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southern   
30 May 2007
News / Why are foreigners coming to Poland and from which countries? [119]

and there are members of all races at all points in the curve. Even if you assume a low IQ of one SD for blacks that still means that at least 30 percent of Blacks are more intelligent than the average white person. The irony is that those who fail to understand this basic fact are more likely than not to mentally deficient

Nonsense.Blacks have an average IQ of 80 or even lower.Poles stand at 106.
This means that only about 10% of blacks have a higher IQ than 106,that is the average Pole.
It also means that the average black has borderline IQ.About 25% of them have IQ below 69,which is the limit for mental retardation.
What you write is true if you happen to belong to the elite,the 5% of blacks with the highest IQ,that would be above 120,which guarantees access to high ranking universities.

However the polish who have this IQ(over 120) represent probably a 20% of the polish population,since their average stands at 106.
What are you trying to prove?That blacks are highly selected and blacks in european countries represent the top 5% of all blacks in terms of IQ?

Every comparison between blacks and whites in IQ is in favour of the latter.
If Poles and blacks competed for the same places in university,the Poles would gain about 90% while the blacks only 10%.
If Poles competed with english(who have an average IQ of 103),they would gain 55-60% of positions while the english the rest 40-45%.And in high rank universities the percentage of Poles would be higher.

Only some asian races have higher IQ than europeans and that is why the british complain that asian students take the best places in university(due to their better grades) and want the english state to protect them(eg raising the base of entrance for Asians).

On the opposite side,some colleges and universities accept blacks despite their lower scores because of equality policy.
southern   
30 May 2007
News / Why are foreigners coming to Poland and from which countries? [119]

well, I have been studying with them and I haven't noticed any differance at all. You have been talking a lot of rubbish,

I don't think it is, nothing else has been invented yet. I am counting on southern here.

Miranda you have no idea about statistics.Yes colleges and universities know them very well and take them into account on admission policies.Have you any idea what would happen if people would be accpepted based on their performance on tests without taking gender into account?Now over 60% of university graduates would be women.

So the college administrators looking at society expectations accept men with lower scores and do not admit females with higher scores.This is equality policy.

Did you see what happened in France?After the violent riots,Shiraq passed legislation that members of minortity arabs will be admitted to Grand Ecoles without adequate scores,that is society puts a lot of pressure to diminish the curve created by IQ.If society did not intervene,you would be surprised.Heavy conflicts would arise.

doubt there are hundred of such studies all with differing results. Key question is whether you accept IQ as a fair test of intelligence or not.

The research you mentioned does not in fact disagree with the numbers I gave.It simply puts every country's population IQ 5 points lower.Look at african states.By this research the average has an IQ of 75 which means 50% of population are borderline retarded.I gave a more favourable average IQ to african states.

Your objection has no point.I was based on the recent research by a british university teacher who attributed success of GB in 100 year war to the 5 points difference in IQ between english and french.He found that Germans have the highest IQ and Poles are the third in rank.

The black guy played with the numbers and the statistics thinking that nobody would understand what he did to oppose him.Unfortunately for him,there are people in the forum familiar with this kind of stuff.
southern   
30 May 2007
News / Why are foreigners coming to Poland and from which countries? [119]

As for the admittion process - I don't recall that "race" has even been a part of the appliction process. Admittion is usually done on paper or online, so there is hardly any room for discrimination.
PS. nobody gets a break because of their race of luck of language skills. There is no mercy - everybody has to perform according to university standards. It is a very fair system in my opinion.

I do not know the situation in Canada,if there is a fair percentage of black population.
I talk mainly about USA.What we discuss here is also hot pedagogic topic there.Americans take statistics very much into consideration and that is why they avoid problems like the ones France(with lower minority percentages) faced.

Maybe I will enter the discussion about educational systems and their evaluation but this is not the topic here.

why would yu say that? Statistics is quite easy to understand. My point is that statistics doesn't explain everything.

The opposite.Statistics are quite difficult to understand.Especially high level statistics.It has been proved that understanding of statistics correlates linear with a person's IQ.

It is mainly stuff of the latest century and needs maths to grasp it.
From your answers it seems you do not have a concept of simple statistics items like sample size.

exactly - I found it refreshing and to the point. I very much enjoyed it.

What was refreshing?This guy tried to manipulate numbers and mathematical methods.
You call this right?Right to manipulation?
O.K.
southern   
30 May 2007
News / Why are foreigners coming to Poland and from which countries? [119]

prove it.

I already proved it.The 30% of blacks having IQ above polish people is fake.He made it up making bad use of standard deviation.
Also what he wrote about chances of highly educated in Poland is contrived but I will write about that maybe later.

I can say the same about your post.

My post is not manipulative cause I used statistical,scientific data.He used fallacies.Totally different way to prove sth.

Oh, OK then, therefore mY IQ is lower than yours then, accoding to your ideology.

Wrong.It is not my ideology.Americans have already measured all this.What I say is that you have not been taught statistics which americans in university learn and I am surprised how good they use them.
southern   
30 May 2007
News / Why are foreigners coming to Poland and from which countries? [119]

Precisly. Every country has its own struggle with minorieties and their fair treatment. Next time specify what country you are talking about and there will be less misunderstanding on my part.

I do not know the educational system in Canada.Is it closer to french or to english model?French are considered to be a minority?I have read it is closer to european educational system than the american,I do not know.
southern   
30 May 2007
News / Why are foreigners coming to Poland and from which countries? [119]

prof has much more freedom when it comes to the curriculum of a particular subject, 2 profs teaching the same subject can teach it differently.
At my university people usually go for the professor moreso that for the subject, since some of them are better and more interesting than others, so there is a lot of flexibility, which I didn't find in Poland at all.

This is the same as in USA.Is student-professor relation more loose or formal?I mean can the students meet their prof. outside classroom etc?Can they ask questions interrupting the lecture?

Exams are based on multiple choice system or on memorization of pages?is there one book to be examed or are there multiple books and you choose?

In Canada universities are state owned,not true?
southern   
30 May 2007
News / Why are foreigners coming to Poland and from which countries? [119]

haha. . i was about to start quarelin with u, but i checked thta site about IQ researches. .. . so it s true!! blacks are less inteligent:P that s why i didnt fit with my nigerian bf . . . . (nigeria-67, poland-99. hahh;D:D:D: )

There is some truth in that.Relationships between people of similar educational level are more likely to be stable.
southern   
30 May 2007
Love / Polish attitude towards sex [194]

polishmarriage.org/polishsex.html

Do you agree unicornes with the refered information?
southern   
30 May 2007
History / What has Poland contributed to the Western civilisation? [69]

I guess the Particle Physicists are getting excited these days with the Hadron Collider coming on stream in Cern. Now that is a scary subject and way beyond me. My brother in law is big time into particles and loses me before the first course has finished. And to think I used to teach him maths.

There is always this difference between mathematicians who prefer abstract analysis and empirical physicians who are based on experiment results.Now most experiments are conducted in Europe.Americans seem to have dropped the funds.

But Poles are rather good in abstract models.

I would say that the greatest contribution of Germany to civilization is the Bratwurst boy.
southern   
30 May 2007
History / What has Poland contributed to the Western civilisation? [69]

I have noticed that americans like it.You have to be american.

And Bratwurst boy was funny.When he said that Lederhosen are popular in Germany but eating a man is not so common.Sometimes Germans rock.
southern   
30 May 2007
History / What has Poland contributed to the Western civilisation? [69]

Adilksi are you serious?200.000 Ottomans outside Vienna came according to you to inform Austrians about the civilizing benefits of Islam culture?
Or did they come as tourists to admire Vienna?
southern   
30 May 2007
History / What has Poland contributed to the Western civilisation? [69]

carrots.. was up doc???????????

You do not know the whip and the carrot?

[quote=adilski] aint got a clue about what your on about..

It is simple.In 1683 Turks tried to capture Vienna.They started the siege and few days before Vienna would fell,a brand new polish army appeared.

Then sth happened to the Turks.

For the Austrians the turkish army was another attraction that was lost.
southern   
1 Jun 2007
News / Darwins theory of Evolution in Polish schools [59]

Wasn't adam and eve "created" 4004 BC (accurate?)? What's the churches answer to stuff like this?

That was actually the date,Oktober 4004 BC,that a famous theologist calculated that Creation took place.He made this estimation in the 18th cetury and church accepted it.

In 19th century the catholic church repeated the same mistake by rejecting Darwin's theory.By interpreting holy books as containing information about physical laws,catholic church puts religious belief under control of observation and experiment as it happens with science,that is it expresses hypothses which can or cannot be proven(unlike the God hypothesis) and so after science rejects what church accepted as true,people start to doubt the truth of religion in general.It is a great mistake of catholic church,it is surprising how such intelligent people as those in catholic church made such a mistake.

And it is very difficult to change direction because according to catholic church the Pope is always right.
So whatever he says is true a priori.This means that if the current Pope accepts evolution theory,the catholic church will face a serious contradiction and a doubt of the principle that what the Pope says is always true.Because in this case there will be two Popes saying the opposite(a lot of work for catholic theologues).
southern   
2 Jun 2007
History / Katyn- forgiven and forgotten? [111]

The Poles lost their opportunity at August 1944 with the Warsaw revolution.If they managed to throw Germans out,they would maybe join the western world.It was still an open issue til Jalta conference in 1945 where Poland should belong.However Poles heavily depended on soviet interventinon,they waited til the soviets were too close so the german forces would have weakened out and started to retreat,to liberate Warsaw.

When the germans gathered a lot of forces and begann extinguishing revolution,the Poles asked for soviet help which the Russians of course refused.Both Hitler and Stalin knew what was played in Warsaw and had taken their decisions(to press the West).

Katyn was dicovered accidentally be Germans and Goebels organized a well orchestrated campaign for its exploitence.He gathered specialists from all over the world to analyze the findings and testify the identity of corpses.Germans hoped to bring Soviets into a difficult position and cause conflicts between the allies which may drive them to breakdown of their relations and maybe an end of the war in the west.

Soviets understood all this and simply forbid the english and americans any reference to Katyn threatening to stop pressure and let the germans gather forces on the western front where english and americans were under heavy pressure.Allies complied and accepted the official soviet explanation that the polish officers in Katyn were murdered by Germans.

When Krutsev begann accusing Stalin atrocities after the 20th congress of the communist party,Katyn came to surface again.In this case as in many of Stalin's murders there are few remnants and the calculations of victims are always open to upper limits.

I think most russians still regard Katyn a crime commited by germans.

Why did the Soviets proceed to this mass execution?It had to do with SU defense plans in view of an imminent german attack.The same reason why soviets occupied baltic states and attacked Finland in 1939.They wanted a good balance of forces,a way to delay german attacks.They feared that in case germans invaded Soviet Union the righteous officers of the polish army would join them and be very influencial in provinces like Belarus,who knows?Or they wanted to smooth the ground for a future communist Poland with no army resistance possible?We will never know the archives,what were the motives and the goals of the soviet officers who decided the massacre
southern   
2 Jun 2007
History / Katyn- forgiven and forgotten? [111]

He was the one who discovered and made Katyn worldwide known.He knew what it meant.It is part of his legacy.
southern   
2 Jun 2007
History / Katyn- forgiven and forgotten? [111]

ous genocide by 'Ukrainian' bandits associated with the Germans of some 500.000 Poles - including a large number of small children - in the Eastern Borderlands in the 1940's

They are called Banderas.They are national heroes now in West Ukraine.
southern   
2 Jun 2007
History / Katyn- forgiven and forgotten? [111]

I think Puzzler asks.Should Poles remember Katyn or not?
Daffy answers yes in order to avoid atrocities.
O.K. but there is a small problem.The atrocities in Katyn were not made by Poles.
southern   
2 Jun 2007
History / Katyn- forgiven and forgotten? [111]

do not understand the Polish psyche.

The Russians always claim there is a russian soul.I think there is time to recognize there is polish soul too.
southern   
2 Jun 2007
History / Katyn- forgiven and forgotten? [111]

e Russians show peace and goodwill to their Polish Allies- by herding our Officers to a forrest, stuffing their mouths with sawdust, covering their

Wrong.The Russians were never allies with Poles.Russians were allies only with British and Americans on the western front and with noone on the asian,pacific front.
southern   
3 Jun 2007
History / Katyn- forgiven and forgotten? [111]

a Western ally, in turn becoming Poland's ally. The Russians declared amnesty for the Poles in Russia .
Amittedly the Russo-Polish alliance was hostile and created angst in the Western Alliance.

Russians were allies to whom?To the exiled polish government in London and the army of Bor Komarovski or to the communist groups of Poland?

Soviets supported in every case the communist parties and not the national,righteous governments(see Yugoslavia,etc).
southern   
4 Jun 2007
Life / What makes you proud to be Polish? [150]

What, what? Strong personality? Well, mr. Putin has strong personality and Yuschenko just a clown....

Yanukovic is a tiger?

Ha....in that time, may be, may be....well, but we are a good pupils...Swedes and Germas know that....ah, French too

Tsetsenya had no chance to teach..
southern   
4 Jun 2007
Life / What makes you proud to be Polish? [150]

Well Poland is garding the gate to Europe to not get invaded by beasts from russia.

Not exactly.Poland is vulnerable to tank attacks.There are no mountains and few natural obstacles.It may delay a russian attack but not stop it.
southern   
4 Jun 2007
Life / What makes you proud to be Polish? [150]

Nothing moves in Chechenya.Ah,this imperialist,war addict Putin.

They forecast russian weapons will appear in the Middle East.

No, we are too big and good-natured....
Poor, poor ukraine (Little Russia) I think that it's days are numbered....
But our politics are neutral, they are just watching with slight astonishment....

No sympathy for the poor khokhli.