Love / Are Polish girls charity workers? [132]


You are a 'fugglicist'. LOL

At least southern does it with humour.

Love / Are Polish girls charity workers? [132]


What a comedian you are. Do me favour...save your money...50p is all we need to get a leg over your girlfriend or wife...beer goggles will definitely come in handy so I'd appreciate it if you could throw in a few Lechs for free :))

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Have you contributed anything to the discussion besides that nugget of irresistible wit? Can you do anything else besides jump on the 'I love everything Polish' bandwagon? What have you to do with Poland anyway? You have a Polish girlfriend (gosh, that was difficult) and now you're kissing up to the culture? Shame on you.

Love / Are Polish girls charity workers? [132]


That is unfortunate, but the generalisation is justified because it happens so often. Of course, it doesn't apply to every member of the female population of Poland, that is obvious. If you read my posts, you'll find that I have been careful to qualify my statements with 'Polish girls tend to', 'many Polish girls', 'a lot of Polish girls', etc.

Love / Are Polish girls charity workers? [132]


Never said it did.


If he's a cool, genuine, decent guy, 'ugly' or not, I'd say she made a good choice. But if he has a major esteem issue then you have to question the choice. Or if he's boring, or too big-headed (I've seen that too), or very shallow and playing the girl, etc. It's nice that everyone has a chance, but some don't deserve it.

Love / Are Polish girls charity workers? [132]


I'm not dropping it because of anything you've said. I really do not approve of the dating choices that many Polish girls make, and I have observed more of them than you. I just don't want to dwell on it anymore. It was funny at first 'cause it seemed that no one else was talking about it and I felt there was too much kissing up and fairy tales. Ok, the language is a bit colourful but hey, that's satire.

It went a bit far, but again there is a pattern and I do not believe the crap guy thing is a matter of opinion: the inferiority complex exists, and many Polish girls will admit that themselves. You seem to be a little bit naive to deny that there's any grain of truth to it at all...but anyway...to decent Polish girls it's a bit unfair perhaps, to the crap-guy lovers (LOL), well perhaps they'll wake up a bit..

PS Shelley _____________. hmm....fill in the blanks :)

Love / Are Polish girls charity workers? [132]


Yep, I know. Guilty as charged.


Look, I can see why you and others would say that. But, if you look around you there is something there. I mean, even the Polish girls on this forum aren't exactly denying it. But I think I've had my 'fun' and may drop the topic. Apologies to all the decent Polish girls out there.

PS Shelley, you are still a racist fuggly.

Love / Are Polish girls charity workers? [132]


You have a point there. Good observation. About 8 years ago many Polish girls used to talk like the Ukrainians you are describing. I remember being in a club with an American friend of mine. We were at the bar and a hot girl said to him "You are very handsome" and then kissed him and said "I want chicken McNuggets". That would not happen now.


Because it's peculiar and funny that people notice the same thing. And the topic clearly more edgy and interesting than 'Polish girls are the most beautiful in the world'. Ok, it's negative, which is unfortunate..but isn't the slogan of this forum "Poland: the good and the bad"?

And believe it or not...I like Polish girls. I don't approve of a lot their choices, but there are positive sides too. It's just not as fun to discuss them.

Love / Are Polish girls charity workers? [132]


Well then explain yourself. Why is it wrong? What are your observations? Polish girls don't tend to go out with crap guys? (I just couldn't resist using that phrase again LOL)

Or do you think sticking up for Polish girls is going to get you laid somehow? (I have news for you...well, hmm... better not)

PS Shelley, you are a racist redneck fuggly...if your nasty racist posts about 'darkies' etc are allowed to stay and the mods delete this comment of mine, then something is seriously wrong with this world.

Love / Are Polish girls charity workers? [132]


No I don't think they would.


Never said that. I just said I get it more than some, less than others. I was being honest. I don't go for every piece of meat on the market.


A resident desperate guy. Even better!

Love / Are Polish girls charity workers? [132]


'A bit'? haha Who are you kissing up to now?
Btw, a person either has standards or they don't.


Wrong


wrong again


Well, I can think of better things for you to do with your time, e.g. go out and get laid, they're plenty of desperate men out there...

Love / Are Polish girls charity workers? [132]


That sounds about right. Agree 100%.


Do you PMS every few days or what? I just take anything you say seriously woman. In one post you're sticking up for Polish women, in the next you're putting them down big time. Be consistent...

Love / Are Polish girls charity workers? [132]

I have discussed that enough. I actually borrowed that phrase from another poster - I found it delightfully succint.

Love / How to gain the attention of a Polish man? [71]

Lennoxthecat

An English girl in England is a good catch for a Polish guy, I imagine. So unless there's something wrong with you, you shouldn't have any problems.

Love / Are Polish girls charity workers? [132]

We are talking about men in general. Some Polish guys are cool, some are very ordinary. But that's in Poland. Outside Poland, southern, Luke and others, including even Shelley, would say that far too many of them go for 'crap guys' from all kinds of places.

Love / Are Polish girls charity workers? [132]


I never said it was a bad thing that they are not into succesful guys (in materialstic terms). I have always said that it can be a good thing. But I do not believe that they 'see beyond' anything. I wasn't saying that they should only go for successful, wealthy guys. Hell no. There are plenty of cool guys who aren't flashy. I'm just trying to figure out why many of them make the strange choices that they make, like dating guys that their less-attractive western counterparts wouldn't touch.

Love / Are Polish girls charity workers? [132]


This is where our communication ends.

Love / Are Polish girls charity workers? [132]


I've had similar experiences. A girl I once had a thing with told me that she didn't like me at first because she thought I was too sure of myself, but later she realised that I had 'insecurities' and wasn't such a confident person....that was when she started to become attracted to me.

After reading that comment of yours I stopped two girls in Krakow today and did like you did, pretended to be shy. I even told one girl that my Polish was worse than usual because I'm very shy around pretty girls. Well...you seem to be right. They were both very friendly - got one number (from the hotter one), the other told me she had a boyfriend but was friendly nevertheless.


It is not about looks - not for me. I accept that some girls will not find me good-looking while others will. It's about the whole package, including humour, lack of neediness, independence, uniqueness, ambition, coolness, etc. Of course a low value guy is going to be 'caring' and 'affectionate' with a high value girl.

As for your statements on 'love', there is a difference between love and attachment/dependency. A low value guy in a relationship with a higher value girl is obviously going to be attached - his self-esteem depends on it - without the girl he's gonna feel like a loser/nobody again. IMO, 'true love' can only exist between two people of equal self-worth.

Love / Are Polish girls charity workers? [132]


Ha ha..'crap guys'. Delightfully diplomatic. But it's not like those girls can't do better. That's the weird thing. Do they not see that? Or do they fail to recognise differences? Or do they feel more comfortable that way? Anyway, perhaps it's pointless trying to figure out women..they can't even figure themselves out it seems.

Love / Are Polish girls charity workers? [132]


Hmm...that would explain my successes then.

Funnily enough, as I write in a pub in Krakow, I just witnessed a foreign guy getting picked up by a particularly bold Polish girl. A soft, unsure looking guy. She seemed to have a nose for such a guy and it looked as though she was enjoying being in control of the situation. Hmm....I think a survey needs to be carried out in Poland...a questionnaire designed to get to the truth...that would be interesting :)

And on an unrelated topic...why do hot girls visit the toilet more often than less attractive girls? There're two girls sitting nearby...the hotter one is off every five minutes.

Love / Are Polish girls charity workers? [132]

He has already declared himself to be tall in another thread.

Love / Are Polish girls charity workers? [132]


a cute one too ;)


just beat you to it :)


According to the theory of bad selection, that would get him a lot of girls.

Love / Are Polish girls charity workers? [132]


If I get a satisfactory explanation straight from the horse's mouth, I officially declare that I will not post on the subject anymore :)


Appreciate the contribution, but I would say that being American and therefore influenced by American culture you probably don't belong to the category of girls we are talking about.

Love / Are Polish girls charity workers? [132]

Ok, I think the language of these threads is getting a bit harsh :) and this dead horse has been flogged...but...

Can you Polish girls just give us an explanation...straight from the horse's mouth...dispel our confusion and these threads will stop:

What is going on in your minds?....why do so many Polish girls go out with ordinary (I'm talking about the whole package here) or below ordinary guys when they can clearly do much better and have opportunities to do better? Do you prefer such guys? Do you believe better quality guys are out of your reach or can't be trusted? Are you doing 'charity work' as Luke says....into 'mercy dates' (credit Beckski..LOL)? Do you even see differences?

I am asking these questions out of curiosity, not bitterness. I am genuinely curious and I am entitled to be so. I don't even think it's always such a bad thing, you can even argue that it's a good thing for balance and harmony. I'd just like to comprehend it. So, do any of the theories ring true?

I am not in doubt about the observations because if so many guys notice the same thing, there must be something to it. Choose to believe that you don't belong to this category of girls, fine. But coming from the same culture you must have a clue of what's going on.

Thanking you in advance :)

Love / Are Polish girls charity workers? [132]

Charity workers implies that girls recognise those who are 'needy' and 'destitute'. I don't think that's what going on in their heads when they're in a mis-match relationship. I've looked those girls in the eye, and I do not believe they are awake. Or are they?

Love / Polish Girls Reputation [231]


Again, you are missing the point. I repeat: not all guys are that desperate, but in every club there are a least a few of them. The example was meant to illustrate how easy it is for any girl to get laid, so if even an unattractive girl can get laid with a good-looking guy, then it's a bit shameful that a good looking girl ends up going for an unappealing guy.

In any case, you might be surprised to know that slightly unattractive girls can be more difficult to pick up than attractive girls. There are many reasons for this. Mostly, I think they get more attention from desperate guys who don't have the courage to go for hotter girls and they are aware of this and it makes them feel low.


You can imagine the damage it does to the ego when an average-looking girl from Poland (where girls are supposed to be 'easy' and where most men are very ordinary looking) turns down a handsome, educated foreign guy....then for the foreigner to see the same girl later with a very ordinary-looking guy...that's a night destroyer for many guys, and the bad feeling can last well into the next day :) I won't deny I haven't been there before...and it's one reason why I started approaching much hotter girls than I used to (sorry, average girls :))

Love / Polish Girls Reputation [231]


I didn't say all guys would do that. I certainly wouldn't. I was trying to make the point that it is very easy for girls to score so they should be more selective and wait for a decent guy instead of going for the first loser that tries to pick them up.

Love / Polish Girls Reputation [231]


Well, all guys are easy really given the opportunity. But some have higher standards than others. Girls get called 'easy' because it's much easier for them to get laid. Even a dog can easily get laid with a reasonably attractive guy in a night club without trying.

As I explained above, I don't always agree with the term 'easy', because it implies we are the ones chasing the 'reluctant' prey. I like to think if a girl sleeps with me, it's a mutual thing - e.g. her looks turned me on, my charm turned her on.


Point taken - in many cases western guys moan about Polish girls because they expect them to put out easily, and when they don't and instead give it out to some tool instead (I mean a guy who is v low on western girls' dating preferences) , it's a blow to the ego. It's amazing the ego damage that some of these simple Polish village girls can unwittingly do - it's quite funny thinking about it.

Love / Polish Girls Reputation [231]


Justysia, I don't think any guys moan about girls being easy. We like easy. We 'moan' when the girls are being easy with other guys ;), especially if, as in the case with many Polish girls, those other guys are often totally undeserving.

To be honest, if a girl sleeps with me very early on, and there was chemistry between us and she was totally in control and didn't have any hang-ups about it, I never feel that she is 'easy'. It just feels natural, a mutual pursuit of pleasure. But when a girl comes out with stuff like "I am not an easy girl", "I don't want you to think I'm easy", etc. then she screws up the dynamic and puts me in the position of 'the pursuer' and her 'the prey'. In that context, she becomes 'easy', whether it takes 2, 3 or 5 dates, it doesn't matter - she'll still be 'easy' even after a few months. I'd much rather be the first situtation obviously.

Love / Polish men vs German men: Who is hotter? [513]

Many of those girls have one permanent boyfriend, who is usually in love with them, and they call him their 'boyfriend'. Meanwhile other guys may come and go, some stay longer than others, but they like the security of having this one a**-kisser who they can rely on to be waiting at home for them. I've seen it and I've heard the stories. These 'official boyfriends' might get suspicious from time to time, but they naively remain faithful and will never leave as they are too afraid of losing the girl. And girls who play this game know this full well.

Guys can play the same game of course, but I believe the mathematics works in the girls' favour, somehow.

Love / Polish men vs German men: Who is hotter? [513]


Well, I believe that not every Polish girl has more than one boyfriend, many do, but many of those girls are abroad and shag foreign guys, and some polish guys are left out of the equation (don't have girlfriends).