect much longer.
These haplogroups are dominant through out the central and northern Europe from Croatia through Hungary, Ukraine, Russian Euro-Asia, Southern Germany, Poland, Southern Denmark, Western Norway and Sweden, Northern England, Scotland and Iceland.
Having that in mind Polish people are the core of Europeans.
Please note that the current “Polish” situation is a result of Roosevelt’s betrayal of Polish national interests in Yalta.
If you guys remove feelings, emotions and inferiority complexes and approach the matter in a more reasonable way, you will notice that the vast majority of Polish people are genetically pure Europeans.
On the mothers side (mtDNA) they belong to the predominantly European haplogroups H, V, HV and HV*. These haplogroups are spread from Atlantic to Ural and from Mediterranean to North Sea.
On the fathers side majority of Polish men belong to haplogroups R1a or R1a1, R1a is at least 25,000 years old so these people were in Europe for at least that time and I suspect much longer.
These haplogroups are dominant through out the central and northern Europe from Croatia through Hungary, Ukraine, Russian Euro-Asia, Southern Germany, Poland, Southern Denmark, Western Norway and Sweden, Northern England, Scotland and Iceland.
Having that in mind Polish people are the core of Europeans.
Please note that the current “Polish” situation is a result of Roosevelt’s betrayal of Polish national interests in Yalta.