Posts by Dooday

Dooday

10 Dec 2007

Love / Polish-Islam Relationship Union [450]

What a horrible discussion this thread turned to. But yeah, you guys are right. Muslims are insane. You never hear about Christians rallying against other religions, telling other they will go to hell, God hates fags, burning down abortion clinics, using religion to justify something horrible etc etc. Its those crazy Muslims!! ALWAYS.

And thank you, Dice. I do live in Canada but I've considered moving to Poland to live with my aging grandmother. I have a super Catholic Polish family but they were extremely supportive and encouraging. Surprising really. Like I said before, I was brought up Catholic but I never cared for it. I was simply interested in Islam but the more I read, the more I found it to be the path I wanted to follow. There is no point in explaining that, however. Seeing some of the comments, I suppose its safe to say that my family's reaction is rare. I should've just gathered that when she went to a Polish deli here and the shop keepers were trash talking her in Polish. Unfortunately she understands some Polish so she was quite hurt.

I don't think I would want to take my sweet wife to a place where our religion and her race are looked down upon. And I certainly don't think I will be posting here. Thanks to all who were positive. Have a lovely day, everyone.

Dooday

9 Dec 2007

Life / Polish Parents are controlling [58]

My family and I moved to canada when I was 5 or 6. Growing up my mom was so controlling. she was always so concerned about what other Polish families thought so when visiting I had to wear really stupid clothes and comb over my hair really lame. She never allowed anything at all. I was just shut in completely. growing up I really hated her and wanted to run away all the time.

Dooday

9 Dec 2007

Genealogy / strange Polish mixes [116]

I have seen Polish-Arab mix. My wife is Pakistani-Persian. Quite excited to see our offspring.

Dooday

9 Dec 2007

Love / Polish-Islam Relationship Union [450]

My point is a bit scattered, and I apologize. I grew up Catholic, went to a Catholic school, and became interested in Islam as I got older. I decided to convert because I felt like it was right for me. I felt like I could follow the religion for what it is and not some bastardized Taliban version. Reading comments that basically state that one should be ashamed of being Polish and converting to Islam are quite appalling to me seeing how there is Islamic presence in our country and not just Tatars, but native converts as well. I'm not saying Islam is right for everyone or that fellow Europeans should come around and convert. What I was saying was that historically Poles and Muslims have had peaceful ties and the cultural impact can be seen in little things here and there. The Tatars were offered refuge, religious freedom, and high status. They were also allowed to marry Polish women of Catholic faith. If they were persecuted against, there wouldn't, after 600 years still exist in Poland. It was because of the good treatment that Polish kings gave to them that they stayed and became an asset to our country. In more recent times, as I stated earlier, the Polish migration to Iran during WW2 shows there hasn't been an anti-Islam viewpoint. My post was mainly out of shock at the close minded generalizations, and while I understand why some facets of Islam were being attacked.. lets say masturbation. If I am correct, doesn't Christianity forbid that as well? I can point out more white males who are disrespectful to their women than Muslim males then why make it look like its the "Islamic thing to do"?

Its all a bit immature. One can point out many things about each and every faith and culture they don't find agreeable but attacking others for deciding its the one for them is going a bit too far, I think.

Dooday

8 Dec 2007

Love / Polish-Islam Relationship Union [450]

Hi. I'm a Polish male who converted to Islam. I'm a bit appalled at the anti-Islam/Middle Eastern/Asian attitude here but I just wanted to give my opinion on Polish-Muslim relationships.

I am married to a Muslim Pakistani girl. She is absolutely wonderful. She is traditional but we have much in common. We both are very family oriented and realize how important it is for a well functioning society. My wife was a virgin when we married. she does not drink or do drugs. She respects my wishes and I could not be happier.

After immersing myself in her culture and her in mine we realize there are so many similarities. Many Poles here have eaten chałwa which is a Middle Eastern dish (halva). There are other Middle Eastern influences in Polish cooking but I won't get into that. What I will get into is that Muslim-Polish relations have always been good. Iran and Poland were very close allies dating back to the 16th century. Polish students went to Iran to study and Persian students came to Poland. A great number of Polish citizens sought asylum in Iran during the World War 2, and it was the biggest migration of Europeans to Iran ever. Then there are the Tartars who are still present in Poland since 14th century. There were also mass conversions to Islam during Polish-Turkish wars. There are many mosques in Poland such as in Poznań, Gdańsk and Warsaw. Some are in primarily Tartar settlements such as in Bohoniki.

I didn't mean to type this much but I was getting so annoyed with the anti-Islamic sentiment and generalizations. Giving examples of fundamentalist Islam such as in Afghanistan is really unfair. Christian fundamentalists who don't allow their women to leave the house, wear pants, date, etc, also exist. Everyone has different moral values. Each and every individual is different. No one can say if Polish women like Black men or Indian men or anything. Some do. Some don't. Same with men. I have seen a lot of Polish women marry Muslim men and they are happy. I haven't seen many Polish men marry Muslim girls but I've known some other white males to have done so. No one can predict if it will a successful union. You can't even predict that with a Polish couple. Its not just Muslims who treat their women bad. I know many non Muslim white males who are abusive and controlling. Generalizing this is ridiculous.

I do apologize for typing this much. I am sure no one will read it but I hope some of you do.

For further reference about Islam in Poland:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Poland

al-islam.org.pl/english.htm

cais-soas.com/CAIS/Culture/Iranian_culture_poland.htm